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29 August 2013
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He's playing in G nowadays!

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30 August 2013
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Nope. The original song was in A. Unplugged was in G, and he's still playing it in that key. I don't know when he made the switch, but he played it in G on Rockshow (1976), so my guess is it's been that way ever since he's played it live.

Basic chords (after the intro):

Intro: Em, C, D
Verse: G, Em, C, D, G
Chorus: D, C, G, C, G

Transpose up a tone for the version on Help!

Intro: F#m, D, E
Verse: A, F#m, D, E, A
Chorus: E, D, A, D, A

Admittedly, I'm not very good at discerning what guitarists are playing by looking at them (and even more so when it's a bit distant from the camera).

G and C can look similar, but the best way is to use your ears and play along.

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30 August 2013
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And I just checked the 1976 live version from Paul's "Wings Over America" tour (I was there!) and it's also in G.  I re-checked the original and it's in A.  I wonder why Paul decided early on to change the key?

I also notice that the original Beatles recorded version seems to be a little off-key.  I.e., my guitar sounded perfectly fine playing along with the 1976 video, with the 1991 video, and with the 2013 video -- but suddenly when I try to play along with the original recording (I tried three different videos to make sure), I have to slightly loosen my strings; not all the way down to the key of G#, but about an increment halfway there.

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31 August 2013
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Funny Paper said
And I just checked the 1976 live version from Paul's "
Wings Over America" tour (I was there!) and it's also in G.  I re-checked the original and it's in A.  I wonder why Paul decided early on to change the key?

I also notice that the original Beatles recorded version seems to be a little off-key.  I.e., my guitar sounded perfectly fine playing along with the 1976 video, with the 1991 video, and with the 2013 video -- but suddenly when I try to play along with the original recording (I tried three different videos to make sure), I have to slightly loosen my strings; not all the way down to the key of G#, but about an increment halfway there.

I tried to play Blackbird as well on the guitar with the recording, it doesn't just as right. I don't know if it's my guitar or if it's the recording.

13 November 2013
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With regard to the playing along issues, the tracks were probably varispeeded up slightly to brighten the vocals on record.

I would imagine the original I've Just Seen A Face on Help! was recorded using the same chords he currently uses (ie. built round the basic G major), but capoed at the second fret to A (his guitar was already capoed at the second fret for Yesterday on that day, if I recall correctly), and he'll just have left the capo off so as to reach the high notes more easily when he does it live.

14 November 2013
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vectisfabber said
With regard to the playing along issues, the tracks were probably varispeeded up slightly to brighten the vocals on record.

I would imagine the original I've Just Seen A Face on Help! was recorded using the same chords he currently uses (ie. built round the basic G major), but capoed at the second fret to A (his guitar was already capoed at the second fret for Yesterday on that day, if I recall correctly), and he'll just have left the capo off so as to reach the high notes more easily when he does it live.

I hate these things that make me strain my brain (like trying to figure out if the Millennium started on Jan 1 2000, or Jan 1 2001).  Okay, if one plays a song in G without a capo, then capoes the 2nd fret and plays it in A, which is higher and which is lower, or are they both the same?  Let's see:

When I play the A chord with my capo on the 2nd fret, then I take off the capo, I have to play the B chord to get the same chord.  So without the capo, if I play the same song I played with the capo on in A, but finger it in G with the G chord, I would be transposing the key of the song down two whole steps.  We are still left with the mystery of why Paul did that.

Did I err somehow here...?

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27 November 2013
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No you're right, but I suspect you're thinking yourself wrong.

Play an A shape capoed at the 2nd fret, and what you are actually playing is a B major. Take the capo off, and you have to play a B on open tuning ie. barreing with your index finger to take the place of the capo. If you play an A shape withOUT the capo, you're playing, er, A ie. you are correct, taking the capo off transposes the tuning of the guitar down 2 semitones/1 tone. Conversely, putting the capo on transposes up 1 tone.

I'm suggesting that Paul's guitar was already capoed at the 2nd fret - we know that because that's how he recorded Yesterday earlier in the session - and he left it capoed for IJSAF, meaning that although he was playing the familiar G-based chord sequence which Joe has set out above, the capo means it was transposed up a tone to the second chord sequence Joe set out above ie. it becomes A-based as it is on the record. If he now plays live the same chords without the capo, then it drops to G.

27 November 2013
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vectisfabber said
...that's how he recorded
Yesterday earlier in the session...

In this bit you're wrong. I've Just Seen A Face was the first song recorded on 14 June 1965, in 6 takes, followed by I'm Down, in 7 takes. These were recorded between 2.30-5.30pm. They then took a break until 7.00 pm, when they recorded the 2 takes of Yesterday, finishing at 10.00pm.

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5 December 2013
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