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I'll Cry Instead - Unedited Version
5 December 2010
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danielcelano
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Which year was the unedited/long version of I'll Cry Instead (2:04) was first heard in the United Kingdom? The 1980s or 2004?

5 December 2010
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I don't think I heard it on an official release until I bought an import of the Capitol box set, though it was bootlegged long before that came out.

Why the 1980s or 2004 specifically? The EMI CD version of AHDN here has never had the full version.

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6 December 2010
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You mean the unedited/long version of I'll Cry Instead was only on the US album release called "A Hard Day's Night" like this one?

 

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6 December 2010
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That was released in the US but not in the UK. The First UK release with the extra verse featured on the American Release of the AHDN and The American Album Something New was the Capital Albums Box set Volume 1. Specifically Disc 3 Entitled Something New

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7 December 2010
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I guess it was only on the mono edition of that album - I owned "Something New" for a time, and it had the shorter 1:49 versionIsn't it more accurate to call the shorter version the "unedited" one? That extra verse was apparently just a repeat of the first verse artificially spliced in at the end, after all.

Also, I'm probably alone in this, but I wish Richard Lester had used "I'll Cry Instead" rather than "Can't Buy Me Love" for the AHDN fire-escape sequence, as was originally intended. But maybe that's just because I think "Cry" is the better song...

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7 December 2010
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I agree, and not only because I hate Can't Buy Me Love

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
12 December 2010
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By the way, I'll Cry Instead and Can't Buy Me Love are the same lengths as the chase scene. Right, guys?

12 December 2010
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While I agree that I'll Cry Instead is a better song - at the time AHDN came out Can't Buy Me Love really captured the 

exuberance of Beatlemania.

Just consider the opening lyrics - Can't buy love me, oh! versus "I got every reason on earth to be sad"

Given the positive slant of Can't Buy Me Love versus the blues tone of I'll Cry Instead, I thinkn Dick Lester made the right choice - even though I prefer I'll Cry Instead as a song.

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13 December 2010
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Yeah, and hadn't "Can't Buy Me Love" already been a #1 hit months before the movie was even released? That may have been a factor too.

Also, they had to artificially lengthen "I'll Cry Instead" to match the amount of film footage they wanted to use, so that had to be taken into account too.

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13 December 2010
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Right you are Von

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14 December 2010
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OP:- Do you mean this one? If so, it was first issued on a commercially issued AHDN VHS in the 1980's.

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14 December 2010
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Number Nine said:

OP:- Do you mean this one? If so, it was first issued on a commercially issued AHDN VHS in the 1980's.

                  


Yeah, it was SUPPOSED to be...but the VHS copy I bought (and still own) never had it! "Over 15 minutes of bonus footage!" claims the box. "Approx. time 108 minutes" claims the box. "Approx. 90 minutes" claims the tape itself, wtf?!  And yeah I bought it new/sealed, so it's not like I bought a used copy of the original inside of the New! Improved! version's box. Weird...

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15 December 2010
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Since the longer version of I'll Cry Instead is unedited, I think the I'll Cry Instead clip is seen in theatres in both the US and the UK. Right, guys?

15 December 2010
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It wasn't in the film and The Long one was the Edited one. The Unedited one is the one On the U.K. AHDN

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22 December 2010
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Are you saying that unedited version is 1:46, not 2:06?

22 December 2010
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Yes, because they artificially lengthened the 2:06 with a repitition of one of the verses

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29 December 2010
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I have both versions of 'I'll Cry Instead' this is one of my favorite Lennon songs. 

The song with the extra first verse first appeared on the United Artist album 'A Hard Day's Night'. Both the mono and Stereo versions of this album have the extrra verse. there is only a mono mix though of this version. The Stereo AHDN has this version in re channeled Stereo. (It is interesting that United Artists used re channeled mixes for the Beatle songs but all the George Martin Instrumentals are in true Stereo.

Regarding 'Something New', the extra verse is only in the mono version of this album. Buy the way, you also get the version of 'And I Love Her' on the AHDN album with McCartney's vocal not double tracked as well as on 'Something New'

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19 February 2011
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Since the unedited version of I'll Cry Instead is 1:46, I think the other song called "I Me Mine" is 1:34. But then, Spector edited it to make it longer which is 2:25 because the repeat of the chorus and second verse is heard. Right, guys?

19 February 2011
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danielcelano said:

Since the unedited version of I'll Cry Instead is 1:46, I think the other song called "I Me Mine" is 1:34. But then, Spector edited it to make it longer which is 2:25 because the repeat of the chorus and second verse is heard. Right, guys?


Yes. The same edit was used on Let It Be Naked

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Yep! Nice job Dan. Good call Mr. S!

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