"Hey Jude": Original in MINOR scale! | Fab Forum

Please consider registering
Guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —






— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
"Hey Jude": Original in MINOR scale!
No permission to create posts
1 March 2013
10.33pm
Avatar
Inner Light
Friar Park
Carnegie Hall
Forum Posts: 527
Member Since:
20 December 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Very interesting!

 

The further one travels, the less one knows
2 March 2013
12.06am
Avatar
RunForYourLife
London Palladium
Forum Posts: 153
Member Since:
17 November 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I cracked up when the backing vocals came in.

2 March 2013
12.17am
Avatar
Ron Nasty
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 5356
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

But it is a fake. There are alternate Hey Jude's. Some where they play with keys, and styles. None with backing singers.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

2 March 2013
2.00am
Avatar
Gerard
Hollywood Bowl
Forum Posts: 691
Member Since:
27 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

mja6758 said
But it is a fake. There are alternate Hey Jude's. Some where they play with keys, and styles. None with backing singers.

Yep it's fake, uploader mentions it so... but still it's amazing to hear it in minor.

2 March 2013
2.15am
Avatar
parlance
Slaggers
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 7095
Member Since:
8 November 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

*cracking up* Love it.

parlance

Beware of sadness. It can hit you. It can hurt you. Make you sore and what is more, that is not what you are here for. - George

Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at Vimeo or YouTube.

2 March 2013
2.46am
Avatar
SatanHimself
Hades-on-Leith
Hollywood Bowl
Forum Posts: 696
Member Since:
16 August 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I just want to shoot some heroin and curl up and die while I enjoy this...

E is for 'Ergent'.
2 March 2013
4.10am
Avatar
Into the Sky with Diamonds
New York
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 1566
Member Since:
9 August 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Would love to know how that was done!

Imagine applying that technology to other songs.

Can you play "Eleanor Rigby" in a major key?

"Into the Sky with Diamonds" (the Beatles and the Race to the Moon – a history)
2 March 2013
11.36am
Avatar
Gerard
Hollywood Bowl
Forum Posts: 691
Member Since:
27 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Would love to know how that was done!

Imagine applying that technology to other songs.

Can you play "Eleanor Rigby" in a major key?

Lol how could a singer sing it in a lively way whereas the lyrics are very sad in a good way.

2 March 2013
2.19pm
Avatar
parlance
Slaggers
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 7095
Member Since:
8 November 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Into the Sky with Diamonds said

Can you play "Eleanor Rigby" in a major key?

I think this guy takes requests. ;->

parlance

Beware of sadness. It can hit you. It can hurt you. Make you sore and what is more, that is not what you are here for. - George

Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at Vimeo or YouTube.

2 March 2013
11.15pm
Avatar
Into the Sky with Diamonds
New York
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 1566
Member Since:
9 August 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Answered my own question:

Here's "Beat It"

"Into the Sky with Diamonds" (the Beatles and the Race to the Moon – a history)
3 March 2013
1.00am
Avatar
vonbontee
Inside an Apple Orchard in a Letterbox
Rishikesh
Forum Posts: 2809
Member Since:
1 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Haha, somehow the process also miraculously changed the image of 1982 Michael Jackson to 1987 Michael Jackson!

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

4 March 2013
8.36pm
Avatar
Egroeg Evoli
Across the universe
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 1825
Member Since:
6 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Those were both very interesting. Hey Jude just doesn't sound right in a minor key, but I kinda liked Beat It in a major key.

Geometry, wisdom, tangerines... "The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say..."

Also known as Egg-Rock, Egg-Roll, E-George, Eggy, Ravioli, Eggroll Eggrolli...

Purple stuff... ellipses...

1 May 2014
6.22pm
Avatar
MrMoonlight
Alone in the clouds all blue...
Shea Stadium
Forum Posts: 830
Member Since:
2 April 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This is what got me into the Beatles, believe it or not.

The following people thank MrMoonlight for this post:

Starr Shine?
~ http://lymerence.bandcamp.com/ ~
1 May 2014
6.40pm
Avatar
Starr Shine?
Waiting in the Sky
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 11652
Member Since:
1 November 2013
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online

I agree with some of the people the minor key doesn't work as well for this song

she was the sun, burning bright and brittle and, https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.

1 May 2014
6.46pm
Bungalow Bob
Seattle, Washington
Paris Olympia
Forum Posts: 356
Member Since:
16 September 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This is such a hoot to hear "Hey Jude" in a minor key. "Take a sad song and make it sadder!" :D

The following people thank Bungalow Bob for this post:

Starr Shine?, Mr. Kite, parlance, Ahhh Girl
1 May 2014
7.52pm
Avatar
Mr. Kite
910 Penny Lane, Strawberry Fields, Pepperland
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 6133
Member Since:
4 February 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This is really interesting... I kinda like it, but the end is fighting to be happy despite the minor! Wait... no it's just getting sadder... Now it seems back and forth sad, happy... I don't know, but it's quite interesting.

Sadly the Beat It video doesn't work... What's funny is at one point Michael Jackson owned both of those songs!

If I spoke prose you'd all find out, I don't know what I talk about.

Can buy Joe love!
If you're shopping at one of these two websites use the links below to support the Beatles Bible:

Amazon | iTunes

1 May 2014
9.07pm
Avatar
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Rishikesh
Forum Posts: 2843
Member Since:
14 December 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

That "Hey Jude" was kinda perturbing to me, 'cause the original always sounded to me like it was in a minor key already. Thought I had the ability to differentiate just from hearing (and often do) but that one's misleading. I'm sure someone here has the musical knowledge to explain why it fools me so (though probably not in a way I can easily understand.)

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
1 May 2014
11.52pm
Avatar
Funny Paper
America
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 2093
Member Since:
1 November 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yes Vontee, the original in the major key of F does have a minorish feel.  I think it's because the melody is flirting with a melody that would also fit into the minorish mode called "Dorian" which would use Gm7 to C (In Hey Jude, we have Bb and C7, which are similar).

There's one major problem, however, with converting it to minor:  the signature melodic leitmotif -- the two notes sung for the title words, "Hey Jude..." strongly dip down from a C to an A note for the dominant F major chord (also the key of the whole song); and it is precisely the A note that makes the F chord a major chord! 

That signature melodic motif ("Hey Jude...") are practically as famous and familiar to our ears as the first four notes of Beethoven's 5th.

The following people thank Funny Paper for this post:

Starr Shine?, Von Bontee, Oudis
Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...
11 September 2014
9.59pm
Avatar
Oudis
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 1404
Member Since:
15 May 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Call me anything you want, but I liked it. It sounds more… dramatic.

Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit” (“Perhaps one day it will be a pleasure to look back on even this”; Virgil, The Aeneid, Book 1, line 203, where Aeneas says this to his men after the shipwreck that put them on the shores of Africa)

12 September 2014
2.33am
Avatar
UnidentifiedFiendishThingy
Across The Universe
Carnegie Hall
Forum Posts: 529
Member Since:
8 August 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I like it. It makes it sound more epic and ironic. I also noticed at 2:53 you can hear the infamous expletive.

Look its a thingy! A fiendish thingy!
Forum Timezone: America/Chicago

Most Users Ever Online: 597

Currently Online: Starr Shine?, Silly Girl, NickCanadaCore, Eleanor Macca
87 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

Starr Shine?: 11650

Silly Girl: 7724

parlance: 7095

mr. Sun king coming together: 6980

Mr. Kite: 6133

trcanberra: 5776

Ron Nasty: 5356

Necko: 4875

mithveaen: 4630

AppleScruffJunior: 4005

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 87

Members: 3499

Moderators: 4

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 3

Forums: 42

Topics: 3938

Posts: 218966

Newest Members:

TheFifties, bmw8282, man on the flaming pie, herseydenvar, Polythene_kite

Moderators: Ahhh Girl: 11826, meanmistermustard: 18460, Zig: 8371, Joe: 4476

Administrators: Joe: 4476, Ellie: 3

Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today: None
Upcoming: wallflower1996