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Her Majesty-Fitting Finish to the Fab Four or a Final Flaw?
14 November 2010
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MeanMrs.Mustard said:

Well, that was…
 

*puts on sunglasses*

obvious!

YEAH!



 You just won 1000 awesome points for that.

The YEAH! needs to be longer, though.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH! a-hard-days-night-john-6

 

Anyway, personally, I like the little added touch of Her Majesty being at the end of The End. It shows their less serious side (although you see that more often than their serious side, really)

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14 November 2010
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mithveaen said:

Something I have to say about Paul's ego or John's ego.

 

I don't think this was a bad thing. After all, it was a factor for making them Lennon/McCartney.

 

That's why one of my favorite George songs is I, Me, Mine, because I can see George sitting, looking at these and says "Oh come on already, we know you're f**king Lennon/McCartney. So what??" a-hard-days-night-george-10


Yes, I love the scene in Let It Be when the three of them play I, Me, Mine and George is like hidden in the darkness and singing the song while John and Yoko are dancing with each other. It's pretty telling. They both had massive egos, but at least John admited it, Paul just would release an album with a press release of the Beatles breaking up and a few comments on how unbelievable his album is. Just kidding, or am I being sarcastic? Someone tell me!
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I thought Her Majesty was a fun ending to The Beatles last recorded album. It was just like them to end their last album with a fun little diddy about "Her Majesty" and that she's a nice girl. Very much reminds me of their humor and how they where.

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14 November 2010
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The queen must have appreciated their humor- Paul is now a sir.

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14 November 2010
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I love Her Majesty because it's the only song I can play in Expert level with the drums a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-john-6

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CranberrySauce said:

The queen must have appreciated their humor- Paul is now a sir.


Haha, she must have.
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14 November 2010
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I always thought of it as an encore. A little thing to end with to keep the fans wondering.

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14 November 2010
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mithveaen said:

I love Her Majesty because it's the only song I can play in Expert level with the drums a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-john-6


You don't even have Rock Band! You just stole that off YouTube. 

I can play lots of songs on the Expert level on drums. :D  

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MeanMrs.Mustard said:

 

You don't even have Rock Band! You just stole that off YouTube.
 

I can play lots of songs on the Expert level on drums. :D  


I can do the three part harmonies on expert on my own.
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You don't even have Rock Band! You just stole that off YouTube.

 

I can play lots of songs on the Expert level on drums. :D  


Did I say "Hey that is ME playing the drums in Rock Band" ?
 

No I didn't. It was to show the irony of my comment.

And not having Rock Band doesn't mean I don't play it. My nephew sometimes spends weekends in my house, and he brings his Wii and all his Rockband set and we play.

 

The story was really sweet. He was playing guitar, I was playing drums. I felt a bit frustrated for not matching his expertise in playing rock band and not helping him to get stars or whatever bullshit you get for playing well, and he said "Hey I know a song you can play in expert!" and we played Her Majesty. We laughed a lot.

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15 November 2010
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paulsbass said:

Von Bontee said:

 

I love knowing about the happy accident that resulted in its inclusion on the album.

 

If you know about it being an accident, why your theory about it being Paul's egotrip??? Since I didn't have that impression nor would I ever come up with something like that it looks as if you're wrong about calling it "unavoidable".

How
is it The Beatles' mistake that so many other artists copied this
accident?? They didn't try to be clever, they just liked it!

So I couldn't disagree more with your "rant".

And btw, Abbey Road was far less Paul's project than Peppers. They ALL wanted to end it well and put all their effort in it and cooperated and re-recruted George Martin to do one more great album like in the old days.

It has George's best songs and Ringo's best song and my favourite John song (I want you) and, indeed, many great Paul songs. So it's EVERYONE at their peak.

Don't try to put down Macca all the time, if you please.


I wasn't putting Paul down at all. You misunderstood me. I said it was as if  Paul tried to upstage his bandmates. I said that I know it was an accident and that Paul didn't intend for "Her Majesty's" placement to be some kind of ego trip. The fact that Paul (originally) intended to exclude "Her Majesty" is like the OPPOSITE of egotism! When I said "unavoidable impression" I was referring to MYSELF, my impression that was unfortunately made unavoidable by future events. To claim that I'm blaming Paul for future events is as silly as claiming that I blame John for "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" being a depressing reminder of his murder! (I don't think that way at all, btw, it's just an example.) I LIKE "Her Majesty", I just happen to like it a lot more as a bridge between "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "Polythene Pam", for a number of reasons which I explicitly explained. It's a minor complaint about song sequencing on a great, great album – a large part of which greatness is thanks to your hero, Paul McCartney. There's another thread where I complained in equal detail about another fantastic album (Rubber Soul) which could've been even better if they'd chosen a different track as closer. I didn't blame anyone in particular there either.

As for all the other folks who released CDs with the long-silence-then-hidden-track thing (with their hidden tracks being much less enjoyable than "Her Majesty", usually), they may have taken the idea from Abbey Road, or they may not have. It doesn't matter to me either way, I just have the same opinion: it's amusing the first time you play it, irritating ever after.

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15 November 2010
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The CREeK said:

If it's that big a deal to you that Her Majesty is right there, don't listen to it.


Well, like I said, I did something even better: re-edited the entire medley into a single 16-minute track with "HM" back in between "Mustard" and "Pam" – where I prefer it – and with "Bathroom Window" seguing into "Golden Slumbers" rather than fading entirely.

For illustration, for anybody who wants to hear "Her Majesty" with her two neighbours, just download this:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2t3qt5

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I wasn't putting Paul down at all. You misunderstood me.
 

  Well, it wasn't actually that hard to get the impression I got.

Yes, Macca IS my hero (not in EVERY way, but still) and I don't like it when people suggest things that support the bad image he has among Lennon-followers.

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Von Bontee, I did the experiment you said (I have all my Beatle collection on mp3 so it was easy, without the fading of course) and it's brilliant. I've just moved Her Majesty in the new order.

 

And it's just perfect, because after The End I have Free as a Bird.. so the small silence it's like the years that went by and now I hear the Beatles from my era!! 

 

Ok do I sound like I'm waaay too much into the Beatles??? a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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mithveaen said:

Von Bontee, I did the experiment you said (I have all my Beatle collection on mp3 so it was easy, without the fading of course) and it's brilliant. I've just moved Her Majesty in the new order.

 

And it's just perfect, because after The End I have Free as a Bird.. so the small silence it's like the years that went by and now I hear the Beatles from my era!! 

 

Ok do I sound like I'm waaay too much into the Beatles??? a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-paul-7a-hard-days-night-paul-7


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paulsbass said:

vonbontee said:


I wasn't putting Paul down at all. You misunderstood me.

 


Well, it wasn't actually that hard to get the impression I got.
 

Yes, Macca IS my hero (not in EVERY way, but still) and I don't like it when people suggest things that support the bad image he has among Lennon-followers.


I'm a big time Lennon fan, but that doesn't mean I dislike Paul. People will also put him down because they believe his ego was so large that he took control of the band and wanted to (as mentioned earlier) have the last word with 'Her Majesty'. While I'm not a fan of its placement, the ego-trip theory does not appear to be the correct one.

I also believe that Paul was one heck of a lot more than just 'the cute one'.

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paulsbass said:

vonbontee said:


I wasn't putting Paul down at all. You misunderstood me.
 

  Well, it wasn't actually that hard to get the impression I got.
Yes, Macca IS my hero (not in EVERY way, but still) and I don't like it when people suggest things that support the bad image he has among Lennon-followers.

Put one negative comment about Paul, and it's a guarantee that paulsbass will be defending him. I know von bontee has said that he didn't think that it was an intentional ego trip by Paul, but I completely disagree. It was, and Paul had an absolutely massive ego. But, being more of a Lennon fan myself, it's hard not to say that John's ego was just as big, if not bigger. I think it was because of John's huge ego that he tried to sabotage the Beatles by not bringing anything to the table for Let it Be, by showing up a few days late for Abbey Road, even though he was okay to come in from the accident, it was just that Yoko was still not well so he couldn't have possibly shown up without her. Hell, it was a huge ego trip for him to even bring Yoko to the sessions in the first place. Like skye said in another thread, this was John's band and the others weren't going to tell him not to bring her in. So yes, John had a huge ego, but at least we're willing to admit it. You McCartney fans are so adament that Paul's never done anything wrong, which clearly isn't the case.
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GniknuS said:

paulsbass said:

vonbontee said:


I wasn't putting Paul down at all. You misunderstood me.

 


Well, it wasn't actually that hard to get the impression I got.

Yes, Macca IS my hero (not in EVERY way, but still) and I don't like it when people suggest things that support the bad image he has among Lennon-followers.
 


Put one negative comment about Paul, and it's a guarantee that paulsbass will be defending him. I know von bontee has said that he didn't think that it was an intentional ego trip by Paul, but I completely disagree. It was, and Paul had an absolutely massive ego. But, being more of a Lennon fan myself, it's hard not to say that John's ego was just as big, if not bigger. I think it was because of John's huge ego that he tried to sabotage the Beatles by not bringing anything to the table for Let it Be, by showing up a few days late for Abbey Road, even though he was okay to come in from the accident, it was just that Yoko was still not well so he couldn't have possibly shown up without her. Hell, it was a huge ego trip for him to even bring Yoko to the sessions in the first place. Like skye said in another thread, this was John's band and the others weren't going to tell him not to bring her in. So yes, John had a huge ego, but at least we're willing to admit it. You McCartney fans are so adament that Paul's never done anything wrong, which clearly isn't the case.
 

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GniknuS said:


Put one negative comment about Paul, and it's a guarantee that paulsbass will be defending him. I know von bontee has said that he didn't think that it was an intentional ego trip by Paul, but I completely disagree. It was, and Paul had an absolutely massive ego.

 

Yes, he did. But, again, it's been well established that "HM"'s inclusion was an accident. Having already decided to reject the track one time, there's no reason to believe that he would've changed his mind about its inclusion, had the decision not first been inadvertently made without his knowledge.

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vonbontee said:

GniknuS said:


Put one negative comment about Paul, and it's a guarantee that paulsbass will be defending him. I know von bontee has said that he didn't think that it was an intentional ego trip by Paul, but I completely disagree. It was, and Paul had an absolutely massive ego.

 


 

Yes, he did. But, again, it's been well established that "HM"'s inclusion was an accident. Having already decided to reject the track one time, there's no reason to believe that he would've changed his mind about its inclusion, had the decision not first been inadvertently made without his knowledge.


Well it's all basically myth no matter what you believe, after all this time who really knows the official Beatles story and what really did and did not happen? But if the engineer says that he put it in without Paul's knowledge, I have no reason to doubt him, I stand corrected.
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