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5.08pm
19 September 2010
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I wrote my post after the post by Mean Mrs Mustard so I didn't see that post
The recording of the end was a collaborative effort whereas Her majesty was Paul doodling by himself. This comes down to this question: Would you prefer to end the career of the Beatles with an Solo recording by 1 of it's members or a song with solos by all 4 members of the group? To me the choice is obvious. It should have ended with the end
5.11pm
12 March 2010
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kelicopter said:
Don't get me wrong, I do quite like Her Majesty, it is a really nice piece of music. It's just that in my opinion, it would have fitted better somewhere mid album.
I mean, none of us will ever know the exact reasons as to why they decided to keep Her Majesty at the end. These are all just theories, we're all just having our opinion. Even if the "evil meaning" wasn't intentional on Paul's behalf, that is just how some people perceive the song. And they're entitled to think that.
Fair enough.
We're all entitled to opinions, and I just expressed mine as well.
5.12pm
7 August 2010
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paulsbass said:
kelicopter said:
Don't get me wrong, I do quite like Her Majesty, it is a really nice piece of music. It's just that in my opinion, it would have fitted better somewhere mid album.
I mean, none of us will ever know the exact reasons as to why they decided to keep Her Majesty at the end. These are all just theories, we're all just having our opinion. Even if the "evil meaning" wasn't intentional on Paul's behalf, that is just how some people perceive the song. And they're entitled to think that.
Fair enough.
We're all entitled to opinions, and I just expressed mine as well.
I just realized that you were here.
5.19pm
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said:
I wrote my post after the post by Mean Mrs Mustard so I didn't see that post
The recording of the end was a collaborative effort whereas Her majesty was Paul doodling by himself. This comes down to this question: Would you prefer to end the career of the Beatles with an Solo recording by 1 of it's members or a song with solos by all 4 members of the group? To me the choice is obvious. It should have ended with the end
No, the question was not "what would you prefer". It WAS in the OP, but I referred to the "ego-trip" statement.
You can refer what you want! But I don't think it's fair to give this evil meaning to HM.
6.03pm
19 September 2010
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Her Majesty would have been a fine addition to the medley (although I would have preferred another verse added). My problem is that their final album is ended a solo recording. I hate the fact that John and Paul chose Good Night to end the White Album. An album should be ended with a group hoorah! Not with a solo recording.
6.25pm
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said:
Her Majesty would have been a fine addition to the medley (although I would have preferred another verse added). My problem is that their final album is ended a solo recording. I hate the fact that John and Paul chose Good Night to end the White Album. An album should be ended with a group hoorah! Not with a solo recording.
You can hate what you want. HM would have been nothing special in the medley.
I LOVE Good Night as the last song! I think it's nice that (according to YOU) John and Paul choose a Ringo song to close the album! And the way he says "Good night everybody. Everybody, everywhere" at the end brings tears to my eyes. Perfect ending to an almost perfect album.
Oh, and wait, they closed "Love" with it as well. Wasn't that a musical about – The Beatles???
The end as the very last song would have been great, and it WAS intended to be that, obviously.
Then the accident with the tape happens – and they stay true to themselves and keep the mistake instead of going "NONONO, we are the biggest band ever, our last song is sooooo important, we need a PERFECT, lush last song!!!"
That's my opinion. You have yours. Nuff said.
No, not enough.
According to YOUR concept the perfect ending for "Sgt. Peppers" would have been "Sgt Pepper's reprise".
But that would have been WAY too obvious for the Fab Four. Instead, after the official end, they put one of their greatest songs (practically without any George effort, by the way. Any complaints about ADITL not being a group effort?), and AFTER the last chord of all last chords they put ANOTHER "trick".
The Beatles don't do obvious things. That's why they're the greatest ever.
6.58pm
19 September 2010
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paulsbass said:
mr. Sun king coming together said:
Her Majesty would have been a fine addition to the medley (although I would have preferred another verse added). My problem is that their final album is ended a solo recording. I hate the fact that John and Paul chose Good Night to end the White Album. An album should be ended with a group hoorah! Not with a solo recording.
You can hate what you want. HM would have been nothing special in the medley.
I LOVE Good Night as the last song! I think it's nice that (according to YOU) John and Paul choose a Ringo song to close the album! And the way he says "Good night everybody. Everybody, everywhere" at the end brings tears to my eyes. Perfect ending to an almost perfect album.
Oh, and wait, they closed "Love" with it as well. Wasn't that a musical about – The Beatles???
The end as the very last song would have been great, and it WAS intended to be that, obviously.
Then the accident with the tape happens – and they stay true to themselves and keep the mistake instead of going "NONONO, we are the biggest band ever, our last song is sooooo important, we need a PERFECT, lush last song!!!"
That's my opinion. You have yours. Nuff said.
No, not enough.
According to YOUR concept the perfect ending for "Sgt. Peppers" would have been "Sgt Pepper's reprise".
But that would have been WAY too obvious for the Fab Four. Instead, after the official end, they put one of their greatest songs (practically without any George effort, by the way. Any complaints about ADITL not being a group effort?), and AFTER the last chord of all last chords they put ANOTHER "trick".
The Beatles don't do obvious things. That's why they're the greatest ever.
I have nothing against them picking a Ringo Tune to end the White Album
A Day in The Life is the best song EVER by anyone IMO.
I DON't Hate Her Majesty. However to equate that Her Majesty is the same as the dog tone/gibberish talking after ADITL is Absurd beyond Belief
Also If 3 or more Members play on the track it is a Group effort.
This is ridiculous.
Somebody please please help me, cause I'm drowning in a sea of hatred called paulsbass
7.09pm
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said:
I have nothing against them picking a Ringo Tune to end the White Album
A Day in The Life is the best song EVER by anyone IMO.
I DON't Hate Her Majesty. However to equate that Her Majesty is the same as the dog tone/gibberish talking after ADITL is Absurd beyond Belief
Also If 3 or more Members play on the track it is a Group effort.
This is ridiculous.
Jeez, if you can't stand a little fight among Beatles fans change your signature picture!
You said you hated Good Night as the last track. I explained why I love it.
We agree about ADITL.
I never thought you would hate HM. I get your point. I explained mine.
Your definition of a "group effort" is indeed ridiculous.
Btw, check out the Anthology version of "Good night" and listen to ALL THREE non singing/playing Beatles giving Ringo advice, thus working on the track. Is it still not a group effort, since they are not actually playing??
I don't think "How do you sleep" was a group effort, although three members play on it…
What, you think YOU need help against me?? Usually it's ME who stands alone… And don't worry, I don't hate you. Not even Mr. BigMouth.
Edit: I re-read my post many times and I just don't GET where you get the feeling I hate you or anybody else… YOU talked about hating things.
7.16pm
19 September 2010
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First Ringo doesn't drum How Do you Sleep
Secondly, I love Good Night, I just disagree with the placement.
Thank you for enlightening me on the Good Night Anthology 3 version.
however I didn't say it must have 3 or more members for it to count, but if it has 3 or more it definitely counts
i repeat "Somebody please please help me, cause I'm drowning in a sea of hatred called paulsbass"
7.54pm
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said:
First Ringo doesn't drum How Do you Sleep
Secondly, I love Good Night, I just disagree with the placement.
Thank you for enlightening me on the Good Night Anthology 3 version.
however I didn't say it must have 3 or more members for it to count, but if it has 3 or more it definitely counts
i repeat "Somebody please please help me, cause I'm drowning in a sea of hatred called paulsbass"
Oh, my mistake about HDYS.
Yes, I got that.
Welcome.
Whatever.
Still no hate from my part, so…
7.56pm
19 September 2010
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I am kidding about the "Somebody please please help me, cause I'm drowning in a sea of hatred called paulsbass"
8.17pm
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said:
I am kidding about the "Somebody please please help me, cause I'm drowning in a sea of hatred called paulsbass"
Ah. I guess it's a quote from a song then?
8.20pm
19 September 2010
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Yes, A Lennon Song called Going down on Love
8.28pm
12 March 2010
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OK song.
Damn, always this tricky math…
10.13pm
11 November 2010
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Von Bontee said:
So, no: I much prefer the album to end with, duh, "The End", and I think "Her Majesty" works so much better in its original placement, between "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "Polytheme Pam". And that's the way I re-edited it as soon as I had the software to do so. (I also cross-faded the end of "…Bathroom Window" with the beginning of "Golden Slumbers", but that's another story.) The whole thing's now one long 16-minute track on my computer; and when I want to hear that big medley, that's what I play instead of the CD.
(Only one minor problem I have with the "Mustard/Majesty/Pam" sequence: John's "His sister Pam…" no longer immediately preceding "Polytheme Pam" eliminates a tiny bit of thematic continuity. But at least "Mustard" also has a reference to the Queen, so following that with a song about "Her Majesty" partially compensates for the "Pam" discontinuity.)
See, I can't really picture Her Majesty in between Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam. I mean, I know it was the original running order and all, but Her Majesty is a mellower song than both Mean Mr. Mustard and Polythene Pam. It seems like it would just sound out-of-place when put between the two. This is just what I think, though. I've never actually tried to put Her Majesty in between the two songs, so I can't really say.
12.10am
1 May 2010
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Something I have to say about Paul's ego or John's ego.
I don't think this was a bad thing. After all, it was a factor for making them Lennon/McCartney.
That's why one of my favorite George songs is I, Me, Mine, because I can see George sitting, looking at these and says "Oh come on already, we know you're f**king Lennon/McCartney. So what??" 
1.32am
9 June 2010
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paulsbass said:
The Beatles don't do obvious things. That's why they're the greatest ever.
Well, that was…
*puts on sunglasses*
obvious!
YEAH!
mr. Sun king coming together said:
I am kidding about the "Somebody please please help me, cause I'm drowning in a sea of hatred called paulsbass"
If you have to say you're just kidding, why say it at all? And twice, for that matter?
mr. Sun king coming together said And yes, YouTube comments are stupid. But hilariously so.
1.36am
19 September 2010
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Sarcasm, M3.
1.44am
9 June 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said:
Sarcasm, M3.
There's a difference between sarcasm and "just kidding." Both are saying something without really meaning it, but there's a difference. Sarcasm is when I say, "Boy, is my room clean." "Just kidding" is when you say something potentially hurtful with or without thinking, and then decide to try to pass it all off with, "Oh, it was just a joke. Seriously, can't you take a joke?" When you're in a "just kidding" situation, why say anything at all? I find that I think less highly of those who use "just kidding" to get out of the consequences of dumb things they say. Don't mothers still repeat the trite but true "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" to their children?
mr. Sun king coming together said And yes, YouTube comments are stupid. But hilariously so.
2.09am
19 September 2010
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Personally I use sarcasm quite often and when someone doesn't get the sarcasm and gets offended/insulted/hurt when I was making a joke with my sarcastic streak I use Just Kidding to tell them I didn't mean to offend/insult/hurt that person. I do understand your point but it can be used alternatively.
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