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Guitar Solo In The Song 'Slow Down'
23 December 2010
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Does anyone know if the guitar solo in 'Slow Down' is definitely John. I sounds more like George and is pretty complicated for John doing a solo like that in 1964.

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23 December 2010
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According to This article, It`s John: /songs/slow-down/

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23 December 2010
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This was addressed just a few weeks ago on the main "Slow Down" page, and I said that I was intrigued and that I'd give a listen and offer my opinion. And I forgot, and now I'm even more curious; but it's too late and I'll be out of town until the new year! Damn.

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23 December 2010
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I don't know for sure that it's John, but it's pretty badly played. Ian MacDonald says it's him, whereas Walter Everett and others say it's George. I think I'll change it to George - it sounds more like him, although he was clearly having an off day.

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23 December 2010
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What does Lewisohn say?

*9*

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23 December 2010
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It's Definitely George. If You Check Out The Version on Live At The BBC,  It is way out Of John's Range of Skill. George just was off on the day they taped the EMI version.

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Nothing about this.

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23 December 2010
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Okay Then

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23 December 2010
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I know the Lennon fans out there are not going to like this but George taught him how to play guitar back in 1958. At that time, john was using banjo strings on his guitar and did not know very many chords.

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23 December 2010
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I don't think the Lennon fans among us (or McCartney, Harrison, Starr or Ono fans; or, uh, Beatles fans, for that matter) would deny that George's guitar skills were superior to John's. Or why we should necessarily like or dislike it.

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23 December 2010
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Sometimes People have problems with the truth about their heroes, especially when of a critical nature.

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23 December 2010
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Inner Light said:

I know the Lennon fans out there are not going to like this, but George taught him how to play guitar back in 1958. At that time, John was using banjo strings on his guitar and did not know very many chords.


Er... don't you mean Paul?

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23 December 2010
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Yup, it was Paul who taught him his chords - Paul played it up side down and John had to figure out how to flip it.

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24 December 2010
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In terms of the solo - I am pretty sure it's George - sounds like George's style (esp. the BBC version).

In terms of who is the better player - as a guitar player myself, I look at it this way - George had a better mastery overall of the guitar - there's no question about it. When John was asked by Rolling Stone he said he didn't think he was that good a technical player - he never stressed his guitar abilities.

With that said, John was a better rhythm player than George. John's syncopated playing, his triplet rhythms and other imaginative chord voicings and reggae hits are very underrated - he called himself the invisible guitar player - but I'll tell you that it's John's driving rhythms that drove that band.

Let It Be really drives that point - on the rocking numbers John is like an engine at high RPMs.

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24 December 2010
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skye said:

Yup, it was Paul who taught him his chords – Paul played it up side down and John had to figure out how to flip it.


Wouldn't that make it easier? I mean, it would be like a mirror…
 

Oh, wait. No. It wouldn't. 

I should know that. I've been playing for nearly a year. 

EDIT: Wait. If Paul was playing a re-strung guitar, it would. Dang you, skye. You tricked me. 

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24 December 2010
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As a non-guitarist, I`m Confused

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24 December 2010
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OK, I don't play guitar either but this is how I *think*  it works:

The chord is this like this (using three strings to make it easy on me)

______x_

__x_____

____x___

Paul plays this (his guitar is upside because he's left handed, but it's strung for someone who plays right)

___x____

_____x__

_x______

So John sees this and has to rotate it, not mirror it, becuase that will be a different sound.

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24 December 2010
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That helps alot, Thanks Skye

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