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        	<title>mja6758 on German "Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand" superior to English version</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Glad to have been of some help by pointing out the discussion happening here. Camillo Felgen wasn't someone I'd come across before either, until the contradictions were pointed out here. I think you make an interesting point about when he must have been contracted, and one that must surely be right.</p>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I've changed the articles (Komm, SLD and the session page). Thanks for pointing out Camillo Felgen to me - I wasn't aware of him before.</p>
<p>However, one thing did come to light that I don't think has been reported elsewhere. Most accounts say that Felgen had 24 hours to write the translations, then fly to Paris from Germany to teach the songs to The Beatles. That may have been the case, but it meant he would have been contacted on 26 Jan 1964, three days before the session actually took place. Why? Because the session was originally supposed to have been ...]]></description>
        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<strong>mja6758 said </strong><br />
 If you look at the comments section on the song, in response to a question from me about the translator and Otto Demlar, Joe says he will be changing the song entry to Camillo Felgen when he gets the chance. That little question put to bed.</p>
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<p>Thanks for doing that.  Though it seems like a point of minuscule minutiae, I think it's good for a site like this to have its nuts-and-bolts facts straight.</p>
<p>I looked up Camillo Felgen on YouTube; he sounded and looked like an old schmaltzy German version of a lounge lizard.  It would almost ...]]></description>
        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the comments section on the song, in response to a question from me about the translator and Otto Demlar, Joe says he will be changing the song entry to Camillo Felgen when he gets the chance. That little question put to bed.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 17:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mja.  They translate <em>einmal so</em> as "never that way", but I think that's still a figuratively stilted translation (since the "never" is already in the <em>noch nie</em>).  I still suspect there's a more colloquial sense to it, something like "nuh UH!" or "no way!"</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Funny Paper said </strong><br />
Thanks mja for those links.</p>
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<p>With the 2nd link, hope you noticed there's a link to the German lyrics on that page, and from that page there's a link to an English translation of the German lyrics. Answers your "Einmal so" question in another thread.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mja for those links. I think the comparison that comes closest may be David Bowie's Italian version, though the Beach Boys would be a close second.</p>
<p>My favorite among the list in that article is the Italian version of "Downtown" -- <em>Ciao Ciao.</em></p>
<p>Yeah vonbontee, that Chubby Checkers in German is wild.</p>
<p>Run For Your Life,</p>
<p>Your clip only confirms what I said before: it's evident that the Beatles took the opportunity of recording the song again, in German, to improve on it -- which improvements included both the singing (especially the harmony parts) and the guitar fill.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>The guitar tone on that 5-note fill does sound a lot different here than the German version.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, he's not a <em>group</em>, but Chubby Checker recorded a German-language version of "Let's Twist Again" (as "Der Twist Beginnt") in 1961.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Funny Paper, I was wandering around the web after reading your post to Megan in another thread, intrigued by your comment that no other pop/rock group has re-recorded their hits in German. Found this article in The Guardian (10 March 2011), "Readers recommend: foreign language versions - the results", which includes a paragraph on <em>Komm...</em> and <em>Sie Leibt Dich.</em> It includes this interesting line: "The translator, Luxembourger Camillo Felgen, himself had a string of hits. Intriguingly, one was called <em>I Respect Your Grey Hair</em>."</p>
<p>Among the foreign language versions included in their list was "Ganz Allein" (In My Room) by Die Beach Boys.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being behind the beat - John Bonham and Charlie Watts always seemed to lag just an infinitesimal bit, and they were fabulous drummers. I was mostly just trying to describe all the differences I'm perceiving between the two <em>in addition </em> to the reasons why I have a (slight) preference for one over the other. My main reason for preferring the English one is because of the vocal.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>vonbontee said </strong><br />
Gonna have to agree to disagree on that last point. To my ears, the lick sounds more...tentative? plodding? something like that, and marginally behind the beat...</p>
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<p>I've been a percussionist for decades and I really get into rhythms and beats (particularly Latin percussion).  Sometimes a lick or a riff can sound "behind" the beat, but that's not always bad:  to my ears, that effect is perfect for the purposes of this song at those junctures.  It would not only be an artifact of imperfect recording-over, but if on purpose, can be performed by someone with a subtle sense ...]]></description>
        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Gonna have to agree to disagree on that last point. To my ears, the lick sounds more...tentative? plodding? something like that, and marginally behind the beat. The fact that it's so much more prominent in the mix brings that hesitating quality into sharper relief. And there's already enough going on sonically that I don't need that one little bit emphasized. But I respect your opinion nonetheless.</p>
<p>Anyways...it seems neither Happy Nat nor Mark Lewisohn have anything to say about this supposed bass overdub which, according to Walter Everett, was played by George. So who's correct? Was it re-recorded for the German ...]]></description>
        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<strong>parlance said </strong><br />
 All right, 'fess up, which one of you asked Nat the question? <img alt="a-hard-days-night-george-3" src="http://www.beatlesbible.com/wp/wp-content/forum-smileys/ahdn_george_03.gif" width="35" /></p>
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<p>parlance</p>
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<p>&#160;</p>
<p>Actually, Nat's explanation does not definitively rule out that a new guitar lick was recorded on top of the "rhythm track" (whatever that is) they recorded their voices over.  The best Nat comes up with is simply that certain individuals who are good authorities attest to the "rhythm track" being used -- but none of them says (nor were asked, it seems) that no new guitar was recorded over (though of course, one would think they ...]]></description>
        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Could the different sound be from different remastering or mixing that took place? I was just commenting on the Let It Be on Past Masters the other day. I was noticing how much different the vocal sounded, and even though both versions were remastered, it seemed the PM version was a little more alive or loud. </p>
<p>Not that this would prove the German is not as good... but they were very reluctant to actually go and record the German, but it was sort of forced on them todo it. They tried to hide or avoid it, till GM sort of didn't ...]]></description>
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