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Does "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" have an ending?
12 August 2013
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Before Lennon had them cut it, was there a "proper" ending, or was it intended to fade out?

12 August 2013
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The final master runs 8:04, and the album version cuts off at 7:44, so I imagine the original intention was to fade out. Like many other songs meant to fade out, the instrumentation probably fell apart somewhere close to the 8:00 mark.  I like the decision to cut the ending.  It's so very jarring. 

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12 August 2013
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The build up of the guitars and the white noise to the point where its getting overbearing and then the sudden abrupt cut is a very effective element to Abbey Road as whole. Now obviously the effect is different with the vinyl, cassette, 8-track, whatever as the listener would just sit there wondering what the heck had happened, but with the cd going straight into Here Comes The Sun the effect is one of lightness, clarity and all that which is quite wonderful. It really adds to the album overall but in a very different manner.

Personally I love the track. And that little bass run of Pauls which sounds like falling waterheartheartheart

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12 August 2013
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Interesting question…most of the other "Abbey Road" tracks had definite endings, so it may have been the case that they were consciously working out written endings rather than just jamming it out and relying on a fade. Would they have done so for "Heavy" if John had the idea of not letting it play out by cutting the tape?

EDIT: Ok, I started that post an hour ago before having a chance to read Satan's answer, with the new-to-me info regarding the original running time. Interesting!

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12 August 2013
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The guitars and bass are just so great and hypnotising. I could listen to those last few minutes of the song for hours. 

I was just thinking that the other day when we were listening to Abbey Road in the car, about Here Comes The Sun. The song is so heavy (lol sorry) and everything is so much and then it just stops and then you hear that cheery intro of Here Comes The Sun and it just has this weird effect. Very light indeed. Couldn't have picked a better song to follow myself.

13 August 2013
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Linde said
The guitars and bass are just so great and hypnotising. I could listen to those last few minutes of the song for hours. 

I was just thinking that the other day when we were listening to Abbey Road in the car, about Here Comes The Sun. The song is so heavy (lol sorry) and everything is so much and then it just stops and then you hear that cheery intro of Here Comes The Sun and it just has this weird effect. Very light indeed. Couldn't have picked a better song to follow myself.

I feel they intentionally ended Side One with "I Want You" and started Side Two with "Here Comes The Sun" for that very reason: the whole apocalyptic "going to hell" abrupt ending, followed by the cheery, almost radiant glow-like effect "Here Comes The Sun" gives off. I can only imagine the effect the abrupt ending "I Want You" had in the vinyl heyday. It must have scared the fuzz out of people. paul-mccartney

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13 August 2013
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SatanHimself said
The final master runs 8:04, and the album version cuts off at 7:44, so I imagine the original intention was to fade out. Like many other songs meant to fade out, the instrumentation probably fell apart somewhere close to the 8:00 mark.  I like the decision to cut the ending.  It's so very jarring. 

I couldn't find a "final master" on YouTube, but I did find an "extended version" which lasts 9:55.  It ends artificially, like someone just turned it off.  Is that what you meant by "jarring"?

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13 August 2013
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Linde said
The guitars and bass are just so great and hypnotising. I could listen to those last few minutes of the song for hours. 

I was just thinking that the other day when we were listening to Abbey Road in the car, about Here Comes The Sun. The song is so heavy (lol sorry) and everything is so much and then it just stops and then you hear that cheery intro of Here Comes The Sun and it just has this weird effect. Very light indeed. Couldn't have picked a better song to follow myself.

I think of the transition between the two songs like going from a long period of dark stormy weather, to finally an end to the rain and a sun break.

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13 August 2013
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I remember first hearing it back on vinyl. The amount of time I spent staring at the fecking bit of plastic I'd just bought to see why the barsteward thing was jumping! Just like the genius of Her Majesty being cut out of the medley and, after a few seconds of leader tape, being stuck on the end to Paul's delight, John's instruction to just cut the tape gave both sides of the disc innovative endings.

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13 August 2013
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Funny Paper said

SatanHimself said
The final master runs 8:04, and the album version cuts off at 7:44, so I imagine the original intention was to fade out. Like many other songs meant to fade out, the instrumentation probably fell apart somewhere close to the 8:00 mark.  I like the decision to cut the ending.  It's so very jarring. 

I couldn't find a "final master" on YouTube, but I did find an "extended version" which lasts 9:55.  It ends artificially, like someone just turned it off.  Is that what you meant by "jarring"?

That's a cut and paste job.

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13 August 2013
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LOL at Grumpy George in that photo

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13 August 2013
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When I was in 8th grade in music class, we all had an assigned day to bring in a cd over the course of the year and we would listen to it during class. I brought Abbey Road in, and the majority of the class was not really enjoying it and kinda zoning out. I could tell even my music teacher started to get annoyed when She's So Heavy came on. I was sitting next to my buddy and I was like when this song ends its super abrupt and everyone is gonna notice it. So once the song cut, everyone almost jumped at the lack of sound, my teacher even asked me if the cd was broken. I didn't even say anything and Here Comes The Sun calmed everyone back down again.

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13 August 2013
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It's somehow almost mystical, I know their psychedelic era songs are often mystical, but something dreamy about this song.

like alcoholic beverage for a metaphor, like a beaten up guy stranded in a bar,

somehow depressing yet very interesting.

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13 August 2013
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Has any other famous pop musician/band cut a song's ending like that?

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13 August 2013
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I think others have played similar tricks since, but I can't think of instance. And I just have to say this to the people talking about hearing it on CD, and Here Comes The Sun breezing in after it, pause the CD, make a cup of cup, and then listen, because that is how it was. Last track of side 1, first track of side 2. It probably never mattered more for effect.

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13 August 2013
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Funny Paper said
Has any other famous pop musician/band cut a song's ending like that?

Not famous internationally, but the Canadian band Sloan has a song on their 2nd album 'Twice Removed' called "Before I Do" which hearkens to "I Want You".  During an extended ending, it abruptly cuts off at 7:04.

Legend at the time was that the band (who was in dispute with Geffen for dropping the Grunge sound that sold them as Canada's answer to Nirvana) was told to shorten it and they refused, so the label just cut it off the master.  I think the truth was it was a conscious decision, but it's still pretty jarring.

It's an amazing song from an amazing album.

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13 August 2013
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SatanHimself said

Funny Paper said
Has any other famous pop musician/band cut a song's ending like that?

Not famous internationally, but the Canadian band Sloan has a song on their 2nd album 'Twice Removed' called "Before I Do" which hearkens to "I Want You".  During an extended ending, it abruptly cuts off at 7:04.

Legend at the time was that the band (who was in dispute with Geffen for dropping the Grunge sound that sold them as Canada's answer to Nirvana) was told to shorten it and they refused, so the label just cut it off the master.  I think the truth was it was a conscious decision, but it's still pretty jarring.

It's an amazing song from an amazing album.

 

Wow… I forgot all about Sloan… they never really made it here in the States (save for "The Good in Everyone," which I do remember being on the old 120 Minutes show)… are they still around?

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13 August 2013
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Yep.  They've had a long and interesting history.  I'm friends with them still.  I even provided recordings for them which got used in a vinyl-only live "bootleg" release.

After Geffen dropped them, they essentially went independent and had a good string of charting singles here in Canada.  They still follow the basic rule of dividing the songwriting and singing 4 ways.

The heydays are over, but the band still reliably put out interesting and fiercely independent power pop albums.  Their next record is supposed to be a double album, where each band member gets one side.

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14 August 2013
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I saw Sloan live about 14 years ago, they were opening for Matthew Good Band.  I was impressed, they put on a really good show!  

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