The Beatles Bible - Topic: Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/ Simple:Press Version 5.2.6 Joe on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59309 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59309 He had at least one suicide attempt before then. There was a note, to his mother I think.

]]> Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:33:59 +0100 Duke_of_Kirkaldy on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59305 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59305

Sitting on a cornflake said
Hi - yes I've heard this story before too, and the subject of possible BE/JL gay relationship it comes up quite a lot in the latest JL biography, and indeed that the song title at least is about this.

Let's not forget the two went off on holiday togtether just after Julian was born, leaving poor Cynth at home with the new-born!

 

And, months later at Pau's 21st birthday party, John beat the shit out of some guy who implied that said holiday was some sort of clandestine homosexual affair.  ahdn_george_01  ...]]> Wed, 17 Oct 2012 06:51:56 +0100 meanmistermustard on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59287 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59287 Sorry but stories about a possible requited love relationship experience between John and Brian are complete and utter garbage. The stories have been going for years based on little more than rumour, titilation and selling power, at least since when Bob Wooler made insinuations to a drunk John at a birthday party in 1963 and John battered him senseless.

If something had of happened the beatles would have known and it would have come out at some point, probably during the Anthology, or John would have said something - and all that John said was that Brian was in love with him. In the Anthology book John is ...]]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:53:08 +0100 Sitting on a cornflake on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59285 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59285 Well he certainly had a "flair" and good taste for young men!

God rest his soul ... 

mal-evans

]]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:27:23 +0100 fabfouremily on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59283 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59283

Sitting on a cornflake said
Well song title/inspiration there are all sorts of stories really ... even the fact that BE kileld himself is that his love for JL was unrequited, or even that he pushed and promoted them so hard at the beginning becuase he was so 'in love' with them.

a-hard-days-night-paul-10

Yeah I've heard all kinds of things - it's really quite amusing reading them all.

And I'm sure that Brian did push them a lot. I would say that it was because he could see a good buisness oportunity in them though.

]]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:25:34 +0100 Sitting on a cornflake on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59281 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59281 Well song title/inspiration there are all sorts of stories really ... even the fact that BE kileld himself is that his love for JL was unrequited, or even that he pushed and promoted them so hard at the beginning becuase he was so 'in love' with them.

a-hard-days-night-paul-10

]]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:16:26 +0100 fabfouremily on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59280 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59280 I don't think there was anything to that though. John and Brian were good friends, as well as colleagues of sort. Nobody says anything when anybody else goes on holiday with their friend/s, so why is this any different?

The only thing that I have heard from a reliable source (or something close) is that John was inspired by the start of the Disney song, and that's the only thing I'm likely to believe.

]]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:13:24 +0100 Sitting on a cornflake on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59278 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59278 Hi - yes I've heard this story before too, and the subject of possible BE/JL gay relationship it comes up quite a lot in the latest JL biography, and indeed that the song title at least is about this.

Let's not forget the two went off on holiday togtether just after Julian was born, leaving poor Cynth at home with the new-born!

a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

]]> Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:01:41 +0100 Joe on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59221 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59221 Hi Fab4Fan. I've never heard that story before, and (for all it's worth) I've read as many quotes and interviews by The Beatles about their songs as I can get my hands on. However, in Liverpool there's a strong tradition of folklore, and stories you won't hear anywhere else get passed around, so it *may* be true. Alternatively (and I mean this quite affectionately), the Scousers can bullshit like the best of them, so I'd be tempted to put it in the fabrication category.

]]> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 09:49:59 +0100 meanmistermustard on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59183 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59183 I think its pure fabrication personally and have no reason to doubt John's account of being inspired by his mother singing the line when younger. John was candid about most things throughout the 70's so why not that. There is nothing more to George singing DYWTKAS than John giving him a song to sing, i dont think John felt he could sing it himself anyway, tho neither did George  when looking back on it.

All the beatles knew Brian was gay early on in their time together but were more intrigued than anything, it certainly wasnt an issue.

 

Welcome to the site by the way both of you. Feel free ...]]> Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:25:38 +0100 linkjws on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59182 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59182 I am new as well, and really enjoy this site and forum.  I had been reading the site for about a year before I made my account and its a great place.  Also love any questions because we get to see what people who have been die-hard Beatle fans for longer then I have been alive, and well I get to put my two cents in so its nice. 

 

I think it sounds like embellishment, but thats just my take on it all.  John may have been inspired by all of those factors but unfortunately we will never know beyond what ...]]> Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:56:47 +0100 Fab4Fan on Do You Want To Know A Secret? http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59179 The songs http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/the-songs/do-you-want-to-know-a-secret/#p59179 First, this is an amazing site! Thanks to those who helped on my first question posted just 8 days ago. I only created my account late last week and it feels great to be surrounded by kindred spirits. Almost more importantly, I'm so grateful to be in touch with those who are actually bigger fans of THE BEATLES than I am and can answer some of my Fab Four questions.

Now, my next questions. While taking back to back "Magical Mystery Tours" on consecutive days in Liverpool during the summer of 2000, the tour guides claimed that John Lennon wrote "Do ...]]> Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:53:03 +0100