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Dizzy Miss Lizzy and Bad Boy
11 October 2013
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Bad Boy was referred to in another thread as being from the Past Masters CD – and of course it is; but it came as a bit of shock to me, a bit like saying that A Day In The Life is from the Blue compilation record (well, that's an exaggeration).

You Say "Bad Boy" and I'm immediately thinking "Beatles VI"!

When Beatle VI came out, I wasn't even a teenager. It wasn't clear to me that I should spend my entire allowance savings on this album. I only recognized "Eight Days A Week" and "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party" – and I already had that single (played to death, I might add). But I loved the cover (I still think it's the best picture of the four of them), and I plunked down the $2.25 or whatever a Beatle album cost at the time.

The album was disappointing. I found the songs boring – except DML and Bad Boy that I played incessantly. They were unfortunately on different sides of the album. My brother was under 10, and I teased him forever with Bad Boy ("a bad little kid moved into my neighborhood…"). The Lennon vocal on both songs is scorching a la Twist And Shout. I love the recurrent little guitar lick on DML.

The Beatles played Dizzy Miss Lizzy at the Hollywood Bowl as heard on the live record (available as an mP3?); considering how short their set was, you gotta figure they enjoyed playing it. (Paul's bass line is different on the live version.)

I didn't realize until looking these songs up just now that they are both Larry Williams songs and that they were recorded and released specifically for the American market (with DML subsequently used to finish off the British Help!).

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12 October 2013
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Both of these songs rock!!

I call my niece 'Dizzy Miss Lizzy'. I tell her that I am going to dance with her to this song on her wedding day…right after my brother dances with her to 'This Boy' (took my love awayyyyy).

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12 October 2013
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I've always TOTALLY dug both of these.Played them in bands in my younger days….as I said on another post, Dizzy Miss Lizzie is better live, a bit slower, more ballsy. I wish they'd release the Hollywood Bowl concerts on CD, I haven't heard it in years.

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12 October 2013
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Beatles VI has always been a favourite US LP for me due to its mixture of Beatles For Sale and Help! tracks. The two Williams songs are really enjoyable and fun, which is what most of their covers are, especially when loud. Tho I do enjoy the concert performances of Lizzy more due to the freeness when they played it live.

 

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12 October 2013
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I love Bad Boy.

Not a fan of Dizzy Miss Lizzy.  I'm not sure why.

12 October 2013
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I love DML but the placement of it right after Yesterday on Help! is not great, away from there it works so much better. One of the very few errors in track ordering in the whole Beatle catalogue.

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12 October 2013
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I'm not a big fan of both, but I do listen to them when I shuffle all the songs in my phone. I have to admit the guitar riffs are an hear-catcher a-hard-days-night-george-10

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13 October 2013
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meanmistermustard said

I love DML but the placement of it right after Yesterday on Help! is not great, away from there it works so much better. One of the very few errors in track ordering in the whole Beatle catalogue.

Right you are MMM . Always considered HELP! to be kind of an odd album and that's one of the reasons why IMO.

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15 October 2013
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I love both of these songs.  I sing "Bad Boy" to our puppy all the time.  Very fitting… a-hard-days-night-george-10

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15 October 2013
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HeyTrud said
I love both of these songs.  I sing "Bad Boy" to our puppy all the time.  Very fitting… a-hard-days-night-george-10

My favorite lyric in "Bad Boy," (and one of the wackiest in the entire Beatles' songbook) is "Well, he worries his teacher at night 'til she's ready to poop"… I'd think that was funny even if my wife wasn't a third grade teacher! ;-)

16 October 2013
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That's sure what it sounds like – but is that really the lyric?

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16 October 2013
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Joe gives the lyrics to cover versions over in the main site songs section, and for Bad Boy he has this as the third version:

"Buy every rock 'n' roll book on the magazine stand
Every dime that he get, ooh, is lost to the jukebox man
Well he worries his teacher till at night she's a-ready to poop
From rockin' and a-rollin', spinnin' in a hula hoop"

So it would seem to be right… though I should imagine the meaning is "pooped" as in "tired out".

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16 October 2013
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Here's a likely scenario: Larry Williams' original lyrics might have gone something like "Well he worries his teacher at night 'til she's ready to droop"… Or "…'til she's weary and pooped." And then John, much to the amusement of his fellow Beatles in the studio, snickeringly changed that lyric to "…'til she's ready to poop." That's exactly what a Bad Boy would do, isn't it? ;-)

16 October 2013
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Bungalow Bob said
Here's a likely scenario: Larry Williams' original lyrics might have gone something like "Well he worries his teacher at night 'til she's ready to droop"… Or "…'til she's weary and pooped." And then John, much to the amusement of his fellow Beatles in the studio, snickeringly changed that lyric to "…'til she's ready to poop." That's exactly what a Bad Boy would do, isn't it? ;-)

hahahaha. Love your line of thinking here, Bungalow Bob!

16 October 2013
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Lyric's the same in Larry Williams' original…

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16 October 2013
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walrusgumboot said

meanmistermustard said

I love DML but the placement of it right after Yesterday on Help! is not great, away from there it works so much better. One of the very few errors in track ordering in the whole Beatle catalogue.

Right you are MMM . Always considered HELP! to be kind of an odd album and that's one of the reasons why IMO.

For me it's more the whole 'two covers in a sea of originals' that makes it rather jarring.  With neither "That Means A Lot" nor "Wait" meeting their increasingly high songwriting standards for themselves (as well as "If You've Got Trouble" not being considered up to snuff even for Ringo's token vocal spot -- what a difference a year and a half makes  a-hard-days-night-john-7), they forced themselves to take drastic measures by choosing a brand new cover song for Ringo to sing, and reaching back for one of 2 Larry Williams covers they recorded as one-offs earlier in the year for inclusion on their bastardized American albums  a-hard-days-night-paul-11.  Interesting they chose not to use "Yes It Is" or "I'm Down" to fill the second vacancy instead.

16 October 2013
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Somewhat related, but I'm also a huge fan of the band Rush, and in 1974 there are a few bootlegs where Bad Boy was in their setlist. And in every case, they introduce the song by saying "the is one the Beatles did." It's a much heavier, bluesier version but still great.

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16 October 2013
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16 October 2013
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Bungalow Bob said, "Here's a likely scenario: Larry Williams' original lyrics might have gone something like "Well he worries his teacher at night 'til she's ready to droop"… Or "…'til she's weary and pooped." And then John, much to the amusement of his fellow Beatles in the studio, snickeringly changed that lyric to "…'til she's ready to poop." That's exactly what a Bad Boy would do, isn't it?"

VERY clever. But mja5768 found the original…

I would never have recognized the Rush version.

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16 October 2013
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
mja5768 found the original…

Who? a-hard-days-night-george-10

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