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Do you prefer Beatles originals or covers?
29 January 2011
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MeanMrs.Mustard said:

My work here is done. a-hard-days-night-george-10


Far From It. I only don't hate 2 seconds of it. You need to convince me about the other 2:51

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

29 January 2011
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Hey. I got you to admit the song has good in it. There are few songs with absolutely no good in them. (Except maybe "Wild Honey Pie.") 

:D

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29 January 2011
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I guess. Picture a Tom-Boy in Lace

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29 January 2011
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First of all, I LOVE both "Mr. Moonlight" and "I Saw Her Standing There", specially the last one. Generally, I don't care about lyrics, anyway, but its words are already fine. The important thing here is that anytime I heard this happy, powerful song, I want to stand up and dance, dance and dance! (I'm not lying).

 

So, had anyone heard the original version of "Twist and Shouts"? I think it's awful.

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29 January 2011
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The original was ruined by Phil Spector.

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29 January 2011
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The Walrus said:

The original was ruined by Phil Spector.


Are you surprised by that fact? It's Spector after all

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30 January 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

The Walrus said:

The original was ruined by Phil Spector.


Are you surprised by that fact? It's Spector after all
 

He had more hits than misses, but yeah, I wasn't surprised that the producer who ruined it was Paul McCartney's mate.
(1+1)+1=3
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30 January 2011
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The Walrus said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

The Walrus said:

The original was ruined by Phil Spector.


Are you surprised by that fact? It's Spector after all

 


He had more hits than misses, but yeah, I wasn't surprised that the producer who ruined it was Paul McCartney's mate.

(1+1)+1=3
 


Good One. How many hits did he have? I can't think of any.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

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30 January 2011
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Yeah, the Beatles cover of Twist And Shout is so much better.

WHAT?! YOU DON'T LIKE I Saw Her Standing There?!

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30 January 2011
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Mr. Sun King, you will always be in the minority regrding "I Saw Her Standing There"! Deal with it.

You can't copyright a bass line, Paul recognized a good one in "I'm Talking About You" and used it. Deal with it.

The song Berry sued Wilson for was "Surfin USA" ( he recognzied the melody of "Sweet Little 16")

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30 January 2011
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As regards the actual thread topic, both originals AND covers were hit-or-miss for the 1963 albums. But even on the first two, covers-wise, they showed greatj imagination in choosing covers, going for a mix of non-obvious hits and obscure near-hits.

I just want to play. I’d like to think I could work opposite Sinatra, B.B. King, the Beatles, or a polka band... - Jazz musician Rahsaan Roland Kirk, 1967
30 January 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

And I Don't Care. The song is unworthy of the Lennon-McCartney credit it has. I'd Rather have nothing at all


Actually, since it was on Please Please Me, it had a McCartney/Lennon credit instead. Your move. a-hard-days-night-john-6
I'm going for the originals, by far. All My Loving is brilliant. It's one of the few Paul songs that John said he liked after the Beatles broke up.
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30 January 2011
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Von, 4 Things:
1. I realize I will always be in the minority based on my opinion of I Saw Her Standing There, and that's fine by me. If You like the song, Great.
2. Plagiarism should still be pursued, because if the song had that much of a resemblance that the Bassline worked twice, It must have been similar in more than just the Bassline
3. Thanks for Clarifacation on the Berry-Wilson lawsuit
4. Calm DOWN!!!! It's just 1 Song!! Stop telling me to deal with it.

And Paulrus, Does Lennon-McCartney or McCartney-Lennon really matter?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

30 January 2011
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No, it doesn't matter. I'm only joking a-hard-days-night-john-6

For the bassline to work, it doesn't really have to be too similar. They have to have the same chord progression, but the chord progression used into those two songs is very common.

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30 January 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

The Walrus said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

The Walrus said:

The original was ruined by Phil Spector.


Are you surprised by that fact? It's Spector after all
 

He had more hits than misses, but yeah, I wasn't surprised that the producer who ruined it was Paul McCartney's mate.
 

(1+1)+1=3


Good One. How many hits did he have? I can't think of any.
 

Well, The Long And Winding Road reached number one, as did My Sweet Lord. Most users on here preferred Let It Be to Let It Be Naked in a thread, so we can add the songs from there. Spector mixed Lennon's first three albums, and he worked with the Ramones. He had 25 top 40 hits between 1960 and 1965 ffs.
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30 January 2011
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The Walrus said:

He worked with the Ramones. He had 25 top 40 hits between 1960 and 1965 ffs.

 

Really? He now has a little credibility with me. I never knew that. Thanks!


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30 January 2011
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Paulrus said:

No, it doesn't matter. I'm only joking a-hard-days-night-john-6

For the bassline to work, it doesn't really have to be too similar. They have to have the same chord progression, but the chord progression used into those two songs is very common.


A quote from Many Years From Now: I played exactly the same notes as he did and it fitted our number perfectly. Even now, when I tell people about it, I find few of them believe me. Therefore I maintain that a bass riff doesn't have to be original.

I wouldn't care if it was a variation, but he took the whole thing and it doesn't seem right to me, regardless of technical copyright shit.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

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30 January 2011
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I know the bassline is stolen, that's not what I'm saying. I meant that in response to "because if the song had that much of a resemblance that the Bassline worked twice, It must have been similar in more than just the Bassline". The bassline is stolen, you're right, but I still think it's an awesome song regardless

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30 January 2011
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Paulrus said:

I know the bassline is stolen, that's not what I'm saying. I meant that in response to "because if the song had that much of a resemblance that the Bassline worked twice, It must have been similar in more than just the Bassline". The bassline is stolen, you're right, but I still think it's an awesome song regardless


And Even if He didn't steal the Bassline, I wouldn't like the song. It just doesn't work for me.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

30 January 2011
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God, this is like the Revolution 9 thread again.

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