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Could someone tell me what this is?
29 December 2012
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The member "Strawberry" posted this video in another topic.  At first, I thought it was some kind of out-take from the Revolution #9 session.  But perhaps it's just a concoction by the guy who put it up on YouTube...?

 

 

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29 December 2012
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Has to be a concoction. Several bits of the dialogue are from the LIB sessions. "I dig a pygmy..." is the first line on that album. Since Revolution 9 was already out by the time Johnny said "I dig a pygmy by Charles Hawtree and the Deaf-Aids... Phase One, in which Doris gets her oats," it's impossible for it to be a Revolution 9 outtake.

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29 December 2012
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mja6758 said
Has to be a concoction. Several bits of the dialogue are from the LIB sessions. "I dig a pygmy..." is the first line on that album. Since Revolution 9 was already out by the time Johnny said "I dig a pygmy by Charles Hawtree and the Deaf-Aids... Phase One, in which Doris gets her oats," it's impossible for it to be a Revolution 9 outtake.

That's what I thought.  Otherwise, I was about to announce I made the stunning discovery that way back in the White Album days, John had already recorded a snippet of the "Sun King" -- it's on this video a little after the 3:00 mark.

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29 December 2012
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Tuned to a Natural E is a fan group remix hangout where folk take beatles bits, either full songs or bits and pieces, work them into something new and then post them.  Generally anything goes and there are no rules really, some fans even use non beatle tracks alongside the beatles. The results can be very good.

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30 December 2012
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meanmistermustard said
Tuned to a Natural E is a fan group remix hangout where folk take beatles bits, either full songs or bits and pieces, work them into something new and then post them.  Generally anything goes and there are no rules really, some fans even use non beatle tracks alongside the beatles. The results can be very good.

Wow, I never had any idea that existed.  Thanks for the info.

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3 January 2013
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Dunno about these groups of people f¿@#ing about with Beatles tapes and doing nothing more interesting than "rearranging" them, really, where's the point? This sounds like a mindless R#9 type Random using tapes, all available, dating from April 68 to Jan 69... "I dig a pygmy, by Charles Hawtrey on the Deaf-aids" isn't FIRST of ANYTHING though; certainly not first on any tape, album, or any other extant source. You can't even be sure if you watch the LIB movie, I'm certain that appears (tho it might have been an outtake) but even given the unreliable sequencing of the movie as released, all the bits that exist SOMEWHERE can only really be timed by looking at the clothes each person had on at a certain moment, and I date that pseudo announcement by John to 25 Jan 69. He was particularly (though claiming never to do drugs in the studio - with an opiate habit you really have little choice or you're ill. John would keep a supply of pharmaceutical opiates like Diconal, Palfium and Omnopon to hand so he never went into w/d, and they made him highly amusing and cynical. That was the Two of Us/Let it Be day, and check the clothes; they sang a verse and chorus, quite beautifully, of "Bye Bye Love" by Don/Phil Everley. The Hawtrey/Deaf-Aids announcement was recorded on that day, according to my memory. It is NOT sequenced first on the album, Spector or any other version. Look at John's eyes - they are totally pinned. He was therefore highly opiated, and before anybody claims it was the light in his eyes making his pinned pupils, Paul under the same conditions had relative saucers, so either HE was tripping or speeding (highly unlikely) John had either snorted a half gram or popped 20/30mg of one of his 'saviours'.
The point is though, what IS the point of anybody putting such a piece of Random together? Why? Random was always more of a Paul thing than a John thing, and R#9 is about the only bit he ever did that fell nicely into place (with apologies to those few souls who think that "Two Virgins" is an exercise in Random that WORKED... I beg to differ, it works only in that it delivers sound.)

3 January 2013
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Ah, forgot to answer the POINT!!
Why bother with mindless rearranging of largely meaningless snippets of conversation and fun, stoned cinversation and endless McCartney Being The Boss, of which hundreds of hours exist, when we can listen to any number of worthwhile takes of nearly 130 songs from still extant quarter and half inch tape belonging to EMI? As far as Random as a concept is concerned, 'fans' recreating, or imagining so, that idea, tend to forget that the fortuitous moments are so few you only need have both upper limbs to count them. And when it comes down to it, you can take some lyrics from 67/68, the VERY lucky fact that a production of Lear was on the new Radio 4 when they twiddled the Long Wave dial, a reprise of "She Loves You" on a live TV Show, and the extremely lucky fact that the spliced backward guitars and ESPECIALLY drums actually made the perfect sound when varispeeded; there in a nutshell is the successful Random as released by the band. Apart from the lyrics. As everyone knows, both the descending chord structure and the lyric of "Hello Goodbye" were the result of a game of word association. Knife. Fork.
Salt. Pepper. Sergeant. Malcolm. Conductor. Super. Kent. Cigarette. Paper. Daily Mail. 4000 holes. And so on. A score for an orchestra ending in a page which starts on low C and ends on high C followed by a C chord with every instrument playing as close to midnote as possible bar most brass which ends on G. Maybe the best chord in the Canon.
But back to my answer, I have no time for people who waste their time putting meaningless things together from wgat exists of tapes from Abbey Road. Only Revolution #9 worked, and that was fate more than design. As was the last verse of Yer Blues, sung into an unplugged mic and the vocal picked up by guitar pickups and drum mics...
Leave tapes alone. Let us hear them as they are.We can follow.the career so well, see quality leap almost monthly, see Ringo's drums begin to MEAN more than ever from the moment in 1966 that the mic was put inside the dampened bass drum. Rain. The Beatles. Abbey Road, the album. But do not mess with what is there.

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I agree it's rather silly and pointless to be spending so much time concocting these extravagant pastiches out of existing footage and recordings of the Beatles. 

On the other hand, I believe in artistic experimentation of any kind.  Put it out there, and if it's shit, well, people will let you know soon enough.

 

As for John's drug habit:

"John would keep a supply of pharmaceutical opiates like Diconal, Palfium and Omnopon to hand so he never went into w/d, and they made him highly amusing and cynical."

A very interesting fact came to light from a recent James Taylor interview, during which he was talking a lot about John -- mostly praising his musical genius; but he did reveal that for years in the late 70s John basically used Taylor as a "drug mule" -- everytime JT visited London, he would hook up with John, and John would ask him for some new "American drugs".

 

 

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**Poppy Nidaba said
"I dig a pygmy, by Charles Hawtrey on the Deaf-aids" isn't FIRST of ANYTHING though; certainly not first on any tape, album, or any other extant source. You can't even be sure if you watch the LIB movie, I'm certain that appears (tho it might have been an outtake) but even given the unreliable sequencing of the movie as released, all the bits that exist SOMEWHERE can only really be timed by looking at the clothes each person had on at a certain moment, and I date that pseudo announcement by John to 25 Jan 69.

I make no claims for when it was recorded, which appears to be your point, though Joe dates it to 21 January in his main entry on Two of Us. I am just saying that the original version of the LIB album opens with Two of Us, and "I Dig A Pygmy by Charles Hawtrey and the Deaf Aids. Phase one, in which Doris gets her oats," is tagged onto its beginning, making them the first words to appear on the album.

 

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6 January 2013
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It's made by The Beatles Remixers Group, on the album Tuned to a Natural E Volume 1. This is a more avant-garde track they did, but a lot of them are actually really good, I recommend them for anybody that wants a complete Beatles collection. Can someone tell me what that piano bit is from at 1:10? After he says "take 3".

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