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Can we all agree … or not?
3 February 2014
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IveJustSeenAFaceo
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parlance: That may be the first time I've ever seen Ticket To Ride listed as the greatest Beatles song. 

Ahhh Girl: That's what I did when I was building my list of Paul songs to buy, I looked at the Better Greatest Hits and the Paul Solo Songs you're on a kick of threads to build a list of what people though was the best.

I could do that, but where does it go from there?

I have an idea, but there are certain things that might hold it back. I can put all the songs in to a spreadsheet in Google Drive, then share it with anyone who's interested. Once you're done putting all of your scores in, you can save it under your Beatles Bible name and share it back with me and I can tally it 

I realize a) You may not have an email , but they're really easy to make, so that's not a huge issue. b) is a more serious issue, which is that you may not want to share your email address with anyone you don't know personally, which I totally understand. In that case, we could figure something else out. I do promise I won't send you any emails or give your address to anyone else.

So if you're interested, PM me either your email address or if you don't want to, tell me and I'll find a different way to get it to you. 

Thanks

Edit: I changed the way I'm doing it so your email doesn't have to be gmail. I'm using an Excel spreadsheet to be sent as an attachment instead of sharing a Drive file, so you can use Yahoo or Hotmail or any other email host. 

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3 February 2014
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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
parlance: That may be the first time I've ever seen Ticket To Ride listed as the greatest Beatles song. 

Not only that, but at number #1 too.

3 February 2014
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Sky999 said

IveJustSeenAFaceo said
parlance: That may be the first time I've ever seen Ticket To Ride listed as the greatest Beatles song. 

Not only that, but at number #1 too.

I know. Not sure about that. It's catchy, but it's probably somewhere in the 30-40 range for me

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4 February 2014
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All right, for our grand undertaking of determining the best Beatles song ever made, we're gonna need a lot of votes. I'm keeping entries open for the rest of February. PM me to get the voting spreadsheet, or if you have any questions. Let's get to it!

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4 February 2014
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I've just looked at IveJustSeenAFaceo's spreadsheet, and it's great – especially to the extent that we just have to grade the songs and email the spreadsheet back to him. (You'll have to PM him an email address.)

Before moving on, does any one have a better idea (i.e. one involving less work on IveJustSeenAFaceo's part?)

IveJustSeenAFaceo has the individual Abbey Road medley songs listed; I would vote for also (in addition) including the Medley as one 'song'

So this is the time to see how many people here would actually take the time. (No point doing this if only five people are interested.) Those who think they would should just chime in here.

 

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4 February 2014
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Honestly, I love the work. I'm totally fine with it like this. It's really fun for me to do.

I am interested in seeing how many people are interested in this though. I'm keeping it open for a month, so new members not here for the day we decide to do it can participate, before I finalize the scores. Scores are easy, I'm just adding to have a total amount of "points" rather than bother with averages, which I'd have to round a little at least which would create ties. 

I'll post reminders every few days, to get people to notice. I have three members who I've sent the spreadsheet to, and I've already done mine. Over the month we should get plenty of entries. 

Oh, and I've added the Medley to the end of the list on the spreadsheet. For the three that already have it you can just mention your score in the email back.

And remember if you're not comfortable sharing your email address (or don't have one) we can figure something out for that too.

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4 February 2014
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I'm in, but I'm going to have to reread and figure out how this thing works first.  Not now, though.

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4 February 2014
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Necko said
I'm in, but I'm going to have to reread and figure out how this thing works first.  Not now, though.

Pretty simple. You PM me an email address, I send a spreadsheet with every Beatles song with empty box next to each title, you type a number from 1-10 inside that box depending on your opinion of the song, then you email my back the spreadsheet and I add it to the total to come up with a consensus favorite.

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4 February 2014
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I'll go for it!a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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4 February 2014
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IveJustSeenAFaceo said
parlance: That may be the first time I've ever seen Ticket To Ride listed as the greatest Beatles song. 

… Dave Marsh--super respected rock critic--has Ticket To Ride basically tied with She Loves You as the best Beatles song.  

 

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4 February 2014
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I'm afraid I can't. Given the option to score them all 1-10. Well over a hundred would be 10 for me, another 60 or so 9 or 8, with the few remaining few being 7, 6 or 5. I personally don't see the point when you're not brutal and asking people to make choices. If there was some limit to the amount of songs you could give a particular score then I would have participated, but then you would hit the problem I had with my suggestion of "How can I only score x-number 10?" I'm afraid I just don't see the worth unless you ensure you get people's cream of the crop to begin with, and that has been written off as too difficult by some people.

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4 February 2014
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mja6758 said
I'm afraid I can't. Given the option to score them all 1-10. Well over a hundred would be 10 for me, another 60 or so 9 or 8, with the few remaining few being 7, 6 or 5. I personally don't see the point when you're not brutal and asking people to make choices. If there was some limit to the amount of songs you could give a particular score then I would have participated, but then you would hit the problem I had with my suggestion of "How can I only score x-number 10?" I'm afraid I just don't see the worth unless you ensure you get people's cream of the crop to begin with, and that has been written off as too difficult by some people.

My criteria was a 10 is a masterwork. I had three 10s. 9 is great, a classic. 8 is fantastic. 7 is very good. 6 is good. 5 is OK, anything below is bad. It worked OK

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4 February 2014
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I think you'll find many people come up with many more very high-scoring songs than you're expecting. As we have had people saying, here and in other conversations, that they would struggle to choose their top twenty, their top fifty… I do hope it works, but as I have said, I do not see how it will without a limit being placed on how many times you can use (in particular) the higher scores. I think you will find as you go on, and you get to the "tie-break" rounds, you are going to have to do that anyway.

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4 February 2014
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mja6758 said
I think you'll find many people come up with many more very high-scoring songs than you're expecting. As we have had people saying, here and in other conversations, that they would struggle to choose their top twenty, their top fifty… I do hope it works, but as I have said, I do not see how it will without a limit being placed on how many times you can use (in particular) the higher scores. I think you will find as you go on, and you get to the "tie-break" rounds, you are going to have to do that anyway.

I'm hoping they'll score them relative to the rest of the catalog, which could bring down a few scores at least. I think it'll be OK, though. I hope you decide to participate.

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4 February 2014
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I won't go into my scoring but there has to be more than 3 10's surely. 

I tried to be objective, i really did.

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4 February 2014
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IveJustSeenAFaceo
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All right, so I'm going to create a thread that outlines what we've come up with, and ask a mod to stick it and lock it so new members can know where to look. 

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4 February 2014
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I'm not as pessimistic as mja6758. I've been quite astonished by the differences of opinion on this Forum.

The idea is not to establish a Top 10 Top 20. The idea is to see how the numbers shake out.

There might be a clear demarcation somewhere and we could perhaps see a clear Top 100

For those who are statistically minded, it would be interesting to see the 'spread' of a given song.

Example: 2 songs might have the same score (say '50&#39a-hard-days-night-george-10, but one song gets to fifty because 10 people gave a 5, while another song gets to 50 because 5 people gave a 0 and 5 gave a 10. In the first case, you have consensus, in the second case you could say the song is a 'love it or hate it' song.

But to make this worthwhile, there need to be enough people. (I don't think it has to be done right away – it is time-consuming to go through each song).

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4 February 2014
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I've already got 9 people who have asked for the spreadsheet, and I've gotten 2 back, plus my own. And it's only the first day. I'm confident we'll get enough

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5 February 2014
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5 February 2014
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Mulling over my potential choices. Will request a spreadsheet when I'm further along.

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