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Beatles songs that resemble each other
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3 July 2013
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paulsbass said

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Thank you for taking your time to write, but I totally disagree on "When I Get Home" and "You Can't Do That". You see, they're both from the same album, it's both John, but the style is different. "When I Get Home" is more of a Merseybeat pop rock kind of a thing while "You Can't Do That" is more light rock n' roll and also blues-based (if you look at the chord progression). Remember I made this thread to investigate further into The Beatles catalouge to recall upon song/riff melodies sharing similarities with other Beatles and/or solo tunes; "Yes It Is" and "This Boy" doesn't share any melodic similarity from what I've heard.

Oh dear, I wish I had been true to my promise not to come here again... This time I will keep it, most probably.

As I said, YII is an ACTUAL RE-WRITE of TB!

They both have similar three part harmonies with similar chords, they are both with a swinging 6/8 feeling, they both have solo John middle parts with Paul and George doing "aaaah" in the backing vocals...

Yes It Is was later described by Lennon as a failed rewrite of This Boy. Certainly both songs share characteristics, notably the 12/8 time signature, three-part vocal harmonies and 1950s doo wop-style chord sequences.

That's me trying a rewrite of This Boy, but it didn't work.
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As for "You can't do that" and "When I get home":

How can you disagree on how I always confuse the two?!

And honestly, as a Beatles freak, I wouldn't do so if they weren't so similar, would I?

They share the same groove with the cowbell, same rhythm guitar groove, same raw John vocals...

I have NO idea what you could possibly mean with "Merseybeat pop rock" and "blues based light rock'n roll" - that is in my very humble opinion **** theory talk. John would have laughed his ass off about **** like this.

But seriously, if you deny ANY similarities between Yes it is and This Boy, why bother at all.

 

I'm sorry I showed up here against my promise.

Won't happen again.

 

Only possible exception: A thread with Paul confirming his vocal parts, me writing "Toldcha".

I'm outta here, it's just not worth the pain.

The thing is you gotta compare the melody, not the style which I can agree on. That's the only thing you misunderstood. The fact is that "You Can't Do That" and "When I Get Home" are totally different in melody. "Yes It Is" use the same elements, but John "failed" to let it have the same melody as "This Boy" - it's the same style without a doubt, yes!

"Beat musicBritish beat, or Merseybeat (for bands from Liverpool beside the River Mersey) is a pop and rock music genre that developed in the United Kingdom in the early 1960s. Beat music is a fusion of rock and rolldoo-wopskiffle and R&B. The genre provided many of the bands responsible for the British invasion of the American pop charts starting in 1964, and provided the model for many important developments in pop and rock music, including the format of the rock group around leadrhythm and bass guitars with drums." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merseybeat)

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3 July 2013
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Staying on topic, Day Tripper and Paperback Writer have a similar guitar riff. John did describe Paperback Writer as the Son of Day Tripper for a reason.

It Won't Be Long wasn't released as a single because it sounds too similar to She Loves You.

All I've Got To Do has a theme that is similar to Anytime At All, but they're not similar musically.

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3 July 2013
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thewordislove94 said
Staying on topic,
Day Tripper and Paperback Writer have a similar guitar riff. John did describe Paperback Writer as the Son of Day Tripper for a reason.

It Won't Be Long wasn't released as a single because it sounds too similar to She Loves You.

All I've Got To Do has a theme that is similar to Anytime At All, but they're not similar musically.

I never really thought about "Day Tripper" and "Paperback Writer" that way. When I play both riffs on guitar, it's a completely different pattern whereas "Day Tripper" is more riff-driven. On "It Won't Be Long" and "She Loves You", I agree, you won't hear it at first, but when you take the chorus like: "She loves you, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!", "It Won't Be Long, Yeah!, Yeah!, Yeah!" (singing with a different rhythm).

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3 July 2013
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Here's an interesting example of two songs mirroring one another musically, maybe even more of a classic case of two songs "sounding like each other" than many others in this thread:

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In the same vein is the horn part of Sgt Peppers' Lonely Hearts Club Band - the melody is very similar to Maxwell's Silver Hammer. And the "oo" section of Every Night is the same melody as the main part of You Never Give Me Your Money! The kind of thing you'd never really notice, but when someone points it out you can't unhear it. 

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4 July 2013
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Funny Paper said
Off topic on Scrubs -- I appreciate the show and I have had many moments of sheer delight while watching it; but overall, I got tired of its "vibe".  And part of this is the formula they have which seems so important to the writers/directors that they can't relax it even for one minute -- namely, the near-constant VOICE-OVER NARRATION (usually by the Zach Braff character's voice).

Another problem is that the conceit of the show -- this kind of cheeky poking fun at everything and everyone, and in the process trying to deflate everything, even plausible reality -- sometimes goes overboard into a hyperventilating, near hysterically manic atmosphere.  And then the writers think they can smooth it all over by tacking onto the end of each episode some kind of Moral of the Story where everyone is really a nice guy deep down.  I mean, this formula was entertaiing the first 1,017 times I saw it...

So I just stopped watching it, and completely missed two or three whole seasons.

 

This is pretty much why I don't watch the show.  I gave it a chance, and it failed miserably.  a-hard-days-night-john-1

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Wow I thought girls could be real bitches, but when I look at some guys on this forum, I know we got nothing on them.

Right you are.  I am done feeding this troll.

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thewordislove94 said
Staying on topic,
Day Tripper and Paperback Writer have a similar guitar riff. John did describe Paperback Writer as the Son of Day Tripper for a reason.

It Won't Be Long wasn't released as a single because it sounds too similar to She Loves You.

All I've Got To Do has a theme that is similar to Anytime At All, but they're not similar musically.

 

I've always thought there was a bit of similarity between Paperback Writer and Day Tripper. They both have that same feel you know. I prefer Day Tripper over Paperback Writer though.

5 July 2013
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The similarities between songs might have been because of the instruments used. Day Tripper and Paperback writer sounds similar because of the electric guitar used. She Said She Said and Rain might sound similar because Ringo might have used the same drum set-up.

Revolution sounds like Revolution 1 innit?

Bad Boy might have sounded like Dizzy Miss Lizzy.

The quality of recording of Old Brown Shoe, Ballad of John and Yoko sounds like the other post-Beatles stuff John wrote.

5 July 2013
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Gerell said
The similarities between songs might have been because of the instruments used.
Day Tripper and Paperback writer sounds similar because of the electric guitar used. She Said She Said and Rain might sound similar because Ringo might have used the same drum set-up.

Revolution sounds like Revolution 1 innit?

Bad Boy might have sounded like Dizzy Miss Lizzy.

The quality of recording of Old Brown Shoe, Ballad of John and Yoko sounds like the other post-Beatles stuff John wrote.

I was talking about melodic similarities not style. However, "Revolution 1" and "Revolution" is basically the same song, just different takes (and key) so I wouldn't call that a comparison between songs while it being different versions of the song itself.

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8 July 2013
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Every time I hear the beginning of "Sun King", before they start sining, the guitar part sounds to me like the tune of "Don't Let Me Down".

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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When I was really young before I listened to a majority of the Beatles songs, I used to think that a bunch of the songs on A Hard Day's Night, espicially on the second side of the album sounded the same. But I was young so yeah.

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2 September 2013
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When I Get Home and A Hard Day's Night have the same story 

2 September 2013
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Momma Miss America from McCartney is pretty close to Why Don't We Do It In The Road?.

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