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"And Your Bird Can Sing" and Frank Sinatra???
22 July 2013
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WhereArtEsteban
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-is this a BS rumor? I feel like the song makes plenty sense if directed at Sinatra (but its certainly not clear) and could even explain the giggle track to a degree. 

I can also imagine John not wanting to admit sneaking in a Sinatra-bashing song onto Revolver in his later years when he had calmed down considerably and called the song a "horror" to avoid talking about it.

Speculationmuch?

Either way its one of my favorites (DAT BASS man)a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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22 July 2013
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I remember a post like this, talking about 'Ol Blue Eyes' bird, nevertheless that Anthology version of And Your Bird Can Sing is epic. Who could play those bass lines while laughing? Then again, it's Paul.

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22 July 2013
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this might be my favorite song, at least in the last few months.

my interpretation of the song is that john is saying that people have riches and things but are not truly fulfilled or understand life.

"you tell me that you've heard every sound there is, And Your Bird Can Sing but you don't get me..."

"when your bird is broken will it bring you down? you may be awoken. i'll be round ill be round..."

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22 July 2013
4.37pm
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The bass playing is fun to listen to, though it seems Paul makes a few mistakes here and there.  I think if Paul had a chance to re-record the song as obsessively as he did with later songs -- example the White Album, where just to pick one example, he re-recorded "I Will" 67 times!!! before he felt he got it right -- Paul would have ironed out the kinks and perfected it.

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22 July 2013
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Gerell said

I remember a post like this, talking about 'Ol Blue Eyes' bird, nevertheless that Anthology version of And Your Bird Can Sing is epic. Who could play those bass lines while laughing? Then again, it's Paul.

Well, his bass and vocals (& giggles) wouldn't have been recorded at the same time, so it's not certain that even Paul could've managed that laughing-while-playing feat!

As for the Sinatra rumour, I really don't believe it at all; I think it's just the product of Jonathan Gould's overactive imagination. If he had a credible source to back this up, he didn't mention it in his book "Can't Buy Me Love". And without that source, we only have John's word; and the only thing he said about the song was "another horror". And I don't buy the argument that he refused to admit the song was about Sinatra because he'd "calmed down considerably". "Sexy Sadie" and "How Do You Sleep?" were both character assassinations written while he was very angry with their subjects. And years later, when his anger faded, he downplayed the anger in the songs and claimed that he was partly joking; but he did not deny that the songs were about the Maharishi and Paul McCartney, respectively. So I don't see why he would be coy and give Sinatra special consideration, rather than just saying "Oh that was just a stupid song, it was for Frank Sinatra - just a joke, really."

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22 July 2013
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If that Gould interpretation is correct -- about Sinatra, and Sinatra's reference to his privy member as a "bird" -- then that line "And your bird can swing" is quite ingenious, for it would be a quadruple-entendre:

1) a play on "sing" of course

2) "swing" as in dangle like a long dong (not to put too fine of a point on it)

3) "swing" in the sense of the slang term "having sex with many partners along with your wife" (which apparently Frank boasted about)

4) "swing" as in the swing music of the Big Band era, of which Frank was the king.

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22 July 2013
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I've always thought, if about anyone, Mick Jagger (who was going out with Marianne Faithful) was a much more likely suspect.

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23 July 2013
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Those are some nice observations, FP! At least as far as the "...swing" verse is concerned.

As for the rest of the song...let's just say that if Sinatra indeed possesses a green pecker that is broken and can sing, I DON'T WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT!! :(

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23 July 2013
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mja6758 said
I've always thought, if about anyone, Mick Jagger (who was going out with Marianne Faithful) was a much more likely suspect.

 

I've always thought so too and I've read that in a lot of places as well.

23 July 2013
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^^ Yeah, me too. In fact, I even thought that there wasn't much, if any, doubt about what (or rather who) it was about.

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23 July 2013
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Me neither. Actually I was a bit surprised to see this topic.

Anyway, I think John wouldn't have denied it if it really was about Sinatra. I think we would've known.

24 July 2013
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Did John or Paul ever have occasion to meet Frank at all, I wonder?

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24 July 2013
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Another song in pop history that is a critical jab at someone famous was Carly Simon's "You're So Vain".  Many people thought she was referring to Mick Jagger -- but actually, it turns out she was referring to actor Warren Beatty.

(In fact, Mick Jagger is singing back up vocals on her song!)

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24 July 2013
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WhereArtEsteban
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You're probably right that John wouldn't have left out that it was about Frank, but I'd really like to know what specifically about it he hated so much?!

I honestly don't even remember who told me about the Frank Sinatra thing, but for some reason I was thinking about it...

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24 July 2013
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I always thought it was a dig at Bob Dylan... who's bird was Joan Baez.

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