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13 June 2013
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1. Which early Beatles song sounds the most like a late Beatles song?

and vice versa:

2. Which late Beatles song sounds the most like an early Beatles song?

Note: definition of "early" and "late" I'm sure will generate some disagreements.  Part of the problem is that there seems to be a definable "middle period" between the two eras, phasing out of the early and into the later.

Anyway, my definition for "early" would include Rubber Soul, but no later.  Then "later" would be anything after that.

 

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13 June 2013
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Interesting idea! The first thing that sprang to mind was Because having a lot in common with Yes It Is; not that they SOUND particularly alike but they both employ winding three-part harmony to create a beautiful but slightly creepy element.

Other than that... Yesterday/Blackbird? Can't think of many others, though I'm sure some others will. Of course this highlights one of the most amazing and unmatched elements of the Beatles' music: everything is different, every song standing alone as an original and distinct article that demands attention in its own right, their music always changing and developing from album to album.

 

 

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13 June 2013
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Well 'One After 909' is the first one that comes to me but, does that count?

'Here, There and Everywhere' reminds me of some of their earlier love-esque songs, but not one in particular.

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13 June 2013
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Hello Goodbye sounds like an earlier song because it's commercial. Finding an early song that sounds like a later one is harder. Yesterday is a timeless song, but I guess it would sound ok with Let it Be or The Long And Winding Road.

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14 June 2013
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Ben Ramon said
Interesting idea! The first thing that sprang to mind was Because having a lot in common with Yes It Is; not that they SOUND particularly alike but they both employ winding three-part harmony to create a beautiful but slightly creepy element.

Other than that... Yesterday/Blackbird? Can't think of many others, though I'm sure some others will. Of course this highlights one of the most amazing and unmatched elements of the Beatles' music: everything is different, every song standing alone as an original and distinct article that demands attention in its own right, their music always changing and developing from album to album.

 

 

Thanks Ben.  I can't think of any either, yet.  I wouldn't say Yesterday/Blackbird -- as the latter always struck me as quite innovative for a 60s band to do (deceptively ordinary folk).  Yesterday, possibly...

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14 June 2013
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fabfouremily said
Well 'One After 909' is the first one that comes to me but, does that count?

'Here, There and Everywhere' reminds me of some of their earlier love-esque songs, but not one in particular.

Yes, 'Here, There and Everywhere' is pretty close -- though maybe it's "cheating" because it came so early in the late period...

 

 

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14 June 2013
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thewordislove94 said
Hello Goodbye sounds like an earlier song because it's commercial. Finding an early song that sounds like a later one is harder. Yesterday is a timeless song, but I guess it would sound ok with Let it Be or The Long And Winding Road.

I have to disagree about Hello Goodbye -- to me it sounds remarkably unique for that time period (sort of in the same unique category as Penny Lane).  In fact, those two would be unique in any time period, I think.  That's not to say it doesn't have a kind of 60s feel to it...

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14 June 2013
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I think For No One could get by as a LATE Beatles song if had strings or flowy Harrison guitar on it. As for an early Beatles song, I think. Also, When I'm 64 could get by as the other, since it was written long before 1967, and was sped up.

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14 June 2013
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"Not A Second Time"

I always liked that song.; most of you on the Forum don't. I think it's partly because it doesn't fit the rest of the album. It's essentially Lennon playing the piano by himself. (Same problem with "Yesterday" a couple of years later. Just Paul on the guitar without the other guys, and therefore slotted at #13 on the Help! album.)

Released during the later years, Lennon would have given us lyrics with more gravitas or more psychedelia, and a more sophisticated arrangement.

In fact, from a musical point of view it's not too dissimilar to "Imagine" (to the extent that it's a piano-based Lennon song).

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14 June 2013
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I think Things We Said Today was pretty mature for the time Paul wrote it, and maybe could have fit in a later album with some minor changes

14 June 2013
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You might have thought of a unique topic, Funny Paper, but you failed to come up with a good topic name. a-hard-days-night-george-10

 

I think Old Brown Shoe sounds like their earlier stuff. It cut couldn't fit on any of their earlier albums, though, I don't think. 

And I agree with sinco about Things We Said Today

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14 June 2013
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I always thought "Birthday" sounded like it could be an older song...  

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

15 June 2013
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I think we have a winner!  Old Brown Shoe does sound remarkably like an earlier song, and it comes so late.

I have to disagree on Not A Second Time -- it sounds quintessentially early-early.  As for Things We Said Today, it's certainly more sophisticated than their I Wanna Hold Your Hand days, but the Help! period had quite a few like that. 

Maybe my whole concept breaks down, because it's hard to demarcate that "middle phase" where they were moving out of the early and moving into the later.  So Things We Said Today I think, at any rate, would be part of (and at the early stage of) that long process during which the Beatles were "evolving".

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15 June 2013
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I don't understand why 'Old Brown Shoe' is the ''winner''. It doesn't sound very early to me at all. Definitely no earlier than 1965, imo (which I count as later).

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15 June 2013
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On another note, to me "Things We Said Today" sounds like it could be on Rubber Soul..

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

15 June 2013
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^ Yeah, I've alwalys thought that, too. When I first got into these guys, I used to get 'TWST' and 'You Won't See Me' mixed up.

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15 June 2013
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The music to "The Ballad Of John And Yoko" has that early sixties style/beat. Had the subject matter/topic been different, I could hear it included on  either Beatles For Sale or HELP!

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15 June 2013
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I think that John and Paul took the music from "Lonesome Tears in My Eyes" because I was listening to the Beatles cover version on Live At The BBC, and it sounds similar.

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16 June 2013
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fabfouremily said
I don't understand why 'Old Brown Shoe' is the ''winner''. It doesn't sound very early to me at all. Definitely no earlier than 1965, imo (which I count as later).

 

This. 

What are everyone's definitions of ''early'' and '''late'' though? 'Cause I'm seeing a lot of different opinions on that. To me, everything after Help is late.

16 June 2013
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I always split the beatles into three 3; up to Help; Rubber Soul thru to Pepper; Lady Madonna/The Beatles onwards - tho its never that simple when analysed further. I suppose i'd say late was, erm, well they really grew up and matured on Rubber Soul i suppose but it doesnt feel right typing that so maybe Revolver - or Pepper.

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