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A day in the life - Paul or John?
5 January 2011
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First, welcome to the forum. a-hard-days-night-george-9

Second, I had my doubts too until I realized that Paul McCartney and Yoko Ono approved of a Beatles Rock Rand that shows John singing the ahs. Their lawyers were all over it. ADitL is not a minor song. It wouldn't have gone unnoticed.

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Why is it that everyone thinks Sgt. Pepper's is Paul's album? As far as I am concerned, this is a group effort. There is no way the aahhs in 'A Day In The Life' are Mccartney's. John's voice makes that whole song. I have a George Martin interview where he say's when he hears John's vocals on that song, it send chills up his spine.

For those of you who have not read my comments I posted on the album site for Sgt. Pepper, here you go:

I just finished reading all the posts regarding this album and cannot believe how many posts there are claiming this is McCartney's album. They were all very talented in their own way. Without all four of them participating during the Sgt. Pepper recording sessions, this album would not sounded as good as it turned out.

I am so tired of hearing Paul this and Paul that. They are all great songwriters and musicians. The Beatles are the Beatles and that is why their solo efforts will never measure up to the group efforts.

 

 

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5 January 2011
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All my life I just assumed the ahs belonged to John and I am not ready to give in and say they are all Paul. But for months now this discussion really made me listen closer to them. While I still can't tell (and therefore have no reason to think they are not all John) I would not be at all surprised if the following is true. Bear with me.

When you listen with headphones, you will notice that Paul's "woke up, got outta bed" part ends in one ear and the ahs begin in that same ear. All of a sudden they start to go from one ear to the other. That is the ear in which we hear John's voice pick up again with "I read the news today oh boy". Wouldn't it be cool if the ahs belonged to both, starting with Paul and ending with John?

At the very least it would provide a compromise that would end this discussion once and for all.

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5 January 2011
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Speaking of ADITL, I listened to it when I was doing my morning walk, and I believe it's John.

 

About Paul's album... maybe because he got the main concept and John and George and Ringo were later like "mhew" about it? a-hard-days-night-ringo-5a-hard-days-night-john-4a-hard-days-night-george-5

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Zig said:

All my life I just assumed the ahs belonged to John and I am not ready to give in and say they are all Paul. But for months now this discussion really made me listen closer to them. While I still can't tell (and therefore have no reason to think they are not all John) I would not be at all surprised if the following is true. Bear with me.

When you listen with headphones, you will notice that Paul's "woke up, got outta bed" part ends in one ear and the ahs begin in that same ear. All of a sudden they start to go from one ear to the other. That is the ear in which we hear John's voice pick up again with "I read the news today oh boy". Wouldn't it be cool if the ahs belonged to both, starting with Paul and ending with John?

At the very least it would provide a compromise that would end this discussion once and for all.


Haven't compared the "Woke up..." and "I read..." bits and their respective places in the stereo spectrum, but otherwise Zig's impressions are OTM with my own: I was sure it was John, gave many close listenings, and now am like 70% sure the "aahhhs" are shared, with the precise identities blurred via the stereo panning.

"Nice" to see this thread pop up again - it's been a coupla months!

Also, welcome George Demake! I recognize your name from some of the article comments. (I might even have argued with you once or twice, haha! Can't recall for sure.)

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5 January 2011
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Zig said:

All my life I just assumed the ahs belonged to John and I am not ready to give in and say they are all Paul. But for months now this discussion really made me listen closer to them. While I still can't tell (and therefore have no reason to think they are not all John) I would not be at all surprised if the following is true. Bear with me.

When you listen with headphones, you will notice that Paul's "woke up, got outta bed" part ends in one ear and the ahs begin in that same ear. All of a sudden they start to go from one ear to the other. That is the ear in which we hear John's voice pick up again with "I read the news today oh boy". Wouldn't it be cool if the ahs belonged to both, starting with Paul and ending with John?

At the very least it would provide a compromise that would end this discussion once and for all.


I did this holding my hands on my speakers, and you're right those "aaahs" come from the same speaker I get the "woke up". But the first "aahh" sounds so John…. the second ones.. not that much. So, if the "aahs" were done by both, I'd say the first ones by John and the second ones by Paul.
 

Now, I have no idea about engineering but that's what I like about being a Beatle fan, that you can learn. If you listen from one speaker the voice, does that mean that it's both mics were recorded in the same track, or they edited both tracks so you could listen them in the same speaker, or Paul and John were sharing the same mic? a-hard-days-night-john-7a-hard-days-night-paul-10

 

And the captchas tell me I might be right. 9!!

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5 January 2011
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Whenever I listen to it, it sounds like John, but I don't pay attention to who's singing a lot of the time.

5 January 2011
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*gasps* 

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5 January 2011
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Believe me...a-hard-days-night-ringo-7 it's John...a-hard-days-night-john-2

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6 January 2011
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We should organize a session with a psychic and John, and then ask him. a-hard-days-night-john-1

 

But if John from the afterlife ever talks to me, I'd have a heart attack after peeing myself. a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

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22 January 2011
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I now think the ah's are definitley John.  One reason is that in Emerick's book, he says John is singing the 'ah's and he didn't even like Lennon that much.  Another is Rockband, which Paul and Ringo went through for accuracy  and in Rockband, it is John singing the Ah's part, it plainly shows John singing and McCartney at the piano with his mouth closed while John is doing it.  if Paul had sung them, then he would have spoken up about it, which he didn't.  I also read somewhere else that someone had heard a bootleg of the vocal track alone but without all the reverb and echo they later put on it and he says it is clearly John singing.

 

Here is a youtube video that has Emerick said on it

 

If Paul had sung it, that would mean Paul himself had forgotten while looking at Rockband and it would mean Emerick himself has forgotten who sung it, even though he was the one behind the console, so that looks very unlikely.a-hard-days-night-john-2

22 January 2011
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I'm glad you provided links to explain what accuracy means. I never would have known.

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22 January 2011
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I'm sincerely thankful for this. apple01

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22 January 2011
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mithveaen said:

We should organize a session with a psychic and John, and then ask him. a-hard-days-night-john-1

 

But if John from the afterlife ever talks to me, I'd have a heart attack after peeing myself. a-hard-days-night-ringo-12


He supposedly came over a friend's Ouija Board when we were in high school hanging out and he was quite angry with us.
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22 January 2011
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paulsbass said:

 

Well, it's really obvious that Rockband is not accurate in EVERY aspect (just a very obvious one: George playing the solo in WMGGW).


There's a difference, though. I mean, it also shows Ringo playing on "Back In The USSR" and George playing on "Ticket To Ride," as well as other songs where Paul plays lead guitar. It's kind of obvious why Rock Band George plays on "While My Guitar..." and Rock Band Ringo plays on "USSR." I'm not sure about the Paul guitar songs, (maybe because non-hardcore Beatles fans would be confused?) but other than those cases, Rock Band was accurate about who played, and especially who sang. I mean, they ran it past Paul and Ringo. 

Seriously, can't we just let this thread die? I get nervous when I see it on the "unread posts" list. 

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22 January 2011
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MeanMrs.Mustard said:

paulsbass said:

 

Well, it's really obvious that Rockband is not accurate in EVERY aspect (just a very obvious one: George playing the solo in WMGGW).


There's a difference, though. I mean, it also shows Ringo playing on "Back In The USSR" and George playing on "Ticket To Ride," as well as other songs where Paul plays lead guitar. It's kind of obvious why Rock Band George plays on "While My Guitar…" and Rock Band Ringo plays on "USSR." I'm not sure about the Paul guitar songs, (maybe because non-hardcore Beatles fans would be confused?) but other than those cases, Rock Band was accurate about who played, and especially who sang. I mean, they ran it past Paul and Ringo. 
Seriously, can't we just let this thread die? I get nervous when I see it on the "unread posts" list. 

Also Rock Band is more accurate than you might think. Sure George plays the solo on WMGGW and Ringo plays on Back In The USSR, but these inaccuracies were kept in for a particular reason, to keep the band as a whole without extras. When it comes to other details like who sang on a song or who's playing bass (in the studio at least) Rock band is accurate. If you look at the dreamscapes for Helter Skelter, Birthday and Golden Slumbers it is John or George playing bass like how they recorded.

ps sorry for keeping this thread going

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I also think rock band is quite right, it shows george even switching from bass to guitar during maxwell because he played both (john plays rythm guitar on rock band although John didn't play on maxwell and I don't know if maxwell even has a rythm guitar during the chorus). Anyway I think that aah part was sung by paul, it always sounded like paul for me and my whole family says it sounds like paul, but who cares, all thing that matters is that the song is nice (although I'm not the biggest fan of A Day In The Life)

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To me it sounds like John, there, since everyone on this board have their post in this topic xD. I don't really see how this can be Paul.

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MeanMrsMustard said
Pterodactyl awoke the Thread of Doom! a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

Thread of Doom: Round 3! paul-mccartney

*gasp* itwasjohn *gasp* xD

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Long John Silver said
To me it sounds like John, there, since everyone on this board have their post in this topic xD. I don't really see how this can be Paul.

Perhaps I can give my opinion as well a-hard-days-night-paul-10 I din't even know a thread like this existed, it's crazy

I didn't have a preconceived opinion upon hearing A Day In The Life for the first time-I just knew the middle part was Paul's and rest of the verses John's. It would be quite natural to think that Paul would continue singing from "somebody spoke and I went into a dream...", right? But I immediately thought, "ahh, it's John now. I guess he has implied that the sleepy morning person has entered a dream or another universe now"

And when I listened to the isolated track version, I thought that in the beginning it does sound like Paul, perhaps because of the "chest" thing that Paulsbass has mentioned so often in this thread, but after that, John's voice took over. Now, I don't have much theoretical knowledge about recording songs, but could it be possible that John and Paul shared the shame mic for that part, Paul coming stronger in the beginning and then John taking the lead? Even if Paul was meant to be the lead, it doesn't matter if in the end John was the one whose voice was more prominent

However, in the multitrack isolated version it sounds like John all the way through, with Paul singing in the background. How do I know it? His backing vocals sound like forced falsetto, the kind of sound you would expect from a man who normally has a deep voice. ahdn_paul_02I do know that Paul is supposed to be a tenor, but I think he we all agree that Paul's is the deepest tenor voice there can be! So, when John does falsetto parts it comes very naturally from him, it's hard to notice when he switches his register, but for Paul the change is always very audible. For example, in Helter Skelter, his shrill "Look out! Helter Skelter!" is distinctively different from rest of the shouting. Another example is Hey Jude, when he sings the higher notes( ("NanaNAAna"), it sounds extremely forced. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just making an observation about his singing style. I also think his backing vocals on A Day In The Life sounds very similar to the way he sings in My Love.

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