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A day in the life - Paul or John?
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5 January 2011
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First, welcome to the forum. a-hard-days-night-george-9

Second, I had my doubts too until I realized that Paul McCartney and Yoko Ono approved of a Beatles Rock Rand that shows John singing the ahs. Their lawyers were all over it. ADitL is not a minor song. It wouldn't have gone unnoticed.

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5 January 2011
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Why is it that everyone thinks Sgt. Pepper's is Paul's album? As far as I am concerned, this is a group effort. There is no way the aahhs in 'A Day In The Life' are Mccartney's. John's voice makes that whole song. I have a George Martin interview where he say's when he hears John's vocals on that song, it send chills up his spine.

For those of you who have not read my comments I posted on the album site for Sgt. Pepper, here you go:

I just finished reading all the posts regarding this album and cannot believe how many posts there are claiming this is McCartney's album. They were all very talented in their own way. Without all four of them participating during the Sgt. Pepper recording sessions, this album would not sounded as good as it turned out.

I am so tired of hearing Paul this and Paul that. They are all great songwriters and musicians. The Beatles are the Beatles and that is why their solo efforts will never measure up to the group efforts.

 

 

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Zig said:

All my life I just assumed the ahs belonged to John and I am not ready to give in and say they are all Paul. But for months now this discussion really made me listen closer to them. While I still can't tell (and therefore have no reason to think they are not all John) I would not be at all surprised if the following is true. Bear with me.

When you listen with headphones, you will notice that Paul's "woke up, got outta bed" part ends in one ear and the ahs begin in that same ear. All of a sudden they start to go from one ear to the other. That is the ear in which we hear John's voice pick up again with "I read the news today oh boy". Wouldn't it be cool if the ahs belonged to both, starting with Paul and ending with John?

At the very least it would provide a compromise that would end this discussion once and for all.


Haven't compared the "Woke up..." and "I read..." bits and their respective places in the stereo spectrum, but otherwise Zig's impressions are OTM with my own: I was sure it was John, gave many close listenings, and now am like 70% sure the "aahhhs" are shared, with the precise identities blurred via the stereo panning.

"Nice" to see this thread pop up again - it's been a coupla months!

Also, welcome George Demake! I recognize your name from some of the article comments. (I might even have argued with you once or twice, haha! Can't recall for sure.)

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Zig said:

All my life I just assumed the ahs belonged to John and I am not ready to give in and say they are all Paul. But for months now this discussion really made me listen closer to them. While I still can't tell (and therefore have no reason to think they are not all John) I would not be at all surprised if the following is true. Bear with me.

When you listen with headphones, you will notice that Paul's "woke up, got outta bed" part ends in one ear and the ahs begin in that same ear. All of a sudden they start to go from one ear to the other. That is the ear in which we hear John's voice pick up again with "I read the news today oh boy". Wouldn't it be cool if the ahs belonged to both, starting with Paul and ending with John?

At the very least it would provide a compromise that would end this discussion once and for all.


I did this holding my hands on my speakers, and you're right those "aaahs" come from the same speaker I get the "woke up". But the first "aahh" sounds so John…. the second ones.. not that much. So, if the "aahs" were done by both, I'd say the first ones by John and the second ones by Paul.
 

Now, I have no idea about engineering but that's what I like about being a Beatle fan, that you can learn. If you listen from one speaker the voice, does that mean that it's both mics were recorded in the same track, or they edited both tracks so you could listen them in the same speaker, or Paul and John were sharing the same mic? a-hard-days-night-john-7a-hard-days-night-paul-10

 

And the captchas tell me I might be right. 9!!

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I now think the ah's are definitley John.  One reason is that in Emerick's book, he says John is singing the 'ah's and he didn't even like Lennon that much.  Another is Rockband, which Paul and Ringo went through for accuracy  and in Rockband, it is John singing the Ah's part, it plainly shows John singing and McCartney at the piano with his mouth closed while John is doing it.  if Paul had sung them, then he would have spoken up about it, which he didn't.  I also read somewhere else that someone had heard a bootleg of the vocal track alone but without all the reverb and echo they later put on it and he says it is clearly John singing.

 

Here is a youtube video that has Emerick said on it

 

If Paul had sung it, that would mean Paul himself had forgotten while looking at Rockband and it would mean Emerick himself has forgotten who sung it, even though he was the one behind the console, so that looks very unlikely.a-hard-days-night-john-2

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paulsbass said:

 

Well, it's really obvious that Rockband is not accurate in EVERY aspect (just a very obvious one: George playing the solo in WMGGW).


There's a difference, though. I mean, it also shows Ringo playing on "
Back In The USSR" and George playing on "Ticket To Ride," as well as other songs where Paul plays lead guitar. It's kind of obvious why Rock Band George plays on "While My Guitar..." and Rock Band Ringo plays on "USSR." I'm not sure about the Paul guitar songs, (maybe because non-hardcore Beatles fans would be confused?) but other than those cases, Rock Band was accurate about who played, and especially who sang. I mean, they ran it past Paul and Ringo. 

Seriously, can't we just let this thread die? I get nervous when I see it on the "unread posts" list. 

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

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MeanMrs.Mustard said:

paulsbass said:

 

Well, it's really obvious that Rockband is not accurate in EVERY aspect (just a very obvious one: George playing the solo in WMGGW).


There's a difference, though. I mean, it also shows Ringo playing on "
Back In The USSR" and George playing on "Ticket To Ride," as well as other songs where Paul plays lead guitar. It's kind of obvious why Rock Band George plays on "While My Guitar…" and Rock Band Ringo plays on "USSR." I'm not sure about the Paul guitar songs, (maybe because non-hardcore Beatles fans would be confused?) but other than those cases, Rock Band was accurate about who played, and especially who sang. I mean, they ran it past Paul and Ringo. 
Seriously, can't we just let this thread die? I get nervous when I see it on the "unread posts" list. 

Also Rock Band is more accurate than you might think. Sure George plays the solo on WMGGW and Ringo plays on Back In The USSR, but these inaccuracies were kept in for a particular reason, to keep the band as a whole without extras. When it comes to other details like who sang on a song or who's playing bass (in the studio at least) Rock band is accurate. If you look at the dreamscapes for Helter Skelter, Birthday and Golden Slumbers it is John or George playing bass like how they recorded.

ps sorry for keeping this thread going

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