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A day in the life - Paul or John?
10 July 2010
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Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say Paul has been respected too much or too little. I respect Paul (scratch that, I ADORE Paul), but I still think John sang the "Aaah"s you hear on the Pepper and LOVE mixes. You can respect someone without thinking s/he sang/did everything.

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

10 July 2010
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If you go over to Plain or Pan you can download the "master tapes" of ADitL. The track you want to listen to is 13 ADITL – 1, with the vocals isolated.  It sounds like John with someone else doing other sounds in the back ground.

I'm not sure if it's real or not, but I'm pretty the person pulling the song apart wasn't interested in this argument, so no bias here.

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10 July 2010
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skye said:

If you go over to Plain or Pan you can download the "master tapes" of ADitL. The track you want to listen to is 13 ADITL – 1, with the vocals isolated.  It sounds like John with someone else doing other sounds in the back ground.

I'm not sure if it's real or not, but I'm pretty the person pulling the song apart wasn't interested in this argument, so no bias here.


it's definitely john. You can tell because His voice specifically was purposely echoed and reverb and it's used heavily with the "Aaahs"
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10 July 2010
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Wow.  Just read through this entire thread, and what's amazing, as someone else pointed out many MANY posts ago, is that a 10 to 15 second stretch of vocals from a pop song from over 40 years ago would inspire so much passion, intelligence (sometimes), and vigorous debate.  Of course, as we know, it's not just any pop song, and not just any group, and not just any album.

 

I've always thought of this song as really the crowning achievement of their crowning achievement – the toppermost of the poppermost – and actually the fact that we don't know (or, okay, we disagree) about who sang this part is in fact amazingly heartening to me.  Here's why:

 

I have two daughters, 6 and 10, and we listen to the Beatles all the time in the car.  They are always asking, "Which one is that?  Is that Paul?  George?  John?  Ringo?"  At those ages, they are very focused on the individual's contribution to the group.  And no matter how many times I try to explain the group's greatness stemmed from all four guys' contributions, they are still fixated on the individual singer.  I don't blame them – like many here, I have gone through "John phases" and "Paul phases" and "George phases" and even "Ringo phases" where I am convinced that that guy (whichever) was the genius that really made the group what it was. 

But isn't it so obvious?  It's all of them.  It's the greatest band because they were THE BEATLES.  John, bless his soul, decided Paul should join his band – but he didn't want it to be his band, Johnny and the Moondogs or Long John Silver or any of that – he recognized that what he wanted to give the world was a COLLECTIVE sound, not a lead singer and a backup group. They were just a band, who made it very very big, that's all.

I love that I now no longer know who sang that vocal section.  (I'd always assumed it was John, but after the argument here, I have gone back to the original and the vocal track, and while it still sounds like John to me, and I buy Emerick's account, I also concede that I am not a trained musician, and that Paulbass could well be right, and if you listen to it assuming it's Paul – which logically does make sense – it's easy to conclude it IS Paul).  But again – we don't know.  And that's the best thing of all.  All we know, as my six year old daughter finally said the other day when "Here Comes The Sun" came on, is: "It's the Beatles!  It doesn't matter which one!"

"We were just a band, who made it very very big, that's all."
10 July 2010
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RufusWild said:

 

RufusWild said:

Wow.  Just read through this entire thread, and what's amazing, as someone else pointed out many MANY posts ago, is that a 10 to 15 second stretch of vocals from a pop song from over 40 years ago would inspire so much passion, intelligence (sometimes), and vigorous debate.  Of course, as we know, it's not just any pop song, and not just any group, and not just any album.

 

I've always thought of this song as really the crowning achievement of their crowning achievement – the toppermost of the poppermost – and actually the fact that we don't know (or, okay, we disagree) about who sang this part is in fact amazingly heartening to me.  Here's why:

 

I have two daughters, 6 and 10, and we listen to the Beatles all the time in the car.  They are always asking, "Which one is that?  Is that Paul?  George?  John?  Ringo?"  At those ages, they are very focused on the individual's contribution to the group.  And no matter how many times I try to explain the group's greatness stemmed from all four guys' contributions, they are still fixated on the individual singer.  I don't blame them – like many here, I have gone through "John phases" and "Paul phases" and "George phases" and even "Ringo phases" where I am convinced that that guy (whichever) was the genius that really made the group what it was. 

But isn't it so obvious?  It's all of them.  It's the greatest band because they were THE BEATLES.  John, bless his soul, decided Paul should join his band – but he didn't want it to be his band, Johnny and the Moondogs or Long John Silver or any of that – he recognized that what he wanted to give the world was a COLLECTIVE sound, not a lead singer and a backup group. They were just a band, who made it very very big, that's all.

I love that I now no longer know who sang that vocal section.  (I'd always assumed it was John, but after the argument here, I have gone back to the original and the vocal track, and while it still sounds like John to me, and I buy Emerick's account, I also concede that I am not a trained musician, and that Paulbass could well be right, and if you listen to it assuming it's Paul – which logically does make sense – it's easy to conclude it IS Paul).  But again – we don't know.  And that's the best thing of all.  All we know, as my six year old daughter finally said the other day when "Here Comes The Sun" came on, is: "It's the Beatles!  It doesn't matter which one!"


Exactly. It doesn't matter, but it's still the truth. To me, John sang it.
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11 July 2010
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11 July 2010
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A Fiendish Thingy said:

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14 July 2010
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Hey, paulsbass, guess what! Paul DID sing the "Aah"s -- in concert!

Muahahaha. I can be wicked sometimes, can't I? ;)

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14 July 2010
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It WAS a great show. I'll probably still be talking about it when I'm as old as Paul is now! For some perspective, I'm about as old as George was when he got into the Quarry Men. 

I think his voice sounded great. 

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9 August 2010
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It was George, John, and Paul.

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10 August 2010
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No matter how matter times I hear it, I'm still staggered by John's voice in this song. And I don't think paulsbass will give up that easily, so this debate could just keep going on and on and on and on…and on.

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10 August 2010
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I say John. No doubt.

I'd like to say "thank you" on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition. John Lennon
10 August 2010
1.43pm
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I just listened to the multitrack masters… To me, now, that sounds like Paul, without a doubt

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10 August 2010
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Paulrus said:

I just listened to the multitrack masters… To me, now, that sounds like Paul, without a doubt


Awww! Come on! Be serious! brian-epstein
 

My reconstruction (TV documental style):

(Abbey Road, night, "A Day In The Life" sessions. John is rehearsing his part with his Epiphone Casino(TM), Paul is in the piano (Yes, inside the piano, for acoustic reasons), and ask in a mild voice)

P: Hey, John, can I do the Ahhhs?

J: No! you can't fucking do the Ahhhs!

P: Bloody moustache face! Four eyes! Ouch! (he angrly shut himself inside the piano and the lid knock him out)

(some time later, he open the lid and says)

P: Hey, when I pass out, I had a weird dream about a girl called Lucy in some kind kind of sky that contains a sort of precious stones, good idea for a song! Right?

J: I already wrote it, you idiot!

I'd like to say "thank you" on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition. John Lennon
10 August 2010
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You're BOTH wrong, as far as the "no doubt" part goes!

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10 August 2010
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vonbontee said:

You're BOTH wrong, as far as the "no doubt" part goes!


a-hard-days-night-ringo-4 What?
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10 August 2010
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MrBig said:

vonbontee said:

You're BOTH wrong, as far as the "no doubt" part goes!


a-hard-days-night-ringo-4 What?

Because there seems to be quite a lot of doubt.
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10 August 2010
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Thank you, Mr. nuS!

I just want to play. I’d like to think I could work opposite Sinatra, B.B. King, the Beatles, or a polka band... - Jazz musician Rahsaan Roland Kirk, 1967
10 August 2010
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I know, that's why I said that there's no doubt for ME that it's Paul. Wait, didn't this exact same thing happen earlier in the thread?

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11 August 2010
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Paulrus said:

I know, that's why I said that there's no doubt for ME that it's Paul. Wait, didn't this exact same thing happen earlier in the thread?


It does sound more like Paul, but in my mind it will always be John. It's like She Said She Said, which he clearly doesn't say "i've never been born" at least the first two times, so even if all the evidence points to those lyrics, I still don't believe it.
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