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A day in the life - Paul or John?
8 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

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Listen to "Lovely Rita" the opening ah is MUCH different then the ah's in ADITL. Has to be john. Or possiblya-hard-days-night-george-5

 


 

Listen to "Revolution". The opening "aaah" is MUCH different then the ahs in ADITL. Has to be Paul. Or possibly a-hard-days-night-ringo-5

Tell me you were joking as well about George!

 

Seriously, for the 768th time: It's Paul's chest voice, which is much different from John's, who's in the background.


It's definetly John's voice (In ADITL) Oh, and you really can't compare it to Revolution considering it was distorted.
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9 July 2010
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Ok I got an answer for this debate.

 

All the Lennonistas to the right.. and all the McCarteneistas to the left.  Ready? Ok, now please pick your favorite weapon.. ready? Ok, 1...2...3. The last man standing wins!!!!!!!

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9 July 2010
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This never ending argument just proves how big of Beatle geeks we all are. Instead of being productive in the world, we are sitting here arguing over the internet about, what, a ten or fifteen second part of one song. Given, it's the greatest song ever made, and well...that is the best part of the song. But still, we could be doing things like this!two-virgins

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9 July 2010
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Ahaha, there's nothing wrong with being a Beatle geek! Besides, it was clearly Justin Beiber... a-hard-days-night-paul-2 Too far?

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9 July 2010
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paulsbass said:


It's definetly John's voice (In ADITL) Oh, and you really can't compare it to Revolution considering it was distorted.

 

Yes, the backing vocal is definitely John's falsetto voice, no doubt. The lead is very clearly Paul's chest voice. Get over it.

John's Revolution Aaa doesn't sound distorted to me, just very much clipped. It's a different song, so he sings differently. Same with Lovely Rita. I gave you other songs to compare with the vocals.


Paul's chest voice was Helter Skelter. I really don't know what you're trying to prove here. Besides, you're outnumbered.
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9 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

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Paul's chest voice was Helter Skelter. I really don't know what you're trying to prove here. Besides, you're outnumbered.

 


 

Ok, Helter Skelter. So, did he sing "Yesterday" in falsetto, what would you say?

You see, in fact it's you who's trying to "prove" things with – let's say interesting suggestions.

I admit I'm a bit surprised being outnumbered so clearly. I thought the vocal track would make it possible for more people to hear the truth.

And, with all respect, if you really thought it might have been George I can't take your opinion very seriously. You

still didn't tell me if you were joking or not about it...

Besides I have more quotes on my side.


You are quite the assertive one, aren't you? And jeez, calm down, it's 15 seconds of a beatles song. I still think and know it's John (I was kidding about George, though it's still a possibility).
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9 July 2010
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Hey now, people, calm down. It's only a song. And of all bands to argue over... Give peace a chance

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9 July 2010
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Yes, just watch paulrus' avatar.

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9 July 2010
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It used to be Ringo dancing, but the link stopped working. Elbow organ is just as good though

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9 July 2010
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This thread makes me lose the will to live. I think Gniknus had the right idea.

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9 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

MrBig said:


You are quite the assertive one, aren't you?

 


I don't know. What does that mean?
 

And jeez, calm down, it's 15 seconds of a beatles song. I still think

and know it's John (I was kidding about George, though it's still a

possibility).

Hey, I'm Mr. Calm! 

It's not my fault some people don't want to hear the truth (I'm glad though that at least some were open for it).

Make a decision: Joke or possibility?

And get over it: It's Paul.


No. It's not paul. It's definetly john. Even if it was paul using his "chest voice", it wouldn't be nearly as legendary as this.
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9 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

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No. It's not paul. It's definetly john. Even if it was paul using his "chest voice", it wouldn't be nearly as legendary as this.

 


 

I still don't know what "assertive" means.

Do YOU know what a "chest voice" is?

Do you notice that your post doesn't make sense?

Ah, and it's still Paul. But I said it before: It's a free country, you can believe in what you want!


Alright, it's Paul, in your opinion. By the way, Assertive means your willing to express your feelings in willingness to see both sides of things, but your posts make me think your more aggressive than assertiveblue-meanie My post does make sense, because i said if Paul really did sing it instead of john it wouldn't be as legendary.
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9 July 2010
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paulsbass said:


It's definetly John's voice (In ADITL) Oh, and you really can't compare it to Revolution considering it was distorted.

 

Yes, the backing vocal is definitely John's falsetto voice, no doubt. The lead is very clearly Paul's chest voice. Get over it.

John's Revolution Aaa doesn't sound distorted to me, just very much clipped. It's a different song, so he sings differently. Same with Lovely Rita. I gave you other songs to compare with the vocals.


WHAT BACKING VOCAL?!?!?!

mithveaen said:

Ok I got an answer for this debate.

 

All the Lennonistas to the right.. and all the McCarteneistas to the left.  Ready? Ok, now please pick your favorite weapon.. ready? Ok, 1...2...3. The last man standing wins!!!!!!!


But I'm a girl! And I don't use weapons! Can I just duck over to the right and wait it out? a-hard-days-night-paul-10

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

9 July 2010
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MeanMrs.Mustard said:


WHAT BACKING VOCAL?!?!?!
 

 

It's a video paulsbass posted a couple pages back. a-hard-days-night-george-7

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9 July 2010
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paulsbass said

It just makes me a bit angry because many people don't get the fact that it wasn't only their hero JL who did most of the cool stuff in the Beatles but Sir Paul as well. So I always like to fight for Paul getting the respect he deserves.

While Paul was busy planning Sgt. Peppers, inspired by "Swinging London" JL was buried in suburbia in front of the TV ("Good morning, good morning"!). Many people say he wasn'T very keen on working in the studio, even on his own songs, and let others do the planning for him. During that time he was lazy, bored, frustrated, and filled up with drugs.

Paul was the driving force about almost everything that makes A Day In The Life so legendary, from the line "I'd love to turn you on" to the fantastic piano part to the more substantial idea for the orchestra (in contrast to John's "Apocalypse" sound) to the middle part to the TRANSITION. The others and of course George MArtin contributed greatly as well, but Paul was the main creative power in that phase. Get over it.

 

And if you really call the transition legendary, than that is thanks to Pauls "soaring" aaahs. John did some funny fooling around in the background, as you can hear on the vocal track (nobody ever seems to care about those backing vocals which are even more obviously John than the lead vocal is Paul).


Yikes, I see we've struck a nerve. Well you say Paul was the creative force, but there is no doubt that John's material was better in terms of quality. They just switched places because in the early days in was John's quantity and Paul's quality that made them great. And as a Beatles fan, not a Lennon fan, I would have to say that the song is most memorable, for me at least, because of John's voice. No one is doubting that Mr. McCartney was a pretty cool dude, but it's just that John was a little bit cooler, to me at least.
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9 July 2010
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skye said:

Yes, just watch paulrus' avatar.


I love it! 

paulsbass said:

Hey, I'm Mr. Calm! 


(Falls on the floor laughing)

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

9 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

MrBig said:


Alright, it's Paul, in your opinion. By the way, Assertive means your willing to express your feelings in willingness to see both sides of things, but your posts make me think your more aggressive than assertiveblue-meanie My post does make sense, because i said if Paul really did sing it instead of john it wouldn't be as legendary.

 


 

I'm a bit confused by the way you use "your" for "You are" and "your", but I guess I got the meaning. So youwr (ahaha!) using irony here, bravo!

The funny thing is: I never thought about Paul's transition as being very special. If you say his performance is legendary, good for Paul!

It just makes me a bit angry because many people don't get the fact that it wasn't only their hero JL who did most of the cool stuff in the Beatles but Sir Paul as well. So I always like to fight for Paul getting the respect he deserves.

While Paul was busy planning Sgt. Peppers, inspired by "Swinging London" JL was buried in suburbia in front of the TV ("Good morning, good morning"!). Many people say he wasn'T very keen on working in the studio, even on his own songs, and let others do the planning for him. During that time he was lazy, bored, frustrated, and filled up with drugs.

Paul was the driving force about almost everything that makes A Day In The Life so legendary, from the line "I'd love to turn you on" to the fantastic piano part to the more substantial idea for the orchestra (in contrast to John's "Apocalypse" sound) to the middle part to the TRANSITION. The others and of course George MArtin contributed greatly as well, but Paul was the main creative power in that phase. Get over it.

 

And if you really call the transition legendary, than that is thanks to Pauls "soaring" aaahs. John did some funny fooling around in the background, as you can hear on the vocal track (nobody ever seems to care about those backing vocals which are even more obviously John than the lead vocal is Paul).


How many times do I have to say this? It's YOUR OPINION. Don't tell me to get over it when it's YOUR OPINION. 
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9 July 2010
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GASP! I've come up with the PERFECT solution! No, it's not mithvaen's. 

According to you, paulsbass, 

paulsbass said:

The dominant lead "aaaah" is without a doubt Paul, though it is totally buried in the "stereo remasters". 


This sounds like you have the original Pepper LP. If you send it to me, I SWEAR I will keep an open mind. 

Don't rely on getting it back, though. ;) 

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

9 July 2010
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Oh my gosh. They really should have kept the vocals on that section more audible. 

At first it sounds a little bit like Paul, but then it sounds like John for the remainder of the "aah"s. But I thought the higher harmony bits REALLY should have been more audible in the recording. 

Look at what I found! It's fun to sing along! 

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10 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

GASP! I've come up with the PERFECT solution! No, it's not mithvaen's. 

According to you, paulsbass, 

paulsbass said:

The dominant lead "aaaah" is without a doubt Paul, though it is totally buried in the "stereo remasters". 


This sounds like you have the original Pepper LP. If you send it to me, I SWEAR I will keep an open mind.

 

Don't rely on getting it back, though. ;) 

 

Yeah, that would be great.

No, it''s really profane. In the complete mix, stereo or mono, original or remaster, the "aaahs" are really buried in the mix, so it's not easy to identify Paul. All the reverb makes him sound like John. The backing vocals are totally inaudible.

In the vocal track, which you can hear on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....V6uDD6CRjs, the vocals are isolated and you can hear more clearly (still not clearly enough for some) that Paul is singing lead and John and probably George are doing backing vocals, one deep "uuu", one high falsetto "uuuh" and then "aaah", which is clearly (still not clearly enough for some) John.

 

I know I'm not making it easy for people to agree with me. It's also not so important, really, what everyone believes. The singer will be the same in any case. I just want respect for Paul. (and I admit I'm a bit desperate about so many people even on this board not being able to identify him...)


Paul has had more than enough respect over the years.
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