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3.50pm
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said
I don't put any validity on what Rockband shows – A Day In The Life wasn't even an original song, it was downloadable content. Which means it's very well possible Paul (and Yoko) just approved it not taking into consideration whethe they has the person singing the ahh's right. I'm not saying that they got it wrong – I'm merely saying I don't put put value on that.
As well, what the majority of people think is also irrelevant; majorities of British citizens thought Churchill was a fear mongering old man whose best days were behind him. They were also very wrong. So majority opinion, really, isn't all that indicative of the truth.
As for the question at hand… I think this might be my last post. I think it's Paul, but I'm very open to it being John, or both. Let's keep it civil.Edit: Paulsbass – if Paul McCartney, your hero, said John did the A Day In The Life ahh's, would you take his word, or continue in the belief that Paul did them?
Sorry, I took the poll out of my last post again, since it only had two options, which wasn't remotely enough.
Here it is, please feel free to take part or not, as Mr. SunKing said the result doesn't mean or change anything, I'm just being curious.
Who do you think did the "aaaah" in A day in the life?
- Paul
- John
- both
- I don't know and I couldn't care less
I already answered your question, I think:
If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".
I mentioned how it was more clearly audible than ever in the Closing Ceremony, so if I HAD any doubts they would be gone by now for good.
4.56pm
1 May 2011
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Ive now reached the point where i dont care. There is no definite answer at the moment and all thats happening is a perpetual loop of non-progression and repetition. Feel free to discuss just keep it nice and respectful.
5.18pm
24 November 2011
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paulsbass said
If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".
So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …) 
5.32pm
1 December 2009
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Let's all just humour Paulsbass and say it was Paul (deliberately changing our actual opinions if necessary) and end this forever, okfine?
5.35pm
12 March 2010
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StrawberryFields said
paulsbass said
If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".
So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …)
It doesn't matter what anyone says:
His voice is on the record!
5.36pm
12 March 2010
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vonbontee said
Let's all just humour Paulsbass and say it was Paul (deliberately changing our actual opinions if necessary) and end this forever, okfine?
Haha, I guess I might get a LITTLE suspicious!
5.43pm
1 May 2011
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paulsbass said
StrawberryFields said
paulsbass said
If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".
So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …)
It doesn't matter what anyone says:
His voice is on the record!
So is Mal's.
5.55pm
24 November 2011
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paulsbass said
It doesn't matter what anyone says:His voice is on the record!
Don't you think that Paul would recognize his own voice?
6.53pm
19 September 2010
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paulsbass said
StrawberryFields said
paulsbass said
If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".
So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …)
It doesn't matter what anyone says:
His voice is on the record!
If you truly believe that Paul saying "John did them" would be Paul being mistaken, then there is nothing left to say.
You are living in a world where you find your opinion first and try to find "evidence" to support it, while treating all evidence to support John as mistaken. You take evidence presented to support John and distort it, you don't realise the way you go about trying to convince us it's Paul is actually making this irritating. Please, I beseech you, find a different salespitch then "I'm so sure, no debate", cause that line is losing meaning.
11.55pm
12 March 2010
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StrawberryFields said
Don't you think that Paul would recognize his own voice?
Yes, of course. That's why I don't see the need to theorize about what happened if he said he didn't sing it.
12.10am
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said
If you truly believe that Paul saying "John did them" would be Paul being mistaken, then there is nothing left to say.
You are living in a world where you find your opinion first and try to find "evidence" to support it, while treating all evidence to support John as mistaken. You take evidence presented to support John and distort it, you don't realise the way you go about trying to convince us it's Paul is actually making this irritating. Please, I beseech you, find a different salespitch then "I'm so sure, no debate", cause that line is losing meaning.
Hey, it was ME who stated somewhere very early that I'm not open for discussion anymore. I know what I hear.
And I was finished with this thread, but someone dug it out and the same points were repeated so I had my say about it.
Why should I be open for discussion who's the lead singer on "With a little help from my friends"? It's on the record.
Why should I be open for discussion who does the aah when I'm absolutely sure it's Paul?!
Again:
His. Voice. Is. On. The. Record.
Many of you find it sounding a lot like John, ok. It does a bit.
Doesn't change the fact it's Paul. Sorry, but how is this my mistake or fault?!
You judge my whole personality from a single occasion.
Someone made up a hypothetical situation which will never occur – since Paul would without a doubt say he did the aaah – and you trash me for playing along with it.
I explained everything more than once in this thread, how I WAS wondering if it was John for a while but I'm just not anymore – since it is Paul's voice on the record.
And a voice is a voice, it's not like a guitar sound. If there's Paul's voice, it's Paul singing.
And I'm not "trying" to find evidence at all, I don't need any personally. I would just like other people, who don't feel the acoustic evidence is convincing or clear enough to learn abouth the truth (which is not even that important, imo).
This has nothing to do with "my opinion first" or "Paul first", nothing at all. I was wrong on other questions and always admitted it.
I'm not wrong here, sorry, it's the truth, not my arrogance.
And, how excactly did I "distort" evidence?! I'd be happy to admit it was John – if it was his voice.
I just know what I hear.
People find it irritating I'm so sure, ok. I get that. But how am I supposed to change that?! Pretending I'm not sure??
1.23am
9 February 2012
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It is John. He told me so, in song.
2.00am
19 September 2010
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paulsbass said
Hey, it was ME who stated somewhere very early that I'm not open for discussion anymore. I know what I hear.
And yet you have a grand total of 51 posts in this thread, which comes to one in every 5 posts is yours. If you knew you weren't open for discussion, why spend all that time and energy?
Why should I be open for discussion who's the lead singer on "With a little help from my friends"? It's on the record.
Not in any f*cking way the same thing.
Why should I be open for discussion who does the aah when I'm absolutely sure it's Paul?!
Because you have the most subjective "proof" of your claim, against the claim of a man who witnessed the recording (Geoff Emerick).
Again:
His. Voice. Is. On. The. Record.
According to some.
Many of you find it sounding a lot like John, ok. It does a bit.
Doesn't change the fact (Sun King emphasis) it's Paul. Sorry, but how is this my mistake or fault?!
Your mistake is that you say, constantly, that it's a fact, a proven, assured, fact. Which it is not in any way.
You judge my whole personality from a single occasion.
Believe me, I've got enough of a sense of your personality from other times – this isn't changing it at all.
Someone made up a hypothetical situation which will never occur – since Paul would without a doubt say he did the aaah – and you trash me for playing along with it.
How the hell do you have the foresight to say "without a doubt" he'd say he did them? You are making so many assumptions I'm enraged.
I explained everything more than once in this thread, how I WAS wondering if it was John for a while but I'm just not anymore – since it is Paul's voice on the record.
From the first comment board post you've been arrogantly sure it was Paul.
And a voice is a voice, it's not like a guitar sound. If there's Paul's voice, it's Paul singing.
But that's in no way sure! Would you not say echo and distortion can change a voice? Cause they can.
And I'm not "trying" to find evidence at all, I don't need any personally. I would just like other people, who don't feel the acoustic evidence is convincing or clear enough to learn abouth the truth (which is not even that important, imo).
Of course it's not important – because you're failing at that goal.
This has nothing to do with "my opinion first" or "Paul first", nothing at all. I was wrong on other questions and always admitted it.
Like?
I'm not wrong here, sorry, it's the truth, not my arrogance.
Repeating a bland non sequitur will not convince anyone, I'm sorry.
And, how excactly did I "distort" evidence?! I'd be happy to admit it was John – if it was his voice.
You didn't – you distorted people's opinions, which is not the same thing. I apologize.
I just know what I hear.
People find it irritating I'm so sure, ok. I get that. But how am I supposed to change that?! Pretending I'm not sure??
Not post 51 posts saying it's Paul when you have no factual basis for that claim. 31 would do just as well.
8.45am
12 March 2010
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mr. Sun king coming together said
And yet you have a grand total of 51 posts in this thread, which comes to one in every 5 posts is yours. If you knew you weren't open for discussion, why spend all that time and energy?
Asks the one who spends all that time and energy to count my freaking posts!
Saying I'm not going to change my mind doesn't mean I have to keep my mouth shut. When someone says it could be both of them why not point out it doesn't sound like a double-vocal.
Why should I be open for discussion who's the lead singer on "With a little help from my friends"? It's on the record.
Not in any f*cking way the same thing.
Yes, it is. It's just that WALHFMF is more obvious.
Because you have the most subjective "proof" of your claim, against the claim of a man who witnessed the recording (Geoff Emerick).
Mr. Emerick is one of my heros since he worked so much for the Beatles AND Paul.
I only heard and read in this forum that his own book was deeply flawed. Looks as if he "spiced it up" a bit to sell some copies, while he didn't remember much worthy to tell himself.
Since it is Paul's voice on the record and Emerick claims it's John, the critics obviously have a point.
According to some.
Again: How is it my mistake that many people don't recognize his voice?!
Your mistake is that you say, constantly, that it's a fact, a proven, assured, fact. Which it is not in any way.
I never said it was a "proven" fact. Unfortunately none of us has Paul's number to get the ultimate proof for anyone doubting his ears.
It still is a fact, I am 100 percent sure. Sorry. It's his voice on the record.
Believe me, I've got enough of a sense of your personality from other times – this isn't changing it at all.
Yes, I remember our early discussions vividly. You might wanna check the impressions your own personality made in that time. Let me say that I think you improved your act here a LOT, and I appreciate that, because you really do have a lot to say.
How the hell do you have the foresight to say "without a doubt" he'd say he did them? You are making so many assumptions I'm enraged.
Because I know it's Paul on the record, and the "worst" I would expect is him not remembering, which I can't really imagine since, as was pointed out, he'd recognize his voice.
From the first comment board post you've been arrogantly sure it was Paul.
I was sure yes, but not arrogantly, that's coming from you. And if you'd not just counted but actually read my posts you' see how I explained how I had my doubts – but BEFORE this discussion. So sue me.
But that's in no way sure! Would you not say echo and distortion can change a voice? Cause they can.
It's sure for me. I told you how it sounded more obvious than ever during the Olympics. You got a point with the effects.
It's still Paul.
Of course it's not important – because you're failing at that goal.
Hm, I'll put that down to your blind rage, ok? I know I can be ennerving at times, so no offense taken.
Like?
Don't remember right know, must look up.
Repeating a bland non sequitur will not convince anyone, I'm sorry.
No, I'm afraid so and aware of that fact, of course. I surely wish it was more obvious for more people.
You didn't – you distorted people's opinions, which is not the same thing. I apologize.
Well, apology accepted, but I'm not sure your new accusation is any better, to be honest…
Not post 51 posts saying it's Paul when you have no factual basis for that claim. 31 would do just as well.
Says the man with 6700 posts.
Sorry, wasn't necessary, you DID cut down your output nicely.
Believe me, I would have loved this thread to be over ealier.
And was every post of mine necessary? Of course not!
So weren't many others who repeated claims without having read the thread (no miracle) so I repeated my views. I don't have the right to do that?
I don't want to fight with anybody here, I always just wanted to enjoy A day in the life, which I find harder now after all this bad talk which I never wanted.
11.28am
13 August 2012
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paulsbass said
Paul was the driving force about almost everything that makes A day in the life so legendary, from the line "I'd love to turn you on" to the fantastic piano part to the more substantial idea for the orchestra (in contrast to John's "Apocalypse" sound) to the middle part to the TRANSITION. The others and of course George MArtin contributed greatly as well, but Paul was the main creative power in that phase. Get over it.
Are you a hundred percent certain it's Paul's line? Apart from sounding really much like a typical Lennon line, I believe Paul reveals himself in the Anthology documentaries. For instance when he's first mentioning A Day in the Life he says, "I think he [John] got the ide… or, we then got the idea….". Breaking up mid-sentence, and changing 'John' to 'we', doesn't make him trustworthy at all. A little later he does – kind of – the same thing, when explaining how the "I love to turn you on"-line came to existence (saying "we", when he was about to say something else).
And btw… I too have always thought the aaahhh was Johns, but coming to think of it, in the anthology version Paul kinda screws up and then says "oh shit", maybe instead of doing the aaahhhhhh. But then again, considering it's an early take they might not even have thought of doing it (aaahhhh) yet again.
Summa summarum, I still believe it's John, not because I don't believe in McCartneys creativity, voice or anything, but simply because it really, really sounds like John.
Oh, and maybe McCartney was the most worksome / creative person (seriously, how can you – for instance – say Penny Lane (or any other McCartney song from that periode) is more creative than eg. Strawberry Fields), around pepper properly due to his heavy cocaine consumption…
Sorry if you can't comprehend this, I haven't written any English for what feels like decades. 
12.17pm
12 March 2010
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Welcome!
Jakob said
Are you a hundred percent certain it's Paul's line?
No.
Tadaaa!
As you pointed out, he's not even certain himself – as anyone working creatively as a team would understand.
Oh, and maybe McCartney was the most worksome / creative person (seriously, how can you – for instance – say Penny Lane (or any other McCartney song from that periode) is more creative than eg. Strawberry Fields), around pepper properly due to his heavy cocaine consumption…
I didn't say PL is more creative than SFF. Still, while we're at it, I think Paul (and George) contributed more to SFF than John to PL.
What's his cocain consumption to do with anything? John was heavy on SEVERAL drugs, so what's your point?
Sorry if you can't comprehend this, I haven't written any English for what feels like decades.
That's ok, it was fine.
12.22pm
26 March 2012
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You know all that stuff I said about keeping the thread alive in the name of promoting free, healthy discussion? Sniping and profanity aren't what I had in mind. Like some guy said, the dream is over. Maybe we should close the thread.
12.25pm
19 September 2010
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Paulsbass – seeing as I have no time to go down the line of this thread, can we make a deal? You continue to make as many posts in this thread as you want, and I don't object because you drop the WALHFMF thing. The Ahhs are a bitterly contested thing, with the only documenter being considered (at best) a liar (Emerick), while you have interviews, quotes, live performances (I don't consider the fact Paul now does A Day In The Life relevant – no ahh from today will ever sound the same, even If he did them originally) to validate its Ringo. Please, just stop using that analogy and I'll shut up.
Edit: Please the don't lock the thread on my account. I'm guilty as charged Ben. But just because I fucked this thread up, doesn't mean if I shut up (which I will by virtue of no wifi for two days) it can't be a hearty discussion.
12.30pm
1 May 2011
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Paulbass, saying i believe or its definately x or i am certain is not the same as a fact thats all folks are trying to say. Just because you hear Paul doesnt mean it definately is 100%. In the 60's beatle fans heard John singing Why Dont We Do It In the Road and wrote it up in reviews, some folks didnt think it was Ringo singing Good Night, there is a misheard lyrics thread on this site where for years fans, massive hardcore fans, heard and believed what wasnt sung. Im not saying its not Paul or people arent hardcore fans or should deny what they think is the answer and say something else. Thats your opinion and i fully respect it, you might even be 100% right (apologies if that sound patronising its not meant to be taken that way).
As for this thread can it get back to analysing the song and discussing that part and move away from the arguements. I missed the locked thread but if all this continues i will be going back on my previous post and want the damn thing locked. Keep it friendly and respectful – please. (I'll probably be pulled up for writing the first paragraph.)
12.37pm
13 August 2012
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Paulsbass
What's his cocain consumption to do with anything? John was heavy on SEVERAL drugs, so what's your point?
Just explaining why Paul might've been the productive one -- cannabis and psychedelics doesn't make you wanna do anything (physical at least) -- coke kinda speeds one up, thus making McCartney more productive (but less creative, imo. Just adding When Im sixty-four… com'on).
I didn't mean anything specific with the cocaine line, but you have pointed Johns drug consumption out several times, so it was to de-glorify McCartney towards drugs, I guess.
My favorite beatle is Harrison, so it's true when I say Im not trying to defend John in any way, I just got frustrated reading all your John-bashing (or Paul-glorification).
Im surprised you expect people to be convinced by your chest-arguments etc., when it's obvious you're just postulating things, for instance concerning the "turn-you-on"-line. Why even mention it's Paul's, if you don't have the slightest clue whether it's true or false? I guess I'll have a hard time believing anything you say from now on, considering how easy it is to you, just to say something.
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