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A day in the life - Paul or John?
11 August 2012
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paulsbass said 

Think of my position that way:

When someone tells you John is singing "With a little help…" you tell him: "No, that's Ringo!" Why? Because you HEAR it. If the other one tells you "Well, we weren't there, we can't be sure!" you'd answer: "Excuse me, I don't HAVE to have been there, it's on the record, you can HEAR it's Ringo!"

Most people will support your "opinion" because they know Ringo's voice and can tell it from John's. And I don't think you will back down in some way and say "Well, it COULD be John…", you'd be firm in your "opinion", which is in truth NOT an opinion but an OBSERVATION!

 

But these situations are in no way analogous. You keep coming back to this argument, when there is documented proof of Ringo singing (Quotes of Ringo's, Paul's, John's). The only source who was in the studio who (As far as we can tell )has documented the event has said it was John. Even though I'm starting to believe it was Paul, you cannot discount the possibility that you are wrong. No one is perfect.

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paulsbass said 

Think of my position that way:

When someone tells you John is singing "With a little help…" you tell him: "No, that's Ringo!" Why? Because you HEAR it. If the other one tells you "Well, we weren't there, we can't be sure!" you'd answer: "Excuse me, I don't HAVE to have been there, it's on the record, you can HEAR it's Ringo!"

Most people will support your "opinion" because they know Ringo's voice and can tell it from John's. And I don't think you will back down in some way and say "Well, it COULD be John…", you'd be firm in your "opinion", which is in truth NOT an opinion but an OBSERVATION!

I CAN hear it's Paul, I KNOW it is him as I KNOW it's Ringo singing WALHFMF because I can HEAR it.

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8PaulsBass, your analogies aren't exactly concrete examples for defending your opinion--or, as you said, "OBSERVATION!"--that Paul sang the "aaaaah's" because they can work in favor of those who believe it to have been John. While you may hear Paul, others hear John; therefore, their opinion becomes just as much an observation as yours. You see?

paulsbass said 

I could PERFECTLY well accept and live with the fact that this is John singing, because I love him as much as most of you (just Paul a little more), but am I supposed to deny my senses? 

And I never expected so many hard-core Beatles-fans to get this wrong, influenced by love for John or not. Even Joe is not sure.

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8I'm pretty sure this topic--and anyone's opinions about it--has nothing to do with favoritism or level of love…I admit that John is my favorite, but even I'm not sure who sang the "aaaaah's". If this thread was based on how much we love John/Paul, wouldn't I have said that John sang them? That set aside, I must admit that I'm a bit offended by your claim that anyone who disagrees with you about it being Paul isn't a hard-core fan…I know you didn't actually say that, but it was implied.

paulsbass said 

It's so obvious it's Paul!

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8If it was so obvious, why do we have a twelve-page discussion about it…? I respect that you're so absolute in your observation, but it's a little bit degrading for people who are either on Team John or Team John&Paul--or people like me who don't have a team--to read such forceful posts.

paulsbass said 

Sorry again, and please somebody ask Paul to make an end of it.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8I think that's the one thing anyone's said throughout this whole discussion that everyone agrees on lol. a-hard-days-night-john-6

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Dipsy said

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8If it was so obvious, why do we have a twelve-page discussion about it…? I respect that you're so absolute in your observation, but it's a little bit degrading for people who are either on Team John or Team John&Paul--or people like me who don't have a team--to read such forceful posts.

 

That's exactly what I think.

*irony on* Maybe we should think about printing t-shirts saying "Team Paul" and "Team John". *irony off*

11 August 2012
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paulsbass said

Hey Zig, thanks for the diplomatic way of telling me to stop being an ass. a-hard-days-night-paul-10

I don't think you are an ass. As a matter of fact, I admire your conviction. For decades, I heard John singing that part due to, what you yourself called it, the "nasal tone" to the ahs. I thought that had to be him because of that nasal quality. I like John's voice a lot but always thought Paul had a much better voice.

Then, I discover this wonderful website and a thread is started debating the issue. I started doubting my ears thinking, "huh – maybe it is Paul or a little of both". The most compelling cases came from you. Your conviction was making me doubt my own ears. But I just can't get past that nasal tone to the ahs which makes me think it is John.

In summation, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, keep on making your case – it is a very, very good one. Just start more sentences with "here is why I disagree" vs. "You are wrong."

Thanks very much for being cool about it, paulsbass.

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paulsbass said

Zig said
But I just can't get past that nasal tone to the ahs which makes me think it is John.

In summation, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, keep on making your case – it is a very, very good one. Just start more sentences with "here is why I disagree" vs. "You are wrong."

Thanks very much for being cool about it, paulsbass.

Thanks as well Zig!

If John would do the "aahhs" they would be even MORE nasal.

Again: Check out the high "uuhs" in the background (isolated vocals). THEY are nasal.

Actually, a lot of them have this "hooting" quality, I'm sure you'll agree. And that is typical of Paul's falsetto, even if he is technically more capable singing the higher notes than John, his voice doesn't crack and such, John's falsetto has more "vibrato". In the background, there is also this more piercing vocal, which might be John's, but I'm pretty certain the other one isn't. It's either Paul or someone altogether else, but I don't hear John in it

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paulsbass said

Long John Silver said  
I just can't hear Paul, maybe as the one who uploaded states that "John main with Paul on background" but that's it.

Thanks for providing another evidence it's Paul.

I CAN hear John, he's doing the high nasal falsetto "uuhs" in the background.

Lead is all Paul with a chest voice.

JOHN MAIN with Paul, I just provided evidence that it is John a-hard-days-night-george-10.

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So there isnt two discussions going on for the Olympics Closing Ceremony it has its own thread here.

 

I had a dream last night were i listened to the ADITL "ahh's" and it was very clearly Paul. Not sure if that was a proclamation of fact or due to all the talk here.

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13 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said
So there isnt two discussions going on for the Olympics Closing Ceremony it has its own thread here.

 

I had a dream last night were i listened to the ADITL "ahh's" and it was very clearly Paul. Not sure if that was a proclamation of fact or due to all the talk here.

I had a very similar dream, it must be in our subconscious. Only difference is that I found out it was both of them in my dream.

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Ben Ramon said

meanmistermustard said
So there isnt two discussions going on for the Olympics Closing Ceremony it has its own thread here.

I had a dream last night were i listened to the ADITL "ahh's" and it was very clearly Paul. Not sure if that was a proclamation of fact or due to all the talk here.

I had a very similar dream, it must be in our subconscious. Only difference is that I found out it was both of them in my dream.

If the dream realm cant agree on an answer what hope is there!?  

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13 August 2012
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paulsbass said
 

So, sorry again, I am right on this one, no discussion for me.

 

TO me it still sounded like John, so I am right and no discussion :) . (just playing your game)

 

I will just quote mr sun king coming together

 

"The only source who was in the studio who (As far as we can tell )has documented the event has said it was John."

 

The person in Rock Band whose is singing that part is John.

Most of people (beside this forum) think it's John, even people uploading videos of isolated voices (who are also Beatles fans). 

 

2:55

 

So the evidence of Paul singing is just your observation, not a quote by someone who was actually there.

 

As for asking anyone, the best person to ask would probably be George Martin

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paulsbass said
 

It sounded soooo much like Paul, never was more obvious.

So, sorry again, I am right on this one, no discussion for me.

Everyone has the right to believe differently, of course.

I admire your conviction, but it still would make me laugh heartily if it did turn out to be John, or someone asked Paul and he just nonchalantly said "yeah, it was John."

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13 August 2012
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Yeah but according to Rock Band George also plays guitar on this day (and that john plays rythm guitar on maxwell) and that's also not true

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GeorgeTSimpson said
Yeah but according to Rock Band George also plays guitar on this day (and that john plays rythm guitar on maxwell) and that's also not true

Someone already explained that, the same goes for George playing Clapton's part on While My Guitar Gently Weeps, they didn't want to add others in game, but here there were no reason just to give John to sing that part, as both John and Paul are in the game and it's singing, not playing the instrument. They could also at least also animate Paul singing it, but they didn't.

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I don't put any validity on what Rockband shows – A Day In The Life wasn't even an original song, it was downloadable content. Which means it's very well possible Paul (and Yoko) just approved it not taking into consideration whethe they has the person singing the ahh's right. I'm not saying that they got it wrong – I'm merely saying I don't put put value on that.
As well, what the majority of people think is also irrelevant; majorities of British citizens thought Churchill was a fear mongering old man whose best days were behind him. They were also very wrong. So majority opinion, really, isn't all that indicative of the truth.
As for the question at hand… I think this might be my last post. I think it's Paul, but I'm very open to it being John, or both. Let's keep it civil.

Edit: Paulsbass – if Paul McCartney, your hero, said John did the A Day In The Life ahh's, would you take his word, or continue in the belief that Paul did them?

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Ive now reached the point where i dont care. There is no definite answer at the moment and all thats happening is a perpetual loop of non-progression and repetition. Feel free to discuss just keep it nice and respectful. 

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paulsbass said

If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".

So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …) a-hard-days-night-john-6

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Let's all just humour Paulsbass and say it was Paul (deliberately changing our actual opinions if necessary) and end this forever, okfine?

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paulsbass said

StrawberryFields said

paulsbass said

If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".

So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …) a-hard-days-night-john-6

It doesn't matter what anyone says:

His voice is on the record!

So is Mal's.

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paulsbass said
It doesn't matter what anyone says:

His voice is on the record!

Don't you think that Paul would recognize his own voice?

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paulsbass said

StrawberryFields said

paulsbass said

If Paul says he didn't do it he doesn't remember it correctly. But we don't have to theorize about that, since he would either say "I did it" or "I can't remember".

So, "nothing's gonna change your world", right? What if George M. AND Paul would say that it was John? (Yes, we all know that is very unlikely, but just in case …) a-hard-days-night-john-6

It doesn't matter what anyone says:

His voice is on the record!

If you truly believe that Paul saying "John did them" would be Paul being mistaken, then there is nothing left to say.
You are living in a world where you find your opinion first and try to find "evidence" to support it, while treating all evidence to support John as mistaken. You take evidence presented to support John and distort it, you don't realise the way you go about trying to convince us it's Paul is actually making this irritating. Please, I beseech you, find a different salespitch then "I'm so sure, no debate", cause that line is losing meaning.

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