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Rubber Soul East Coast/Dexterized" Version!
4 January 2011
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Does anyone have a copy of this version. I know it was released on vinyl but is there a CD copy of this that I can purchase or download?

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I have never heard of this - what is it exactly?

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4 January 2011
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When Rubber Soul was released in December 1965 the album was pressed by Capitol Records in Los Angeles. There was a short run of this album on vinyl pressed in the New York plant with Dave Dexter Jr. adding his famous reverb to all the stereo songs on the album. This became to be know as the East Coast Mix or 'Dexterized' version of the American release. The mono mixes are the same as the standard Capitol release with no changes.

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4 January 2011
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Wow, I didn't know that "Dexterization" was still being done as late as Rubber Soul! Obviously I've never heard it - and based on the Duophonic Beatles albums that I have heard, I certainly don't want to hear it - well, maybe out of curiostiy, but never enjoyment.

Maybe the Capitol Albums box has that version?

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I am trying to get all the different mixes that were available. I believe the UK and American mixes are the only ones that are different. Canada used the American mixes but all other countries used the UK versions.

Some of the mixes are interesting to hear all though they will never compare with the remastered versions from the UK. Those are awesome.

Also, the Capitol Albums Vol. 2 Rubber Soul used the Los Angeles plant version without the reverb added and not the East Coast version for the release of the box set so this version of the album will be hard to find. 

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4 January 2011
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It's not on CD. Try a used record shop, there should be one where you live

 

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Thanks Mr. Sun King

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5 January 2011
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If one were to look for it in a used record shop, are there any visual characteristics that would distinguish it from the others?

 

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Zig said:

If one were to look for it in a used record shop, are there any visual characteristics that would distinguish it from the others?

 

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Supposedly, you need to look at the matrix numbers to know if you have an East Coast version. There are two copies, both are East Coast pressings with New York lacquers and are on the rainbow subsidiary label. Both play with reverb:

Record 1

Side 1 - W8 #1

Side 2 - W14 #2

Record 2

Side 1 W6 #3

Side 2 W14 #2

 


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According to this page, "the only hope you have of finding one without playing it first is to check the "New Improved Full Dimensional Stereo" logo at the top of the cover. On the Dexterized version, those words appear against a white background, as opposed to appearing against the dark brown background of the cover photo. This change was made to the cover at approximately the same time that the Dexterized version of the album was issued."
Apparently Dr Ebbetts did a needledrop of it, but he's retired his archive since the 2009 remasters were released. You may be able to find it on torrent sites though.

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Here is a youtube link regarding the American release of 'Rubber Soul' (Dexterized Mix) for those who have never heard it before. 

Each song has added reverb and is mixed a little different. This album was also referred to as the 'East Coast Version'

http://www.youtube.com/playlis.....ature=plcp

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Are they actually different US mixes? Thought they were simply the normal US mixes with added reverb. They arent included in the Back To Basics Rubber Soul release by Helter Skelter which sought to gather all the available alternates together.

 

Dr Ebbett wrote on the sleeve notes for his needle drop (taken from bootlegzone)

"The so-called "Dexterized" version of the US stereo Rubber Soul LP (ST 2442).
For those not familiar with it, it is also known by some as the "East Coast" version. It is identical the "regular" US stereo version of the Rubber Soul LP in every way except that it has a layer of reverb across the entire album. That's right. . . .Capitol reverb across the whole LP! It is not dramatic, but it is very noticeable on specific songs where the vocals are completely or partially isolated. Songs like "Girl" and "Wait" are particularly noticeable. . It can be heard clearly on a song like "Think For Yourself," which normally ends cold and dry. On the "Dexterized" version, there is a very definite echoey decay on that last note. . . In terms of the Doctor Ebbetts catalogue, the "Dexterized" version of the LP can be distinguished from the "regular" dry issue by the front artwork. The Capitol stereo banner will be above the front picture in the white border area on the "Dexterized" version. On the "regular" version, the stereo banner will be as it is now, as part of the picture. In the 1960s, Capitol issued the stereo version of Rubber Soul both ways, citing the inability to read the stereo banner clearly against the green background of the picture as the reason for placing it *above* the picture in the white border wrap-around area. . . That's how I will differentiate the two in the Dr. E series. . ."

 That youtube link goes to a page that is only viewable by the playlist owner by the way.

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meanmistermustard said
Are they actually different US mixes? Thought they were simply the normal US mixes with added reverb. They arent included in the Back To Basics Rubber Soul release by Helter Skelter which sought to gather all the available alternates together.

 

Dr Ebbett wrote on the sleeve notes for his needle drop (taken from bootlegzone)

"The so-called "Dexterized" version of the US stereo Rubber Soul LP (ST 2442).
For those not familiar with it, it is also known by some as the "East Coast" version. It is identical the "regular" US stereo version of the Rubber Soul LP in every way except that it has a layer of reverb across the entire album. That's right. . . .Capitol reverb across the whole LP! It is not dramatic, but it is very noticeable on specific songs where the vocals are completely or partially isolated. Songs like "Girl" and "Wait" are particularly noticeable. . It can be heard clearly on a song like "Think For Yourself," which normally ends cold and dry. On the "Dexterized" version, there is a very definite echoey decay on that last note. . . In terms of the Doctor Ebbetts catalogue, the "Dexterized" version of the LP can be distinguished from the "regular" dry issue by the front artwork. The Capitol stereo banner will be above the front picture in the white border area on the "Dexterized" version. On the "regular" version, the stereo banner will be as it is now, as part of the picture. In the 1960s, Capitol issued the stereo version of Rubber Soul both ways, citing the inability to read the stereo banner clearly against the green background of the picture as the reason for placing it *above* the picture in the white border wrap-around area. . . That's how I will differentiate the two in the Dr. E series. . ."

 That youtube link goes to a page that is only viewable by the playlist owner by the way.

They are not different mixes. You are correct. It just has added reverb to all the songs but I find it very interesting. The songs on this Dexterized version for me a least, seems to have more of a punch kind of like 'The Beatles Second Album' which also features some added reverb to the songs.

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