The Beatles Bible - Topic: Interesting interview with Maureen

meanmistermustard on Interesting interview with Maureen

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 01:32:22 +0000

I had the thought that Double Fantasy got mediocre reviews and did ok but im happy to admit i got partly deluded by the aftermath. I know it wasnt a major succcess until after Johns murder but it did ok ((Just Like) Starting Over hitting the US top 3 before he was shot). Agree that it is difficult to not look back and think "wow what a success" since both Starting Over and Double Fantasy hit number 1 but then so did Imagine in 1981.

To be honest its not a great album, its fine but only points to hope that whatever next would have ...

DrBeatle on Interesting interview with Maureen

Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:33:04 +0000

Let's not forget that Double Fantasy was actually panned pretty severely by nearly all critics when it was released. It was only given positive reviews after John died, which is the bit of revisionist history that kind of irritates me. I like some songs on it, but let's face it, it wasn't one of his best.

meanmistermustard on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:47:14 +0000

Ive heard most of those rumours just not the Yoko PR part. It was Yoko's career that was in the ascendency in 72 - 74 whereas Johns was stifled a little (no thanks to the Political stuff of '72).

I think the affair guy was a guitarist but i cant remember who - a google search would bring up the name but i dont care enough as its just a rumour (just a rumour). Maybe someone here can remember it.

For all we know John going touring and a bit of space from each other might have made their marriage stronger or even just the activity of doing something, ...

DrBeatle on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:53:42 +0000

meanmistermustard said
The other thing is we cant help who we fall in love with. Its a very powerful emotion and John wouldnt be the first person who people look at and wonder why he loved X and not Z.

You wouldnt have to look very hard without finding someone and wonder "why the hell is he/she with him/her? What are they thinking? S/he's a total prat and s/he could do so much better".

I don't mean that disparagingly to Yoko, just that the heart wants what the heart wants and regardless of what folk think John really did love Yoko ...

meanmistermustard on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:48:27 +0000

The other thing is we cant help who we fall in love with. Its a very powerful emotion and John wouldnt be the first person who people look at and wonder why he loved X and not Z.

You wouldnt have to look very hard without finding someone and wonder "why the hell is he/she with him/her? What are they thinking? S/he's a total prat and s/he could do so much better".

I don't mean that disparagingly to Yoko, just that the heart wants what the heart wants and regardless of what folk think John really did love Yoko and Yoko did ...

Zig on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:35:14 +0000

Thanks for sharing the interview text, Linde. I had not read much from Mo before. It was cool hearing about these things from her persective.

DrBeatle on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:08:09 +0000

^Good points. I always wondered why John felt he couldn't have The Beatles *and* Yoko. There's the famous quote from Paul where he said once John met Yoko, he had to "clear the decks" and get rid of The Beatles in his life so he could move on to his life with Yoko. Wonder why he felt they couldn't co-exist?

meanmistermustard on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:01:56 +0000

John fell in love with a woman who was very different from most girls who would fawn over him and offer nothing mentally challenging. She was very independant and off the wall in her ideas and that must have held a fascination to John who was bored senseless and relying on drugs as escapism. Also supposedly Yoko knew nothing about the Beatles so that may have held some amazement for John, well that was the party line thrown out in interviews with them both but it may be be another sugarlump added to their story.

DrBeatle on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:56:24 +0000

fabfouremily said

DrBeatle said
^yes, but he was also an incredibly strong willed and stubborn guy who seemed to completely lose that bit of his personality *ONLY* around her, from day 1, and I still scratch my head all these years later as to why she and she alone produced that effect in him?

Because she was like that too? It's a question that I've asked myself a lot and I've come to the conclusion that John was in awe of women who knew their own mind, were independent etc, it's what he'd grown up with, so Yoko was ...

fabfouremily on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:27:34 +0000

DrBeatle said
^yes, but he was also an incredibly strong willed and stubborn guy who seemed to completely lose that bit of his personality *ONLY* around her, from day 1, and I still scratch my head all these years later as to why she and she alone produced that effect in him?

Because she was like that too? It's a question that I've asked myself a lot and I've come to the conclusion that John was in awe of women who knew their own mind, were independent etc, it's what he'd grown up with, so Yoko was exactly like his ...

...ontherun on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:55:44 +0000

DrBeatle said
^yes, but he was also an incredibly strong willed and stubborn guy who seemed to completely lose that bit of his personality *ONLY* around her, from day 1, and I still scratch my head all these years later as to why she and she alone produced that effect in him?

True enough and a valid point for me to consider.

DrBeatle on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:22:00 +0000

^yes, but he was also an incredibly strong willed and stubborn guy who seemed to completely lose that bit of his personality *ONLY* around her, from day 1, and I still scratch my head all these years later as to why she and she alone produced that effect in him?

...ontherun on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:26:35 +0000

Great interview... Thanks for posting Linde.

as to the off-topic topic at hand. I think when you do the incredible amount of mind altering drugs as John did one of the long lasting effects is the complete destruction of the ego making one easily manipulated. Having said that I do NOT believe Yoko was manipulating John. I think she was an incredibly odd woman and John a bit of a lost soul needing am anchor. His anchor was Yoko.

DrBeatle on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 03:32:52 +0000

unknown said

Paul has said that himself about telling John he has to work hard on getting Yoko to let him come back to her.

The whole lost weekend deal is very confusing. From what I have read Yoko was having a no touching phase, so John started doing things with other women in front of Yoko to upset her and that's when she sent him to live with May. While he was living with May, taking a break from Yoko, she still called him practically every hour or something crazy. John had Julian down there a couple times during that ...

Funny Paper on Interesting interview with Maureen

Wed, 12 Dec 2012 03:19:15 +0000

Paul and John during John's "lost weekend" (photo taken by May Pang):