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Demolition threatening Ringo's birthplace
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17 August 2010
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What does everyone think about this? Ringo Starr's Liverpool birthplace in new threat. It makes me sad, but I don't have a solution. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14Ugh, city planners. I've yet to hear a good plan from these planners.

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17 August 2010
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They should make a Museum of Ringo. That would make me happy. 😀

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17 August 2010
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If the neighborhood is truly in a state of disrepair, new homes make sense.

At the same time, tell me there isn't something they can do to keep Ringo's childhood home intact by building around it. It is done all the time.

I'm quite surprised that it is not already a protected landmark.a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

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17 August 2010
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I suppose it's cost prohibitive to restore all of them, but I don't see why they can't build around it. The National Trust bought Paul's and John's childhood homes...

Perhaps I'm not remembering this correctly, but he was born there, but then moved to another location when his dad left and his mom couldn't afford to stay, right? Which house do you preserve, and is the second home ok?

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17 August 2010
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Yeah skye, he was born there. That in itself should have be enough to get the NT involved, I would think. Perhaps our brethren from the UK can shed some light on how that works.

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17 August 2010
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The NT would only buy it if they thought it was a significant asset to the nation. Now you could argue that Ringo's birthplace fell into that category, but there are thousands of notable people in British history and sometimes you have to draw the line.

According to the BBC story Skye posted earlier, Ringo lived there for three months before moving to Admiral Grove, where he stayed for about 20 years. That would be worth protecting, I think.

FYI, neither Forthlin Road or Menlove Avenue were Paul or John's birthplaces, nor the first houses they lived in.

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17 August 2010
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We should all fight to make any Beatle related building a landmark!!!!!!! And i mean fight in a peaceful way! Like a sit in. a-hard-days-night-john-5

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17 August 2010
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Joe said:

The NT would only buy it if they thought it was a significant asset to the nation. Now you could argue that Ringo's birthplace fell into that category, but there are thousands of notable people in British history and sometimes you have to draw the line.

According to the BBC story Skye posted earlier, Ringo lived there for three months before moving to Admiral Grove, where he stayed for about 20 years. That would be worth protecting, I think.

FYI, neither Forthlin Road or Menlove Avenue were Paul or John's birthplaces, nor the first houses they lived in.


Well as long as Admiral Grove is ok, I can live with it (what choice do I have?). But there's nothing interesting about new homes or condos.
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kingjjj8 said:

We should all fight to make any Beatle related building a landmark!!!!!!! And i mean fight in a peaceful way! Like a sit in. a-hard-days-night-john-5


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21 January 2011
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In October, I went on a trip to see John and Paul's houses in Liverpool, and there was time at the end to see Madryn Street. I don't know if anyone else has seen, but there's quite a lot of graffiti on the now boarded-up door and windows. Someone has even written "Don't knock me down" (a play on "Don't let me down").

22 January 2011
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I've read that fans have been stealing bricks from the house. Did you see any evidence of that?

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22 January 2011
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Liverpool council has put metal grilles on all the windows in the condemned streets, but Ringo's has extra bits around the edges because apparently people kept chipping away at them. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14


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23 January 2011
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Oh no! The first I heard of this was on the local news here (the weird thing is I live in Texas...) and I was M-A-D. Why do they have to do this? IT WILL RUIN MY TRIP TO LIVERPOOL WHERE I GO TO ALL THE BEATLE RELATED THINGS!blue-meanie

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Nigel the good dog said:

Oh no! The first I heard of this was on the local news here (the weird thing is I live in Texas...) and I was M-A-D. Why do they have to do this? IT WILL RUIN MY TRIP TO LIVERPOOL WHERE I GO TO ALL THE BEATLE RELATED THINGS!blue-meanie

haha, I have to admit, that made me laugh. I mean, I saw that on the news when it was announced and I was like "I live in California... I'm on the other shining sea". But what's happening to George's birthplace if John and Paul's are safe (for now)? And I thought that Ringo said that he didn't mind, either.

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15 June 2011
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Really, why care? This is a ghosttown and unimportant. I love you Ringo, but I haven't any desire to go to the Dingle.

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15 June 2011
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Ringo said in a interwiew:

Yes, I've heard the building will be teared, but it's OK.

Just so many memories.

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17 January 2015
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From the Liverpool Echo:

The government has stepped in to block Liverpool council’s plans to demolish and rebuild some of the houses in Welsh Streets.

Last year Liverpool leaders and anti-demolition campaigners gave evidence to an inquiry on whether Liverpool’s regeneration plans for the Welsh Streets – including a house where Beatle Ringo Starr once lived as young child – could be given the go-ahead.

But although the planning inspector recommended planning permission be given, the communities secretary Eric Pickles stepped in to block the proposals.

More at the link.

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23 March 2015
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*dusts off topic* (I wasn't here when this was "hot".)

This has been raging on for years and I've been able to follow the story quite well on BBC North West news, as well as other sources. I've picked up the three main points: 

-The NT refuse to buy both Ringo and George's homes as they "are not looking to get a set of four." They bought Mendips and Forthlin Road as they were where Lennon/McCartney worked together in the early days and were "relevant to the start of the Beatles." More fool them though. People would pay to see Ringo and Georges homes too. (A tour company in Liverpool offer tailor made tours including a George Harrison and Ringo Starr tour so people pay to go and see these places.)

-The house in question is literally crumbling down. This argument has gone on so long the house is so dilapidated it's beyond repair. Much like the rest of the houses on the street, it has succumbed to terrible damp (among other things). The only outcome of all of this, despite all the protesting and arguments is the house will just collapse.

-Ringo himself has said he does not care about the house. This makes sense as he moved out at such an early age and probably never went back. It doesn't hold much significance for him. Yes he was literally born in the house but obviously he doesn't remember it, and he barely remembers living there.

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