The Beatles Bible - Topic: Who wrote what songs?

Funny Paper on Who wrote what songs?

Tue, 06 Nov 2012 01:29:38 +0000

I'm sorry, but the chords at the "e-chords" site make more sense to me, and more importantly, WORK when I play along:

D7 I asked a girl what she

G wanted to be

etc repeat

Dmsus7/A but you can do something in between

Bm7 Baby, you can drive my

G car

Bm7 Yes, I'm going to be a

G star

Bm7 Baby, you can drive my

E7 car, and

Am maybe I

D love you

G A

A -- beep beep beep beep yeah D

G A

solo: D7 G D7 G D7 G Dm7/A

etc.

gotagoodreason on Who wrote what songs?

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:29:37 +0000

The point is, like you said, not every note has to be played (besides this is a great lesson : "less is more").

Drive My Car is built on the riff bass/guitar in unison all the way through, so the only places where proper chords are played is when the piano comes in. I've always found it intriguing when it stops on the A before the end of the chorus, letting the riff run its way : no need of more, we know where we are !

However, the reason why we can say the last line of the verses is in ...

Funny Paper on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:12:08 +0000

gotagoodreason said

Funny Paper said
Ah, interesting: that's a C suspended chord. Not surprisingly, the "Ultimate Guitar" website has the chords all different: alternating from D7 to G7 (in the key of D apparently), then for the "But you can do something in between" line, they say it's just A. Doesn't sound right; it does sound like a sus chord, as you say.

No, actually your source is right : it is an A chord obviously (both bass and guitar play it rather earnestly) but with the C, F and G notes sung on top of it, which makes it ...

gotagoodreason on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:52:18 +0000

paulsbass said

You got it wrong imo, as I explained John is coming in from the left on that special part and is very clearly audible with his nasal and rough sound. If you hear and believe something different, so be it.

After listening very closely and several times to that particular line in the vocal track, I have to say the doubt is creeping in... I tried to leave any pre-conceived idea that George sings and I noticed that at the end of the line, the mysterious singer lets his 'you' last just a little longer than Paul's each of the 4 times. ...

paulsbass on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 18:22:53 +0000

gotagoodreason said
1) In the verses, Paul & undoubtedly John for the lower part

2) Last line of verses (note how well work C, F & G !) + chorus : Paul, George & John

3) BUT there's only one singer along with Paul on 'and maybe I'll love you' and from what I've always heard, it is George (especially after the words 'maybe' and 'I', sorry but his accent sounds different from John's !).

To be continued...

Ok, folks, not intending to turn this into another A day in the life thread...

You got it wrong imo, as I explained John is coming ...

gotagoodreason on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:58:40 +0000

paulsbass said
Verses: It IS just Paul, imo, duetting with himself on the lower vocal. Listen to the third verse "I got no car", that deep stuff sounds very much like Paul.

On the "but I can show you a better time" George and John join in.

Chorus is sung by Paul, John and George who can be heard quite well.

The "maybe I love you" is DEFINITELY sung by Paul (maybe also George) and JOHN, who comes in from the left especially at that part, check it out.

Actually these 3 buddies blended SO well together that it's hard to tell...

Sooo... let's check ...

paulsbass on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 13:20:52 +0000

F#*! Utimate guitar! I'll never understand why so many people rely on that site...

You are right about the three voices, that what I wanted to add, too. But Paul and George? I will have to check that out.

Sooo:

Verses: It IS just Paul, imo, duetting with himself on the lower vocal. Listen to the third verse "I got no car", that deep stuff sounds very much like Paul.

On the "but I can show you a better time" George and John join in.

Chorus is sung by Paul, John and George who can be heard quite well.

The "maybe I love you" is DEFINITELY ...

gotagoodreason on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:49:34 +0000

Funny Paper said
Ah, interesting: that's a C suspended chord. Not surprisingly, the "Ultimate Guitar" website has the chords all different: alternating from D7 to G7 (in the key of D apparently), then for the "But you can do something in between" line, they say it's just A. Doesn't sound right; it does sound like a sus chord, as you say.

No, actually your source is right : it is an A chord obviously (both bass and guitar play it rather earnestly) but with the C, F and G notes sung on top of it, which makes it very bluesy because ...

Ben Ramon on Who wrote what songs?

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 11:37:06 +0000

paulsbass said

robert said
To add wood the fire, it's the same in If I Fell - although there's 3 part harmony John is doing the main melody. Same with This Boy - John's part is the actual melody.

Well, in these two songs (This boy and Yes it is) for me it's a three part harmony in the verses, and I have a hard time saying which one is the actual melody, but in the middle eights it's just John (with some Aaahs from George and Paul), so there's no mistake.

If I fell: Lead vocal John with a ...

Funny Paper on Who wrote what songs?

Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:01:18 +0000

gotagoodreason said

Funny Paper said
If I may -- I will delineate the vocals in "Drive My Car":

(...)

But you can do something in between
[here both voices mingle more closely and it's difficult to distinguish Paul]

- the first is sung by 3 voices (notes : C-F(lead)-G), Paul probably singing the highest note of this terrific harmony (the close second between F and G is what makes it so terrific) ;

Ah, interesting: that's a C suspended chord. Not surprisingly, the "Ultimate Guitar" website has the chords all different: alternating from D7 to G7 (in the key ...

gotagoodreason on Who wrote what songs?

Sat, 03 Nov 2012 12:40:30 +0000

Funny Paper said
If I may -- I will delineate the vocals in "Drive My Car":

(...)

But you can do something in between
[here both voices mingle more closely and it's difficult to distinguish Paul]

(...)

And maybe I love you
[Here, John's voice seems dominant]

[etc.]

You're absolutely right, except for these 2 lines :

- the first is sung by 3 voices (notes : C-F(lead)-G), Paul probably singing the highest note of this terrific harmony (the close second between F and G is what makes it so terrific) ;

- the line ...

Funny Paper on Who wrote what songs?

Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:16:25 +0000

Joe said

Funny Paper said

I know this site here, the Beatles Bible, lists actual author for each song -- but where did they get that info?

From hundreds of books, interviews, videos and other sources I've accumulated over the past 20 years.

Thanks Joe!

Funny Paper on Who wrote what songs?

Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:09:19 +0000

If I may -- I will delineate the vocals in "Drive My Car" (and will also thusly "indicate precisely what I mean to say"):

Asked a girl what she wanted to be
She said baby, "Can't you see
I wanna be famous, a star on the screen

[both Paul and John are singing, but Paul's voice cuts through louder and higher and with that recognizable inimitable McCartney je ne sais quoi tonality to his voice, while John is doing some very interesting lower-part harmony, but definitely subtle, not dominant]

But you can do something ...

Von Bontee on Who wrote what songs?

Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:53:31 +0000

OK, I understand your point (and Robert's) & won't argue about it. I just wanted to make sure you weren't claiming that Paul double-tracked his voice so he could sing harmony with himself!

I accept your interpretation of "lead".

paulsbass on Who wrote what songs?

Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:40:31 +0000

robert said
To add wood the fire, it's the same in If I Fell - although there's 3 part harmony John is doing the main melody. Same with This Boy - John's part is the actual melody.

Well, in these two songs (This boy and Yes it is) for me it's a three part harmony in the verses, and I have a hard time saying which one is the actual melody, but in the middle eights it's just John (with some Aaahs from George and Paul), so there's no mistake.

If I fell: Lead vocal John with a very strong ...