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8 September 2010
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I was listening to Abbey Road, and I've come to the conclusion I like the Moog in Because, but not in Here Comes The Sun. It works for me in Because because it gives it a New Age kind of feel, but in Here Comes The Sun? I would have preferred more "natural" sounds. It just takes me out of the song, which is a shame. Perhaps I'll come back to it in a month and see if I still feel the same way.

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8 September 2010
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I don't mind it in either. But then I can't really imagine those songs with different arrangements - they got everything just right in the studio so many times.

I once read someone say that one of The Beatles' strengths was, when they got this strange new synthesizer instrument, they didn't plaster their recordings with it (well, George did on Electronic Sound, but let's ignore that). Abbey Road would have been terrible if they'd gone overboard with it.

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8 September 2010
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One thing's for sure, it sounded TERRIBLE on Maxwell's Silver Hammer.

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I sort of like it on Here Comes The Sun, it gives the song kind of a trippy feel.

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8 September 2010
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I don't mind the moog in Here Comes The Sun. But then again, I don't see any problem in Here Comes The Sun...a-hard-days-night-george-5

 

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8 September 2010
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GniknuS said:

I sort of like it on Here Comes The Sun, it gives the song kind of a trippy feel.


Me too! I feel exactly the same thing.

 

By the way: it's a moog or minimoog? I mean, the moog is huge and I readed that's very hard to program it.

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8 September 2010
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It was a Moog IIIp, with a separate keyboard and ribbon controller. McCartney played the ribbon on Maxwell's Silver Hammer, a bit like the Tannerin on Good Vibrations.

The Moog was huge back then, you're right. The mark III apparently was the biggest, but the p stood for portable! It had two massive banks of dials and settings - there's a pic in Andy Babiuk's book The Beatles' Gear.

They also used it for the white noise on I Want You (She's So Heavy).

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8 September 2010
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Marcelo said:

GniknuS said:

I sort of like it on Here Comes The Sun, it gives the song kind of a trippy feel.


Me too! I feel exactly the same thing.
 

By the way: it's a moog or minimoog? I mean, the moog is huge and I readed that's very hard to program it.


The mini wasn't marketed until 1971; and, yes, the full-on Moog took an incredibly long time to program. If they'd indeed decided to go overboard and plaster Abbey Road  with its sounds, it wouldn't have been released until after they'd broken up!

BTW, I think it sounds just fine on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and "Here Comes The Sun" and, well, everywhere! (Including Electronic Sound.) But I admit I'm a bit of a Moog fetishist.

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9 September 2010
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GniknuS said:

I sort of like it on Here Comes The Sun, it gives the song kind of a trippy feel.


But it's not a trippy song? Oh well, I figured it was just me. a-hard-days-night-george-4
 

So how huge is huge?

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About this big: http://matrixsynth.blogspot.co.....12000.html

Another pic here: http://matrixsynth.blogspot.co.....-iiip.html – the ribbon controller used on Maxwell is at the front.

EDIT this wasn't George's actual Moog; the ribbon controller was similar but not the same.

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9 September 2010
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Yes, George was one of the first to use a Moog on any recordings.

9 September 2010
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Even the little one is intimidating. There were no manuals with the early ones, right?

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As George says on the "Here Comes The Sun" article: "There wasn't an instruction manual, and even if there had been it would probably have been a couple of thousand pages long."

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9 September 2010
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Joe said:

About this big: http://matrixsynth.blogspot.co.....12000.html

Another pic here  – the ribbon controller used on Maxwell is at the front.

EDIT this wasn't George's actual Moog; the ribbon controller was similar but not the same.


Holy Cow!! That looks to the first ENIAC computers!! (I didn't know them, I had computer history classes)

I wonder if you had to insert those computer punch cards to program them a-hard-days-night-john-3

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9 September 2010
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skye said:

GniknuS said:

I sort of like it on Here Comes The Sun, it gives the song kind of a trippy feel.


But it's not a trippy song? Oh well, I figured it was just me. a-hard-days-night-george-4
 

I don't think it's intentionally trippy, but when I listen to it with headphones the synthesizer gives it that sort of feel.
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GniknuS said:

skye said:

GniknuS said:

I sort of like it on Here Comes The Sun, it gives the song kind of a trippy feel.


But it's not a trippy song? Oh well, I figured it was just me. a-hard-days-night-george-4

 


I don't think it's intentionally trippy, but when I listen to it with headphones the synthesizer gives it that sort of feel.
 

I feel that is totally trippy, last remains of LSD in blood for George.a-hard-days-night-george-8
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Ok sorry for my ignorance.. but what's exactly trippy? To me, it's a song that sounds as if you were high..a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

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mithveaen said:

Ok sorry for my ignorance.. but what's exactly trippy? To me, it's a song that sounds as if you were high..a-hard-days-night-ringo-13


You've more or less defined it. It makes you feel like you're on a LSD trip.
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11 September 2010
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skye said:

mithveaen said:

Ok sorry for my ignorance.. but what's exactly trippy? To me, it's a song that sounds as if you were high..a-hard-days-night-ringo-13


You've more or less defined it. It makes you feel like you're on a LSD trip.
 

Well, that's not really what I meant, I guess trippy is the wrong word. It's just out there, it's such a positive and sensitive song, but its still George, so there's a little bit of a twist to his sentimentality. It's like your avatar mithveaen, it's just George and George is just so damn cool. a-hard-days-night-george-1
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Thanks about my avatar. I also love it. It's my all time favorite George moment, (and he wasn't even part of it)

 

I think I know what you mean. Here Comes The Sun is a song with a very delicate balance. It's uplifting, it's positive, it's about nice cool things, but at the same time, it's not sappy, because it has the George factor, something in the song that tells you it's honest.

 

So yeah, It's like George... and George is cool! a-hard-days-night-george-6

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