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Bass: Paul v. George
11 July 2010
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I know most of you will say Paul here but think about it, George played bass on Old Brown Shoe and She Said She Said and those songs had terrific bass lines. There's more but I can't think of any. So far I say George because he was such a lunatic on it.

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12 July 2010
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Yeah, definitely George. He played on the album version of Rock And Roll Music and he also played on Birthday.

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12 July 2010
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I think they were both equally good at both the bass and guitar… and I usually fight for George on these kind of things, but I really think they're both great. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

The "Old Brown Shoe" bassline is insane. a-hard-days-night-george-4

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12 July 2010
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A Fiendish Thingy said:

I think they were both equally good at both the bass and guitar… and I usually fight for George on these kind of things, but I really think they're both great. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

The "Old Brown Shoe" bassline is insane. a-hard-days-night-george-4


Drive My Car had a great bassline too. Props to L'Angelo Mysterioso a-hard-days-night-george-5
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12 July 2010
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Well it's obviously impossible to say that George was better than Paul, but I've been listening to the Lennon bass songs, particularly Rocky Raccoon and they are pretty funny. I mean, they aren't exactly great bass lines because there doesn't seem to a pattern to any of his playing, but he's getting the job done. He adds a lot of color to that song with his bass line as well as his harmonica playing.

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12 July 2010
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GniknuS said:

Well it's obviously impossible to say that George was better than Paul, but I've been listening to the Lennon bass songs, particularly Rocky Raccoon and they are pretty funny. I mean, they aren't exactly great bass lines because there doesn't seem to a pattern to any of his playing, but he's getting the job done. He adds a lot of color to that song with his bass line as well as his harmonica playing.


I think Paul was the light-noted one where as George really tried to keep on rhythm. That's why I like George better, he didn't focus on being fancy he focused on getting the timing right.
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12 July 2010
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MrBig said:

GniknuS said:

Well it's obviously impossible to say that George was better than Paul, but I've been listening to the Lennon bass songs, particularly Rocky Raccoon and they are pretty funny. I mean, they aren't exactly great bass lines because there doesn't seem to a pattern to any of his playing, but he's getting the job done. He adds a lot of color to that song with his bass line as well as his harmonica playing.


I think Paul was the light-noted one where as George really tried to keep on rhythm. That's why I like George better, he didn't focus on being fancy he focused on getting the timing right.
 

I guess I've never really compared the two though, and you're right his playing particularly on Old Brown Shoe and Birthday is quite surprising considering that he can't have had that much practice on the instrument. Ok, I'll listen to his bass songs, then follow them with my favorites of Macca's; The Word, Come Together, Rain, and Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds.
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12 July 2010
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According to Revolution in the Head, Paul played the bassline on Old Brown Shoe while George tracked it with the guitar

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12 July 2010
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Paulrus said:

According to Revolution in the Head, Paul played the bassline on Old Brown Shoe while George tracked it with the guitar


George said in an interview that he played bass: http://www.creemmagazine.com/_…..ew001.html
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12 July 2010
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Ah, okay then. Speaking of John playing bass, listen to the bass on The Long and Winding Road. It's horrible

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12 July 2010
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Paulrus said:

Ah, okay then. Speaking of John playing bass, listen to the bass on The Long and Winding Road. It's horrible


He was probably too bored.
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12 July 2010
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MrBig said:

A Fiendish Thingy said:

I think they were both equally good at both the bass and guitar… and I usually fight for George on these kind of things, but I really think they're both great. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

The "Old Brown Shoe" bassline is insane. a-hard-days-night-george-4


Drive My Car had a great bassline too. Props to L'Angelo Mysterioso a-hard-days-night-george-5
 

But Paul played on Drive My Car, according to this website
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12 July 2010
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George said in an interview that he played bass in that. I believe it too. It's very Georgie.

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12 July 2010
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I think he said that in the Anthology, but I think he said that Paul played it in 1977.

Either way, it doesn't really matter. It's still an awesome bassline

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12 July 2010
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MrBig said:

I know most of you will say Paul here but think about it, George played bass on Old Brown Shoe and She Said She Said and those songs had terrific bass lines. There's more but I can't think of any. So far I say George because he was such a lunatic on it.


 

 Tell me this thread is a joke.

It must be.

No one in his right mind would seriously consider George a better bass player than Paul McCartney, the man who created all those bass lines on the "Sgt. Peppers" album and on "Abbey Road" and so many others (While my guitar, Paperback writer, Hey bulldog, Tomorrow never knows, Taxman, I saw her standing there etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc etc.)

Ok, George played a (very) few excellent riffs on the bass. Fine. Macca did hundreds of excellent bass lines just with the Beatles! And I don't just mean a riff, like on "Old brown shoe", but real bass work. Check out the Sgt. Peppers album, as I said, and learn about the possibilities of this often underrated instrument.

another great early example is "Nowhere man", not usually known for the bass work. But listen how Paul spices up the totally simple chords with rhythmic and melodic finesse.

"She said, she said" is a fantastic guitar song – and has one of the most "boring" bass lines of any Beatles song. I always wondered why Paul didn't put more effort into it – then I realized it wasn't him at all, but just George doing a solid, but boring bass.

So in a way you proved that Paul was OBVIOUSLY the FAR better bass player. I think George would have been embarrassed when confronted with this theory.

I still can't believe you were NOT joking…

12 July 2010
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 So glad that you live up to your name, paulbass.

I don't know. If in a parallel universe George took up the bass, and Paul guitar, then notUs are probably having the same converstion. They're both very talented, creative people, so why should I be surprised at George not only playing bass, but playing it well?

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12 July 2010
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skye said:

a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 So glad that you live up to your name, paulbass.

I don't know. If in a parallel universe George took up the bass, and Paul guitar, then notUs are probably having the same converstion. They're both very talented, creative people, so why should I be surprised at George not only playing bass, but playing it well?


 

Indeed!a-hard-days-night-paul-1

The question was not: Is GH capable of playing the bass well, the question was, is GH a better bass player than PM.

While many would state that Paul was a better guitarist than George (considering his work on Taxman, Drive my car, Good morning, Ticket to ride, Helter Skelter, Sgt. Peppers, and all this beautiful acoustic stuff)  George would be the last to claim the bass playing crown in the Beatles. That is just ridiculous.

12 July 2010
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I just assume that the bass is the same difficulty as the guitar, not strumming, you know? a-hard-days-night-paul-1 I've never actually touched a bass guitar, so…

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12 July 2010
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paulsbass said:

MrBig said:

I know most of you will say Paul here but think about it, George played bass on Old Brown Shoe and She Said She Said and those songs had terrific bass lines. There's more but I can't think of any. So far I say George because he was such a lunatic on it.


 

 Tell me this thread is a joke.

It must be.

No one in his right mind would seriously consider George a better bass player than Paul McCartney, the man who created all those bass lines on the "Sgt. Peppers" album and on "Abbey Road" and so many others (While my guitar, Paperback writer, Hey bulldog, Tomorrow never knows, Taxman, I saw her standing there etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc etc.)

Ok, George played a (very) few excellent riffs on the bass. Fine. Macca did hundreds of excellent bass lines just with the Beatles! And I don't just mean a riff, like on "Old brown shoe", but real bass work. Check out the Sgt. Peppers album, as I said, and learn about the possibilities of this often underrated instrument.

another great early example is "Nowhere man", not usually known for the bass work. But listen how Paul spices up the totally simple chords with rhythmic and melodic finesse.

"She said, she said" is a fantastic guitar song – and has one of the most "boring" bass lines of any Beatles song. I always wondered why Paul didn't put more effort into it – then I realized it wasn't him at all, but just George doing a solid, but boring bass.

So in a way you proved that Paul was OBVIOUSLY the FAR better bass player. I think George would have been embarrassed when confronted with this theory.

I still can't believe you were NOT joking…


Yeah this thread is the equivalent of saying that Paul was a better drummer than Ringo, but only having 3 real examples of Paul's drumming with the Beatles as compared to hundreds by Ringo.
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12 July 2010
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GniknuS said:


Yeah this thread is the equivalent of saying that Paul was a better drummer than Ringo, but only having 3 real examples of Paul's drumming with the Beatles as compared to hundreds by Ringo.
 

 

Excactly.

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