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Please Please Me - song ranking
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PLEASE PLEASE ME (1963) AVERAGED RANK

This is a copy paste:

I decided to go on a task of continuing and updating list of every post averaged in the thread to create a decent ranking of the tracks off every album. In this case Please Please Me . I clarify my process and rules below.

1 – I Saw Her Standing There (550 points)

2 – Twist and Shout (538 points)

3 – Please Please Me (499 points)

4 – Anna (Go to Him) (362 points)

5 – There’s a Place (317 points)

6 – Love Me Do (292 points)

7 – Misery (291 points)

8 – Baby It’s You (283 points)

9 – Do You Want to Know a Secret (260 points)

10 – Boys (259 points)

11 – Ask Me Why (247 points)

12 – P.S. I Love You (227 points)

13 – Chains (193 points)

14 – A Taste Of Honey (116 points)

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Averaging process and rules:

A pretty classic averaging system; it goes basically by giving the maximum amount of points to the top track on every post (in this case 13) and as the list progresses into the “worst” tracks each track gets one point less. The last track gets no points. For this to apply the post must have the 14 Please Please Me songs ranked.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Particular cases:

-NO. 1- Sometimes if there is a track missing but there’s a written clarification, it can be counted. In the case of Abbey Road , for instance, some people don’t count Her Majesty . In that case I count the post and give no points to Her Majesty only if there is a written statement of why its missing. If one track is missing and the post doesn’t have any written clarification then it is considered a mistake and therefore disqualified.

-NO. 2- The tracklist considered is taken out of the Wikipedia/RYM/Discogs “official” tracklists. This means those who rank the Abbey Road Medley as a whole don’t get counted unless they clarify by writing that the tracks separately also rank that way, same with any variation of the sort.

-NO. 3- If a person implies to a previous post that “that would exactly be [their] ranking” and don’t post any ranking themselves, then the points of the first person will be added a second time in behalf of the second person.

-NO. 4- Only one person each ranking. If you posted several times your changes, only the last one will be counted (unless it has any mistakes, missing tracks, etc., in that case then the last one that has no issues will be the one counted).

-NO. 5- The rankings are considered given the numbers apply to them, “1” universally represents the top spot. Unless there is a written statement that clarifies it’s the other way around, this is the way it will be counted.

-NO. 6- If there are no numbers on the ranking and no written clarification it could go either way. At first I used to think the ones at the top were the number 1 spot but in some cases it just isn’t that way. So I decided I’ll just grab the worst rated track up to that point and I see if it falls on the top half or the bottom half. If it falls on the top half I’ll consider the bottom half the top spot and if it falls on the bottom half then I’ll consider the top half the top spot. It might be unfair at times as it might reverse someones’ ranking if they are unlucky by voting positively a previously negatively voted track, but in the grand scheme of things I think it was mostly accurate. In case that the number of tracks is odd (A Hard Day’s Night , Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine ‘s Side B & Abbey Road ) and the worst rated track falls in precisely the middle spot then I just take the second to worst rated and judge as to where that one falls.

-NO. 7- If there are “ties” in someone’s ranking their ranking can still be counted but it won’t represent exactly the ties in the overall averaging. If there is still a list-like format then I go from the bottom to the top adding points just like usual, so tied tracks can get different scores but just differing in one single point or two (unless you tie like 5 tracks together), but I think it’s more fair than not letting those people participate at all. It might seem unfair but if the tied tracks were to get the same points, it would increasingly leave an averaging gap between those songs so it’s mathematically better to just stick to the original adding process.

-NO. 8- If there are two tracks that are “tied” then I will just give more points to the one that is named first, regardless of descriptions, just to keep the whole thing going. Unless there’s a specific written clarification of why one of the tracks is better or more of a favourite, then I’ll just give more points to the one named first.

-NO. 9- However, if there’s a tie between three tracks (or more) then that post will no longer be counted unless the list has a specific ranking format in which case see item “-NO. 7-“.

-NO. 10- I guess that if someone doesn’t want to be counted in the averaging he can ask me not to count him in but I hope nobody does that so we get his opinion tooahdn_john_08_gif

All of these rules are up to debate if someone disagrees with part of the judgement. I’m sure we can reach an agreement if they are considered questionable.

IMPORTANT: if you think one of your rankings might have one of these ambiguous qualities that might disqualify it and you want to be counted in the averaging DON’T edit it; post it again with more detail, otherwise I won’t be able to subtract the points and add them again and it won’t be counted anyway.a-hard-days-night-paul-11

Also here’s a playlist with the results from worst to best in case you want to see how effective it proves in practice (I’ll try edit these as well):

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In this topic I’ll take the challenge to rank every song from Please Please Me . The result of the ranking depends on melody and catchiness, and “Please Please” let me know your opinion! a-hard-days-night-ringo-15 I will make topics like this later for the other albums.

 

14) A Taste Of Honey

13) P.S. I Love You

12) Misery

11) Chains

10) Anna (Go to Him)

9) There’s a Place

8) Boys

7) Love Me Do

6) Do You Want To Know A Secret

5) Twist And Shout

4) Please Please Me

3) Ask Me Why

2) Baby It’s You

1) I Saw Her Standing There

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  1. Theres A Place
  2. I Saw Her Standing There ‘ 
  3. Twist And Shout
  4. Anna (Go With Him)
  5. Misery
  6. Chains
  7. Do You Want To Know A Secret  
  8. Baby Its You
  9. Boys
  10. Ask Me Why
  11. Please, Please Me
  12. Love Me Do
  13. P.S. I Love You
  14. Taste of Honey

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I love making lists! 

1. I Saw Her Standing There

2. Twist And Shout

3. Baby It’s You

4. Please Please Me

5. There’s a Place

6. Boys

7. Anna (Go to Him)

8. Misery

9. P.S I Love You

10. Love Me Do

11. Chains

12. Ask Me Why

13. Do You Want To Know A Secret

14. A Taste Of Honey

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I can’t tell you how I enjoy all 14 but I do enjoy listening to these top 6 in my opinion on my record player. My #1 is Boys because it is sang by Ringo.

 

1) Boys

2) Twist And Shout

3) Love Me Do

4) Please, Please Me

5) Chains

6) Anna

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I’m sorry, but it’s gotta start off with the famous 1-2-3-4,  I Saw Her Standing There , finally it’s gotta end with Twist And Shout as we all know it was the last song they had to record that night and John had to sing it with a sore throat.

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This was an amazing album. Every cut was a hit. I was just a young kid at the time but I was already accustomed to the idea that an album had two maybe three good songs on it and the rest was just filler. This was an album you could never grow tired of hearing. 

But for me beginning with that count off of “a 123 faw!” And capping it off with Twist And Shout is the definition of musical joy. 

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