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Please Please Me: Remaking A Classic
24 January 2013
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note: two threads merged by meanmistermustard on the 25th September 2014.: thread one consisted of the thread title and posts 5 ->21, thread two of posts 1 -> 4.

brief extract:

The event, which takes place on 11 February, will be broadcast live on BBC Radio 2.

It will also be filmed for a BBC Four special called 12 Hours to Please Me, which will be screened on 15 February.

 

More info here

24 January 2013
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Adding this to Beatles News, which is probably where it should be.

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24 January 2013
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mja6758 said
Adding this to Beatles News, which is probably where it should be.

Ok thanks..i wasn't sure but i saw there was a 'radio' thread so I put it here!

cheers

 

24 January 2013
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Not a problem, or criticism. Great discovery. Just think more people check additions to Beatles News (which is in Yesterday... and today). Best place to put upcoming events.

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16 February 2013
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Was under a different title but deleted that and made it more general.

I know mja has watched as it was mentioned in another thread but anyone seen it and got any thoughts?

Seems a decent documentary which appears researched properly, avoiding stupid mistakes which often pop up in Beatles programmes and films (well so far - not seen it all yet). The covers are good, not just straight renditions but a few have been retwisted by the artist singing it which is pleasing. And appears as tho the folk there actually knew the songs not just turning up to get on tv.

One question -  it said that Do You Want To Know A Secret was about John being married but having to hush it up in case it alienated fans by order of Brian - anyone heard that before?

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16 February 2013
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No that was the first time I heard it- loved that rendition of it. Loved the documentary about Brian Epstein afterwards too

16 February 2013
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My overall thoughts on the programe? Taking it track by track to begin with. I will listen to each track again before commenting.

Gabrielle Aplin — There's a Place: A beautiful version of a much underrated song. Haven't heard  many covers of this, this is a devastatingly good re-reading. Never heard of her before, going off hunting for her original material. What a voice! Her guitar was rather lost against the strings.

Stereophonics — I Saw Her Standing There: Disappointing. I've heard them cover The Beatles better before. Not enough of a twist for me. One of those Beatles I would call nice and polite. I don't tend to like nice and polite.

Joss Stone — A Taste Of Honey: A terrific soul-baroque version of what's quite a strange song.

Ian Broudie — Do You Want To Know A Secret: Never heard Tony Barrow's interpretation of the song before, though he's probably come out with it somewhere or other. Don't all these people like to say they know something we don't? A good reading, nicely cracked vocal. More Lennon than Harrison.

Paul Carrack — Misery: Pleasant. Misery should never sound pleasant.

God! I have two TVs on at the moment, and the other is showing Tina Turner doing Help! Now that is Misery! One of my least favourite Beatle covers. Glad the sound isn't up.

Chris Difford and Glen Tilbrook featuring Paul Jones — Please Please Me: A pedestrian cover lacking the balls and punch of the original. Sounds nice towards the end.

Paul Jones comments about Delbert McClinton influence on John are nonsense. A long known fact.

Mick Hucknell — Anna (Go to Him): A great reading of John Lennon doing Arthur Alexander. What more could be expected?

The Merseybeats and Friends — Boys: Beyond criticism. Merseybeat musicians playing Merseybeat. Great to see Howie Casey, who worked with Paul in the 70s, still alive and kicking.

I Am Kloot — Chains: Love it. A great twist on the original. They take it into leather and S&M that The Beatles could barely have imagined before they met Keith Moon!

Graham Coxon — Baby It's You: The longer, more awkward, Burt Bacharach on the day is interesting. Like the conversation between Coxon and Machonie. A nice, pleasant version of the song.

Beverley Knight — Twist And Shout: I don't believe Alan Smith's account of how they came to record it. Beverley Knight — one of the great British voices — as overblown as it is, what's not to like.

My overall view? Disappointed. Too many big bands for my liking. Seen two exercises like this before. The BBC's attempt at re-recording Sgt Pepper on the same equipment, which didn't work as well as they might have wanted, but was fascinating television. Channel 4's take on Abbey Road, which had some on my all-time favourite Beatles covers. This I would place third out of three. Had there not been so many strings, backing vocals, and guitars, I would have liked it more.

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16 February 2013
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Mojo Magazine presented a various artists version of Abbey Road also, and included it with an issue a few years ago. Tilbrook showed up on that one too, along with a few guys I like OK (Robyn Hitchcock, Cornershop), a few I don't like (Gomez) and a whole bunch I never heard of. Don't recall it at all, except that I must've hated it - only played it once and tossed it.

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16 February 2013
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I didn't watch the whole thing, as we were actually watching a movie on another channel, so I was zapping between them during the commercial breaks. Only heard the first 3, Anna and Boys.

I only liked There's A Place and Anna (Go to him). I thought I Saw Her Standing There and Please Please Me were really disappointing. I know a cover should be original, but they just left out all the riffs and bits that MAKE the song imo. Plus they couldn't even get the higher notes. It just didn't have that ''thing'' the originals have.

The movie had finished so I switched back and Boys was on. I didn't like it. Hate saxophone solos too.

After Boys I decided to switch to another channel and not watch the rest of the thing. It was disappointing and I only knew who Gabrielle Aplin, Joss Stone and The Stereophonics were. Probably would've been more interesting if there had been some bigger artists.

What was fun though, was that you could see where they actually recorded it and all, and that they told stuff about how it was originally recorded and everything. I liked that, even though I couldn't really hear half of it as I'm partially deaf and the subtitles weren't functioning too well :(

16 February 2013
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The only complaints i had were with

Please Please Me and I Saw Her Standing There - both lacking any balls whats so ever.

Twist And Shout - never been a fan of Beverly Knight & too overblown for my taste.

The female backing vocals on Baby Its You were irritating, which was surprising as it was a girlgroup song and it was females doing it, but good otherwise.

Agree that Misery was pleasant and it shouldnt be that way. The Beatles made Misery upbeat yet sad sounding, maybe down to the opening in large part, like John and Paul were just getting thru the day with a false front.

So 5.5/10 covers which is a decent score.

I also dont buy the story of the journalist suggesting Twist And Shout to the Beatles, think thats another person to add to the pile of people butting in and trying to claim a role in Beatles history. Somehow missed the Delbert McClinton influence comments, i was typing on this site at that point. Am sceptical over the claims of DYWTKAS origins to say the least.

Other that that not a bad effort at all. Im not a huge fan of these type of programmes, probably because i watched that programme which had Jim Carrey and others ruining Beatles songs and put me off for life, but on the balance there were some really good covers with the highlight probably Gabrielle Alpin's There's A Place.

Will also add that i was hoping for a mammoth 585 minute dash to see if the artists involved could record the songs in that time from scratch, not just 1 live try but record it to an album release quality. I know the covers as recorded can now be released but to see the artists from scratch have to put the songs together without prior rehearsals would have been a more interesting twist for me.

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16 February 2013
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Didn´t think it was that great and I found the covers that I saw (I missed a few), except 'There´s A Place' done by Gabrielle Aplin to be quite hard to listen to. Having said that, I really can´t stand covers anyway (generally) so I wasn´t surprised that I didn´t really like them. As for the remark made about 'Do You Want To Know A Secret' being about John´s marriage, I´ve never heard that before, and they didn´t (I don´t think) mention the source, which to me means that it wasn´t a very reliable piece of info.

On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoyed the docu about Brian that was on afterwards. Arena seem to do a lot of these type of documentaries, and I´ve enjoyed all the ones I have seen.

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16 February 2013
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Didn't hear all of the covers, but I loved the versions of Chains and Twist And Shout. I wasn't mad on Squeeze though, it just didn't sound right. I agree with mja, there was a lot of overused backing vocals, which defated the point a bit and which we could've done without. Still, it was an interesting idea to mark the anniversary. I wonder what John would have thought of it all...a-hard-days-night-john-7

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10 March 2013
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Finally saw this, disliked most of it (as I expected to!) What the hell was the point of the adding all the string players on half of the songs? Why did Difford & Tilbrook leave out all the excellent instrumental fills and call/response vocals that propelled "Please Please Me" along? Why couldn't Ian Broudie strum his guitar properly? Why would I want to listen to a performer who calls himself I Am Kloot, especially when he rearranges "Chains" into a sour descending-minor ballad? And why does the prattish Mick Hucknall give one of my favourite performances here when I never could stand Simply Red? (Maybe because his is one of the only performances where the string players had something interesting to play?) Highlight: the electrifying Beverley Knight.

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13 March 2013
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I'm with you on most of that, but I Am Kloot (a band, not a person) are normally great - Sky At Night is a marvellous album. Chains was done in their style, so that's why they re-arranged it. I'd rather hear that than a straightforward cover version.

Yeah, Beverley Knight was very good. She's a bit of a powerhouse.

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13 March 2013
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OK then - I dislike it 28% less knowing that it's an entire band and not just the one individual - but I still find the practice of bandname-as-complete-sentence extremely irritating. (As opposed to individual's-name-as-complete-sentence, which is downright infuriating!) As for the performance itself, it's interesting what they did to the song; but the way they did it - grafting those descending minors onto a cheery 12-bar blues - I found extremely unpleasant. (It seemed to me at first that the chords were borrowed from "A Taste Of Honey", for whatever reason.) And the bleak vocal reinforced that. But I admit that all of this says more about my prejudices than the performance.

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13 March 2013
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I wouldn't say prejudices, vonbontee. I'd say tastes. I rather liked it, but different horses for different courses. I gave an opinion on the whole track by track the day of the broadcast further up this page. Here's my first reaction to I Am Kloot and Chains, quoting myself: "Love it. A great twist on the original. They take it into leather and S&M that The Beatles could barely have imagined before they met Keith Moon!"

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13 March 2013
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Yeah, I read your take on it in the original post, and I admit it made me appreciate their take on the song more "in theory", if not in actuality.

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Anyone know where I can at least hear these covers?

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You can watch it here IveJustSeenAFaceo

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