Wings | Page 3 | Paul McCartney | Fab forum

Please consider registering
Guest

Log In Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —

  

— Match —

   

— Forum Options —

   

Minimum search word length is 4 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

Wings
5 November 2012
11.37pm
Funny Paper
America
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2019
Member Since:
1 November 2012
Offline

"...I get the impression that he was more into Wings than The Beatles.  Such people exist!"

 

I once met someone so young, they hadn't ever heard of Wings, let alone the Beatles...

Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...
6 November 2012
12.01am
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 9850
Member Since:
1 May 2011
Online

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
6 November 2012
9.32pm
Into the Sky with Diamonds
New York
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 1297
Member Since:
10 August 2011
Offline
43

Meanmistermustard said, "Paul included tracks off McCartney on Wingspan (Maybe Im Amazed, Every Night, Junk, The Lovely Linda, Man We Was Lonely) so where does that take it to?"

 

Good point.

I suppose inclusion in the retrospective Wingspan doesn't tell us what was and wasn't Wings.

Then again, until this thread it didn't dawn on me that someone would care.

Is it fair to say McCartney doesn't either?

Everything in the 70s was perhaps part of a greater "wingspan" .... 

"Into the Sky with Diamonds" (the Beatles and the Race to the Moon – a history)
6 November 2012
10.16pm
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2172
Member Since:
14 December 2009
Offline
44

"Wingspan" didn't make any sense at all! (There were several hits on what was supposed to be the "History" disc.) Somebody must've just thought it was a clever-enough title.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
6 November 2012
11.01pm
Inner Light
Friar Park
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 506
Member Since:
20 December 2010
Offline
45

I loved the Wings period of McCartney's solo career. I still feel this is where he wrote his best songs as a solo artist. I have enjoyed some of the other songs that Denny Laine, Jimmy McCullough wrote as well. He was definitely on his game during this period. I remember Harrison saying once when someone asked him to play more Beatles songs, he said that if you want to hear the Beatles, listen to Wings.  

The further one travels, the less one knows
6 November 2012
11.33pm
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 9850
Member Since:
1 May 2011
Online
46

I find it strange that the Lovely Linda is on but Here Today is omitted. One of Pauls most poignant, heartfelt songs in his entire catalogue and it remains available only on Tug of War, an album most non-Paul fans wont go anywhere near.

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
6 November 2012
11.43pm
Ben Ramon
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 619
Member Since:
26 March 2012
Offline
47

Inner Light said
 I remember Harrison saying once when someone asked him to play more Beatles songs, he said that if you want to hear the Beatles, listen to Wings.  

That's a very interesting quote- do you think it was meant as something of a putdown? (maybe too strong a word- instead, a comment on how Macca had not sought out musical evolution as much as the other Beatles since the split?)

meanmistermustard said
I find it strange that the Lovely Linda is on but Here Today is omitted. One of Pauls most poignant, heartfelt songs in his entire catalogue and it remains available only on Tug of War, an album most non-Paul fans wont go anywhere near.

Very true, and I don't know why- I'd go so far as to say Tug of War was Paul's last flash of brilliance before the nadir of the 80s, and a great statement as the crucial record proving his relevance in the new decade. There's some mediocre work on there, of course, and sadly the Martin-McCartney mix isn't as potent as it was in the 60s, but Tug of War strikes me as far better than Wings' late-era albums.

SHUT UP - Paulie's talkin'
7 November 2012
12.33am
Funny Paper
America
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2019
Member Since:
1 November 2012
Offline
48

Can't remember the Lennon song, but early on (early 70s) he wrote a caustic retort aimed at Paul with a scathing line:

 

"Once you were Yesterday,

Now, you're just Another Day..."

 

(Personally, I like Another Day better than Yesterday; but then, I'm not a bitter ex-Beatle)

Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...
7 November 2012
12.35am
Inner Light
Friar Park
Candlestick Park
Forum Posts: 506
Member Since:
20 December 2010
Offline
49

Ben Ramon said

Inner Light said
 I remember Harrison saying once when someone asked him to play more Beatles songs, he said that if you want to hear the Beatles, listen to Wings.  

That's a very interesting quote- do you think it was meant as something of a putdown? (maybe too strong a word- instead, a comment on how Macca had not sought out musical evolution as much as the other Beatles since the split?)

meanmistermustard said
I find it strange that the Lovely Linda is on but Here Today is omitted. One of Pauls most poignant, heartfelt songs in his entire catalogue and it remains available only on Tug of War, an album most non-Paul fans wont go anywhere near.

Very true, and I don't know why- I'd go so far as to say Tug of War was Paul's last flash of brilliance before the nadir of the 80s, and a great statement as the crucial record proving his relevance in the new decade. There's some mediocre work on there, of course, and sadly the Martin-McCartney mix isn't as potent as it was in the 60s, but Tug of War strikes me as far better than Wings' late-era albums.

I think Paul wanted to keep the Beatle thing going and even though Wings is not the Beatles, he continued with the feel good type of music. I think John and George wanted to move onto something totally different and not cling to the past.

 

The further one travels, the less one knows
7 November 2012
9.15pm
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2172
Member Since:
14 December 2009
Offline
50

That Harrison "If they want to hear the Beatles..." quote was a remark he made during his 1974 tour. A very perplexing remark, since Paul/Wings were'nt playing any Beatles tunes at all at the time! (Whereas George was playing "Something" and apparently "In My Life".)

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
7 November 2012
9.38pm
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 9850
Member Since:
1 May 2011
Online
51

I think George meant what was said previously - that Paul hadnt evolved in his music away from the beatles, the sound was the same.

The song Funny Paper was referring to was How Do You Sleep?, and John's rebuke never worked for me as i love Another Day. Ive also never understood John saying that HDYS? was about himself by the way.

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
7 November 2012
10.00pm
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2172
Member Since:
14 December 2009
Offline
52

Hm, that makes sense - George insinuating that Paul's music hadn't evolved. Or possibly that Paul had so dominated the Beatles that anything he recorded was bound to sound familiar.

Supposedly it was Allan Klein who came up with the "You're just another day" line, which I think was pretty clever of him. (Surprised he didn't try to get co-writing credit on it!) And I suspect John simply found it easier to dismiss the song as partly being about himself than to try to excuse its excesses and admit it was written mostly in anger.

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
7 November 2012
10.33pm
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 9850
Member Since:
1 May 2011
Online
53

Wasnt Klein ripping off everyone so maybe he was feeling charitable? One of those 'ive taken 10,000 off you so i'll let you have 1'.

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
18 December 2012
5.02pm
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 9850
Member Since:
1 May 2011
Online
54

Propbably should be in another Macca thread but some journalist, Mike Lupica has been complaining that Paul played Wings songs instead of all beatles one reports the Beatles Examiner.

"Didn’t somebody tell Sir Paul McCartney, by the way, that nobody hung around until 1:30 in the morning to hear him take a trip down memory lane with Wings songs, they wanted to hear him sing, 'I Saw Her Standing There, Lupica wrote in the New York Daily News.

Shows a) the man knows nothing about Pauls fans and b) a great underappreciation for Paul and his work with Wings considering Paul sang Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five, Live and Let Die and Let Me Roll It, 3 classics.

 

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
19 December 2012
1.53am
thewordislove94
Ed Sullivan Show
Forum Posts: 198
Member Since:
12 November 2012
Offline
55

Paul's best work was done when he was in a band, or singing with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder. The music that the Wings generated was great, but George's quote from 1974 is correct. Members of the Wings complained that he was controlling. He may have been controlling during the Let it Be sessions, but with the Wings he was being a perfectionist.

"The world is a very serious and, at times, very sad place - but at other times it is all such a joke."-George Harrison
20 December 2012
5.31am
unknown
Nowhere Land
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 1233
Member Since:
5 November 2011
Offline
56

That guy must not be a Paul McCartney fan. I don't think that's too bad, it sounds like something I would say (but not about Paul). I think it was meant to be a joke, but the kind that he really thinks is true. It also said that guy's a sports person, so who cares what he has to say about Paul anyways?

All living things must abide by the laws of the shape they inhabit
20 December 2012
8.57pm
Velvet Hand
A Tunisian Amphitheatre
The Jacaranda
Forum Posts: 34
Member Since:
17 December 2012
Offline
57

Celebrated_Mr_K said
Karen Carpenter says, "Okay, "Close to You", on three."

Dudes! That's not funny! Karen Carpenter was a stunning singer and a capable drummer, and simply isn't someone you, uhm, make light of! Her version of "Ticket To Ride" is wonderful! Have you heard "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft (The Recognised Anthem of World Contact Day)"? It's druggier than "I Am The Walrus" sung by Courtney Love in a Munich disco in the late '70s! And it's originally by Klaatu who were once thought to be - döng - The Beatles!

Sorry for shouting.

I like Wild Life. It has "Tomorrow", "Dear Friend" and the lovely "Some People Never Know". The cover is great, too. But I think my favourite Wings album is probably Wings at the Speed of Sound. They all sing for a bit, Linda about food! It rocks ("Beware My Love"), bounces ("Silly Love Songs"), makes no sense ("Let 'em In"), and ends with "Warm and Beautiful", which is just that. Sigh.

20 December 2012
9.12pm
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 9850
Member Since:
1 May 2011
Online

Sorry but i find the Carpenters to be one of the most boring listening experiences i ever have had the mispleasure of experiencing. Everything they did was reduced to beige and i maintain that their cover of Please Mister Postman took a good song and turned it into one of the most mundane, boring pieces of bah ever. They took Help! and somehow made it boring. One of the worst car journeys i have ever had was when listening to their Greatest Hits simply because it was so incredibly dull.

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
20 December 2012
9.25pm
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2172
Member Since:
14 December 2009
Offline
59

Eh, they had their moments. Actually, Velvet Hand, I think I actually prefer their "Calling Occupants..." to Klaatu's original!

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
20 December 2012
10.11pm
Velvet Hand
A Tunisian Amphitheatre
The Jacaranda
Forum Posts: 34
Member Since:
17 December 2012
Offline
60

meanmistermustard said
their cover of Please Mister Postman took a good song and turned it into one of the most mundane, boring pieces of bah ever.

True, but it is also one of the prettiest mundane, boring pieces of bah ever.

The Carpenters' "Calling Occupants", however, is absolutely barmy. 

Is this thread now derailed?

Forum Timezone: Europe/London

Most Users Ever Online: 597

Currently Online: meanmistermustard, Annadog40, Musketeer Gripweed (kezron9), UnidentifiedFiendishThingy
71 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

meanmistermustard: 9847

mr. Sun king coming together: 6916

parlance: 5185

Ahhh Girl: 5121

mithveaen: 4651

Annadog40: 4278

Zig: 4192

Mr. Kite: 3786

Ron Nasty: 3087

fabfouremily: 2931

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 88

Members: 2627

Moderators: 4

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 3

Forums: 34

Topics: 3160

Posts: 135778

Newest Members: damianosito1984, Bigbeat, edbeatle, the57thbeatle, BLOODFYEND

Moderators: Ahhh Girl: 5121, meanmistermustard: 9847, Zig: 4192, Joe: 3461

Administrators: Joe: 3461, Ellie: 1

Members Birthdays
Today: None
Upcoming: None