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Why is everyone suddenly bad mouthing Paul?
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14 August 2013
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fabfouremily said
^ Yeah, that's right. I don't know the exact details but apparently Paul paid for his cancer treatment.

As horrible as it is to think about it, I'm sure that once Paul passes away, everyone will be full of good things to say about him - which may or may not be a good thing, you decide. I see it as being a bit fake, personally. Look at John, people hardly ever say anything bad about him. Why, when there's so much that could be said? It's because he's not here.

The fact that he puts himself out there as much as he does it also a good point. If he hid away at home, people would largely forget about him. I'm glad he's just doing what he wants to do, regardless of what people say.

You're right, that probably is what will happen and I think that is a pity. It doesn't benefit anyone to paint someone as a saint just because they are dead. I hope that we will be able to celebrate his life and music and what will be his incredible legacy while acknowledging that he was human and as flawed as the rest of us.

It's a shame that happens with John, I think it does him a disservice to not remember him as he was, the good and the bad. After all, the light and shade in John and Paul (and George) are one of the things that make their music something we are still listening to decades later!

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14 August 2013
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^^That's a good point .  The more you put yourself out there, the more you open yourself up to attack.  Thank god people like him have the strength to keep doing what they truly feel is right for them and what they feel makes a positive contribution to life - we'd all be worse off if they just gave it up.

I don't think Lennon really had a chance to be as 'everywhere' as McCartney - that chance was taken away from him - I guess he would otherwise be coming in for a fair whack of criticism because he was extremely frank and open about his life, work, political views etc even though that frankness got him into a lot of trouble at times.

Back to Paul......I keep hearing snippets of stories about his kindness and generosity and about him stepping in to help the other three and their children.  I think it may have been elsewhere on this forum that I heard that Paul paid for George's medical treatment towards the end.  Was that the case?  Does anyone know the details?

 

I don't know if Paul paid for George's treatment, as I would imagine George wouldn't have had much difficulity being able to afford it, but they did reconcile a bit near the end of George's life. George and Paul always had a strained relationship, but at least it ended on good terms. As for Paul helping out the kids if they needed it, that doesn't surprrise me. Paul's always been very good with kids (and not just either his own or the other Beatle's kids). That's why I hated it when Julian Lennon criticized Paul for not being invited to Paul's wedding to Nancy. Only about 30 of their family and friends were there, so it was clear they wanted a very intimate ceremony, and yet Julian bashed him. I just kept thinking "Jude, you're 50 years old. Grow up a little."

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15 August 2013
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LadyBay said
^^That's a good point .  The more you put yourself out there, the more you open yourself up to attack.  Thank god people like him have the strength to keep doing what they truly feel is right for them and what they feel makes a positive contribution to life - we'd all be worse off if they just gave it up.

I don't think Lennon really had a chance to be as 'everywhere' as McCartney - that chance was taken away from him - I guess he would otherwise be coming in for a fair whack of criticism because he was extremely frank and open about his life, work, political views etc even though that frankness got him into a lot of trouble at times.

Back to Paul......I keep hearing snippets of stories about his kindness and generosity and about him stepping in to help the other three and their children.  I think it may have been elsewhere on this forum that I heard that Paul paid for George's medical treatment towards the end.  Was that the case?  Does anyone know the details?

That was me on another thread (or maybe even this one, I don't remember), but yes, he paid for some of George's treatments during the last year or so of his life, and also offered the use of one of his houses in California for George to spend the remainder of his days, and it was in this house that George passed away. But the press will go on and on about how much of an asshole Paul is... :roll:

15 August 2013
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DrBeatle said

LadyBay said
^^That's a good point .  The more you put yourself out there, the more you open yourself up to attack.  Thank god people like him have the strength to keep doing what they truly feel is right for them and what they feel makes a positive contribution to life - we'd all be worse off if they just gave it up.

I don't think Lennon really had a chance to be as 'everywhere' as McCartney - that chance was taken away from him - I guess he would otherwise be coming in for a fair whack of criticism because he was extremely frank and open about his life, work, political views etc even though that frankness got him into a lot of trouble at times.

Back to Paul......I keep hearing snippets of stories about his kindness and generosity and about him stepping in to help the other three and their children.  I think it may have been elsewhere on this forum that I heard that Paul paid for George's medical treatment towards the end.  Was that the case?  Does anyone know the details?

That was me on another thread (or maybe even this one, I don't remember), but yes, he paid for some of George's treatments during the last year or so of his life, and also offered the use of one of his houses in California for George to spend the remainder of his days, and it was in this house that George passed away. But the press will go on and on about how much of an asshole Paul is... :roll:

If he's worse than Ric Flair, then I'll be impressed. I was on a flight sitting a few rows behind Flair years ago on a Charlotte-to-LaGuardia flight, and if you wanted to see what a world-class asshole looks like, you should have been on that flight. Complaining about the temperature on the plane, snapping at flight attendants, coping an attitude when they asked him to shut off his cell phone... by the time the flight ended, EVERYONE was shooting him dirty looks, me included. As I was leaving the plane, I heard one of those poor attendants tell someone else "That's pretty normal for him. He acts like that all the time."

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Funny Paper said
Off topic, I have my own airplane celebrity sighting story.  Back in about 1985, I took a plane from Washington to Washington (from the state on the west coast, to the national capital D.C. near the east coast).  Suddenly, I noticed that in the waiting area Sonny Bono was standing there.  He was big in the 70s, but by the mid 80s had become a has-been.  He was hugging a very pretty brunette who was not Cher.  She was seeing him off.  On the plane during the flight, Sonny would pace up and down the aisles, perhaps hoping somebody would ask for his autograph.   It was kind of sad -- nobody said anything to him, they just stared at him out of the corner of their eyes.

 

Maybe he was looking for someone to remember him as Joe Seluchi from Airplane 2. And yet, he became a congressman not long after your encounter with him, Funny.

Since I started this topic-within-a-topic, I guess I should add 2 others celeb sightings at an airport: in the Atlanta airport years back, at baggage claim, I heard someone shout out "Yo, Keith Sweat!" Sure enough, next to me, it was the '90s R&B singer. Didn't even recognize him, he was dressed all in black and wore shades. Then in Orlando, who else but... Ray Romano? Yep, he was at the same terminal I was. I didn't talk to him (they get bothered by everyday people enough as is, no need for me to add on), but he seemed like a cool guy and signed a couple of autographs for two teenage girls. His wife was pretty hot, I must say.

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