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Why is everyone suddenly bad mouthing Paul?
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11 August 2013
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Hannah said

LadyBay said
I am currently listening to a Steve Martin album Rare Bird Alert  on which Paul sings a track called Best Love -definitely not a screamer but another example of his incredible and varied output.  Whatever your opinion is of his work (I love it) you have to agree Paul is the complete package - not only a superb vocalist but a musician to his fingertips. a-hard-days-night-paul-8

Thanks LadyBay and wetsroosa. I haven't heard either of those but I will definitely check them out. Paul has basically done pretty much every style of music and can sing in any style. I wonder if Paul had been the one to die everyone would be treating him like a saint as they do John? On a side note has anyone heard that comment John made in his last interview where he says something like I don't want to be a dead hero? (I can't remember the exact quote, I will look it up) John was no saint but that was always one of the things I loved about him, he was so honest about his flaws. Sorry, I seem to have gone completely off topic! Paul is gear fab! 

Yes. This isn't a knock on John at all, but there's a reason that John (and Hendrix, and Morrison, and Tupac, and Cobain, etc.) is treated like a saint: because he died too young. Because his life was cut tragically short. Because unlike Paul, we never got to fully see a mature and settled-down John Lennon in full flower with his music. (Double Fantasy and Milk & Honey was just starting to scratch the surface of middle-age John.) Had John lived, and we'll never really know, but had he lived, I'm almost certain he would have continued making records (the last RKO Radio interview alludes to that), he would have toured again (same), he would have gone through the jokes and scrutiny that Paul does now. 

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11 August 2013
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My experience for the most part is the opposite of SatanHimself as most of the disparaging remarks about Paul have come from older people in their 40s-60s, like the guy who told me John was the sole brain of The Beatles, or general eye-rolling I got from some professors when I mentioned I was listening to one of his albums.

On the other hand, people at my hotel are still buzzing about Paul's performance at Outside Lands, using words like "legend" and "a god" and "epic." There's definitely a sense of awe with regards to Paul, but it seems like some people have to see him with their own eyes to understand how phenomenal he is.

The only skeptical young person I've come across was a Brit who told me that Paul's reputation is pretty much crap in the UK, especially in light of his less-than-stellar televised performances last year. He joked, "We liked him when he was with Linda, and she made great vegetarian sausages. But after that it all sort of went south. We still like The Beatles but we've moved on from Paul."

(Hit reply too soon, hate this phone at times.) So I think both age and geography have an impact on the way Paul's perceived.

On a side note, I did manage to convince the young Brit that Paul's in fine voice this year and he asked me to send him some YouTube links. :->

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11 August 2013
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wetsroosa, thanks for the tip -- I'm always on the lookout for good Pauline screaming (I admit to being slack on my Paul fandom with albums after Venus & Mars)

Funny Paper, have you heard THIS?

Rocks so hard! A fantastic demonstration of what Paul can do with his amazing throat and little more than a single (well-amped) guitar chord! (Plus excellent support there from Denny Seiwell.)

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Thanks VonBontee for that video.  All these years, I never knew that song.  I have had the Ram songbook for like 30 years, and one page has a photo with the words "Rode all night" handwritten on it -- I never knew what that referred to until now!

Interesting jam and vibe Paul is indulging there.  I can't say I really enjoy it, but it's cool to hear him getting into that groove.

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Funny Paper said
Thanks VonBontee for that video.  All these years, I never knew that song.  I have had the
Ram songbook for like 30 years, and one page has a photo with the words "Rode all night" handwritten on it -- I never knew what that referred to until now!

Interesting jam and vibe Paul is indulging there.  I can't say I really enjoy it, but it's cool to hear him getting into that groove.

It's a bonus track from the Deluxe version of RAM and coincidentally I am listening to it right now. It's a long 9 minute jam with Paul having fun. And I think Paul is playing all the instruments here.

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12 August 2013
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LadyBay said

Hannah said

parlance said
I haven't seen evidence of revisionist statements but I guess that shows that the 70s John/Paul war still overashadows many/most perceptions.

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Yes that's true but they had made their peace when John died. I read that sometime in the 70's John was walking down the street wearing a badge that said I LOVE PAUL and someone asked him why he was wearing it and he said "because I love Paul"! So sweet. 

The media, especially in Britain has a lot to answer for. They like to build people up then knock them down, they've done it to so many people. Is the media like that in other countries?

Here in Austalia we are famous for our "tall poppy syndrome" - apparently we don't like people getting up themselves! Just ask Kylie Minogue, Rolf Harris, Barry Humphries, Paul Hogan, Nicole Kidman to name but a few people who have been sneered at despite of (or because of)  their success,  but back to topic.....

I think there is a hangover from Paul's Wings career. That was the music of my teen years and it was always seen as a bit daggy to like Wings - you had to hide your Venus And Mars when friends came over even though most of us had a copy! I don't think he's ever really shaken that "uncool' image off in the minds of a lot of my contemporaries. We still listen to Wings, but we still don't talk about it!

Yes, Wings weren't really a very cool band but the music is incredible. The thing with Paul though is he does the music he wants to do, I don't think he tries to be cool. There are a lot of jokes made about Wings, I think people try to compare them with the Beatles which isn't fair because they are a totally different style of music.

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LadyBay said
Here in Austalia we are famous for our "tall poppy syndrome" - apparently we don't like people getting up themselves! Just ask Kylie Minogue, Rolf Harris, Barry Humphries, Paul Hogan, Nicole Kidman to name but a few people who have been sneered at despite of (or because of)  their success,  but back to topic.....

I think there is a hangover from Paul's Wings career. That was the music of my teen years and it was always seen as a bit daggy to like Wings - you had to hide your Venus And Mars when friends came over even though most of us had a copy! I don't think he's ever really shaken that "uncool' image off in the minds of a lot of my contemporaries. We still listen to Wings, but we still don't talk about it!

Wings totally fucking rule.  True story.  Seriously, you should never be ashamed of what music you like, ever.  I PROUDLY wear my Wings shirts all the time.  I blast it in my car, I play it at work.  My husband and I were the only ones singing and dancing to the Wings songs within our group at Paul's concert.  Maybe it's the "hipster" in me, but I really don't care what people think.   

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