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'Waterfalls' by Paul and 'Waterfalls' by TLC
27 January 2013
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LongHairedLady
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I just noticed this a couple months ago :

 

Paul's Lyrics:

"Don't go jumping waterfalls, 
Please, keep to the lake. 
People who jump waterfalls, 
Sometimes can make mistakes."

TLC's Lyrics:

"Don't go chasing waterfalls.
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to.
I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all, 
but I think you're moving too fast."

 

All I could find on this was a little snippet on Wikipedia that says:

In a 2007 interview, while discussing some songs of his he felt were underrated, Paul McCartney commented that he felt TLC had ripped off some aspects of his song "Waterfalls".

 

I've seen worse rip-offs for sure, but it is kinda the same.  a-hard-days-night-paul-11

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

27 January 2013
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The worst rip-off I ever saw like that was a song called "Forever Young" by Rod Stewart. The songwriting credit originally read "R. Stewart/J.Cregan/K.Savigar" but was later changed to include because it was basically a rewrite of Dylan's song, and I still don't get how those three managed to keep any composer credit on it it's so close.

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28 January 2013
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I hated TLC's Waterfalls, one reason being it had similarities to Pauls in the chorus but it was so overplayed.

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28 January 2013
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There's also "What I Got" by Sublime, who took the tune from "Lady Madonna".

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

28 January 2013
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Incidentally, slightly off topic: Did the generic "you" know that in the general realm of popular art (whether books, stories, poems, movies, TV shows, or songs) the title cannot be copyrighted?

I.e., a musician right now could put out a song called "Lady Madonna" or "Let It Be" or whatever, and make money off it perfectly legally -- as long as the song itself is different.

 

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28 January 2013
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 That's interesting, I didn't know that!

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

28 January 2013
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I don't know why musicians don't take advantage of that -- I guess they'd rather be original.  But think of the buzz a new musician could make, coming out with a song called "Let It Be" that had nothing to do with the Beatles original!

 

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28 January 2013
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That's why there's lots of songs with the name "Rain" and "Lies!". Lots more I can think of at the top of my head.

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29 January 2013
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I liked the song before I stumbled upon Paul's, and I can't believe that didn't lead to a lawsuit.

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29 January 2013
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parlance said
I liked the song before I stumbled upon Paul's, and I can't believe that didn't lead to a lawsuit.

 

I did like it when I was a kid in the 90's.  I didn't hear Paul's song until last year, and right away I went "wait a minute, those lyrics sound mighty familiar.."

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

29 January 2013
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Man, that is some awful lyric quoted there – even worse than Paul's original! Probably should be glad I've never heard the song. (I DO own a TLC album, believe it or not! It's got a couple of tracks on it I like. Not "Waterfalls", though.) I'm assuming that the TLC song's melody sounds nothing like Paul's, otherwise they probably would've gotten sued. I don't think that the brief bit of lyric similarity alone is actionable, any more than "Run For Your Life", for example.

Funny Paper, evidently you're not familiar with this fine 1984 album by The Replacements:

[Image Can Not Be Found]http://www.albumoftheyear.org/…..-it-be.jpg

(No song called "Let It Be" is included on this album – although their previous album did include a song called "Mr. Whirly" that managed to steal from both "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Oh! Darling". Although I suppose you could call it more of an homage than a steal. Either way, I doubt Paul McCartney has ever heard it.)

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29 January 2013
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Thanks, I only dimly remember The Replacements; didn't know they'd delved into such homages.

I like that Lennon quote you have at the bottom of your posts.  It's almost like evidence of a crime.  If Lennon had lived to our time, people could use that against him:  "We have actual evidence that you liked disco once…"a-hard-days-night-john-3

 

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7 May 2013
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To be fair to Paul's lyrics in Waterfalls, he's stated multiple times that those were the words he'd used to block the song out while he was writing the music, but he just ended up keeping them in because he liked them. And I agree with him…it's one of my favorite songs by him. Anyone else noticed, too, how GD *young* he looks in the video? It's crazy!

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8 May 2013
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I like both versions, but I think I'm going to stone to death because I like the TLC one a bit better. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

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sky090909 said
I like both versions, but I think I'm going to stone to death because I like the TLC one a bit better. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

*throws stones*

 

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8 May 2013
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sky090909 said

I like both versions, but I think I'm going to stone to death because I like the TLC one a bit better. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

*picks up stone, realizes she agrees, saunters away whistling*

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DrBeatle said

sky090909 said
I like both versions, but I think I'm going to stone to death because I like the TLC one a bit better. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

*throws stones*

 

:-D

*Ouch* lol :D

parlance said

sky090909 said

I like both versions, but I think I'm going to stone to death because I like the TLC one a bit better. a-hard-days-night-paul-4

*picks up stone, realizes she agrees, saunters away whistling*

haha a-hard-days-night-ringo-8a-hard-days-night-george-2

 

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