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We All Stand Together - The Paul McCartney Appreciation Thread
11 April 2016
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LoveUlikeGuitars said
Calico Skies is just as good as anything. I like how he combines love and war..it’s a beautiful song. One of his best, IMHO.

I agree.

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11 April 2016
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LoveUlikeGuitars said
Calico Skies is just as good as anything. I like how he combines love and war..it’s a beautiful song. One of his best, IMHO.

One of my favorite Macca songs – especially the first lines.

It was written that I would love you,
From the moment I opened my eyes

The last verse though (the weapons of war verse) is where I feel the lyrics took a distinct left turn from the message he was delivering. I always thought it was an odd choice of thoughts on which to close the song.

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I think it’s sort of the old formula, where the man seems to despise the war because it takes him away from his loved one, and he might never see her again. 

I sort of get it even though it’s an abrupt turn like you say.. He says “Weapons of war we despise”, and then goes to “I’ll hold you as long as you like..”, I mean, isn’t it sort of like, he can hold her as long as she likes or as long as he likes if there isn’t a war that’s calling him away? Sort of an apprehension on the singer’s part.

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the quality of lyric decrease as the song goes on. All very good, but with a refrain like that there is nothing to complain about. absolutely unreal how good that song is.

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And he says ‘all of us crazy soldiers/ Who were born under calico skies’– emphasising that we’re all humans, no matter which side you’re on. 

Oh my, it gets deeper as you look into it a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I’ve always looked at it this way. The draft did loom large in Paul’s life. So I think that the song was written from that perspective as well. Like, this guy was in love with this girl, and it’s absolutely blissful, but the draft keeps playing on his mind always. That’s how I see the abrupt turn in the lyrics…he’s with his girl, but the draft is always playing on his mind, and he hopes that he’s never called to handle the weapons so that he can hold the girl as long as she likes. 

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Silly Girl said
And he says ‘all of us crazy soldiers/ Who were born under calico skies’– emphasising that we’re all humans, no matter which side you’re on. 

Oh my, it gets deeper as you look into it a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I’ve always looked at it this way. The draft did loom large in Paul’s life. So I think that the song was written from that perspective as well. Like, this guy was in love with this girl, and it’s absolutely blissful, but the draft keeps playing on his mind always. That’s how I see the abrupt turn in the lyrics…he’s with his girl, but the draft is always playing on his mind, and he hopes that he’s never called to handle the weapons so that he can hold the girl as long as she likes. 

So most of us know he wrote this song during a power outage caused by a hurricane and calico skies refers to that dark greenish gray color of the sky during powerful storms. I’m with ya so far, Paulie.  

He then describes the song as “a gentle love song that becomes a 1960s protest song”. Huh? Ya done lost me. a-hard-days-night-ringo-7

That is akin to writing “my darling…your eyes remind me of no more nukes. Your eyes are like save the whales”.

Trying to justify it gives me a headache, but I do like the way you guys think. You both could be quite right.

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Just enjoy his fine fingerplucking and sweet crooning vocal and you won’t need to worry about that anymore. a-hard-days-night-paul-8

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Watch the live version with his full band. I believe its at Shae stadium. Rusty Anderson sings a beautiful harmony into the first chorus. There is a little bit of vocal correction that throws me off, but its a great performance nonetheless.

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At Citi Field, not Shae. More recent than that.

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T.he accordion is a nice touch

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Silly Girl said
And he says ‘all of us crazy soldiers/ Who were born under calico skies’– emphasising that we’re all humans, no matter which side you’re on. 

Oh my, it gets deeper as you look into it a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I’ve always looked at it this way. The draft did loom large in Paul’s life. So I think that the song was written from that perspective as well. Like, this guy was in love with this girl, and it’s absolutely blissful, but the draft keeps playing on his mind always. That’s how I see the abrupt turn in the lyrics…he’s with his girl, but the draft is always playing on his mind, and he hopes that he’s never called to handle the weapons so that he can hold the girl as long as she likes. 

So most of us know he wrote this song during a power outage caused by a hurricane and calico skies refers to that dark greenish gray color of the sky during powerful storms. I’m with ya so far, Paulie.  

That’s not what I’ve heard Paul say the song refers to. He says/said Calico skies refers to the blitzkrieg, which hit Liverpool pretty hard not too long before Paul was born. Mary was already very much pregnant with Paul by the time the bombings ended. He’s gone on record saying he was born during an air raid, but that isn’t true, either. But it was still a very recent thing then. The whole calico skies thing refers to that, because both he and Linda were born during the war, even though she of course wouldn’t have grown up in a city that bore the visible scars of WWII.

So, with that in mind, the whole soldiers thing also makes sense. It’s not about the draft, because that ended before Paul turned seventeen, so he never had to serve. He could have joined voluntarily, but none of the Beatles would have been forced into army service.

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No, that’s not what I meant. What I said was that the draft would have played very heavily on his mind when he was young because the draft ended quite later on, and there was a real chance of them having to serve in the army. In fact, they were all consciously making plans to escape when the time came.

So, I can understand the abrupt turn in the song referring to the war and the man dreading the call from that perspective. It might not have been what Paul had in his mind though, like you said, and I was unaware of it till now.

 

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So most of us know he wrote this song during a power outage caused by a hurricane and calico skies refers to that dark greenish gray color of the sky during powerful storms. I’m with ya so far, Paulie.  

That’s not what I’ve heard Paul say the song refers to. He says/said Calico skies refers to the blitzkrieg, which hit Liverpool pretty hard not too long before Paul was born. Mary was already very much pregnant with Paul by the time the bombings ended. He’s gone on record saying he was born during an air raid, but that isn’t true, either. But it was still a very recent thing then. The whole calico skies thing refers to that, because both he and Linda were born during the war, even though she of course wouldn’t have grown up in a city that bore the visible scars of WWII.

So, with that in mind, the whole soldiers thing also makes sense. It’s not about the draft, because that ended before Paul turned seventeen, so he never had to serve. He could have joined voluntarily, but none of the Beatles would have been forced into army service.

@Mademoiselle Kitty >^..^< – that’s what he said (written words) on the CD booklet. Also, this from Wiki…

Calico Skies” is the sixth song on Paul McCartney’s 1997 album, Flaming Pie.

McCartney had been staying in Long Island when the category-three storm Hurricane Bob that made landfall had hit in August 1991. This made McCartney sit with an acoustic guitar and write what he describes as “a gentle love song that becomes a 1960s protest song“. The song was co-produced by George Martin and McCartney, being started, finished, and mixed within a single session on 3 September 1992 in Sussex, England. It is the earliest recording on Flaming Pie .

McCartney says of the song: “Bob, the hurricane, knocked out all the power; it was all candle-light, cooking on a woodfire. Very primitive, but we like that enforced simplicity. I couldn’t play records, so I made up little acoustic pieces. This was one of them – it’s a primitive little powercut memory.”

If he told someone else it was about the blitz during the war, he is telling conflicting stories. What source do you cite? 

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Well, the source is Paul, and it was an interview somewhere, I think, but of course I can’t remember which one…. a-hard-days-night-paul-10

Would it be surprising though? When does Paul NOT tell conflicting stories? a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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For all we know, they could both be true. Perhaps the first part was inspired by the hurricane and the last verse by the Blitz. It wouldn’t be the first time a Beatle smashed two song ideas together to form one song.

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I’ve been posting so many wonderful pictures in the PID thread, I thought I’d add some here, so those who are avoiding the PID thingy can still practice their Paulversion.

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Alright, you may now mop up the drool and go about your day. a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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^ The stuff fantasies are made of. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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^ The stuff fantasies are made of. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8I’d just like to say that that

is a really cool guitar.

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It is! It’s got people/children of all colours painted all over it; really fab. I wonder if he’s got strap locks on it, though. Doesn’t look like it in this picture, but a Les Paul without strap locks is a disaster waiting to happen… 

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^Besides the fact it looks like someone melted skittles and placed em all over the thing. 

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