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Should McCartney stop?
4 December 2012
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BluemeanAl
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Still more exceptions:  Van Morrison, Paul Simon.  I just heard Roger Daltrey do Quadrophenia -- he can't scream with the same authority as 40 yrs ago, but he's singing just fine.  Ditto Robert Plant. 

Neil Young seems to sound almost exactly as he did 40 years ago. 

Bruce Springsteen never really had a good voice, but it's just deepened with the years.  Still brings it in concert.  Dylan, not quite a ditto.  He mangages what he has, but that ain't much.

I've seen/heard all these guys in concert over the past 4-5 years (multiple shows for Springsteen and Plant), and except for the very hit-or-miss Bob Dylan, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to see any of them again, and would expect to think that I got my money's worth when I left the building.

Ditto Paul McCartney.

Of course, I'm suffering from fairly significant hearing loss at this point.  Maybe my personal bar has been lowered.  I guess that's good news for me (easily pleased)?

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4 December 2012
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paulsbass said

robert said

In my opinion they have earned the right to exit the stage with grace and they ought to. And I love Paul – don't get me wrong. I know this post will drop me off  a lot of Christmas lists. I just don't want him to conclude his career with reviewers saying "why does he keep on going when his voice is so clearly gone" If not this year, it will be next year.

Agreed to everything you said. Saw him in 2002 – EXCELLENT performance! Saw some youtube clips from 2006 on – voice gone.

And I seriously don't understand why he still tries to sing "Maybe I'm amazed" which was impossible for him to do as soon as the 70s were over.

 

But I guess he just NEEDS the thrill of rocking a stadium with tens of thousands of people, and he can't just quit it, seeing the popular demand is still huge. People like him, being in the spotlight all their live can't just quit.

The only thing to REALLY stop him would be if he would do some REALLY serious damage to his vocal chords without being able to sing at all.

Listening to him it can't take much more time until that happens…

 

If he could stick to smaller venues with a more quiet repertoire it would suit him much better.

I wish him all the best and that he manages to find a way that satisfies his own needs of performing (being a performer myself I know about the kick you get – it's like a drug) without ruining his health and credibility.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

My point exactly. The question is why does he need the thrill of people screaming at him and adoring him. I will never understand adulation. He lives for attention which is one of the main reasons I love Harrison. He was never into the attention part of his fame but stayed humble throughout his career.

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5 December 2012
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SatanHimself said
I haven't bought a studio Macca album since 'Flaming Pie'.  I believe in the Law Of Diminishing Returns and I'd rather skip some more of his recent works, even though I know that much of it has been met with well-deserved praise.  I'd be very curious to hear a 'best-of' which covered 'Flowers In The Dirt' forward though.

 

I like the comfort in my life knowing that Paul still makes albums, and I'd rather see him continuing like Frank Sinatra or Tony Bennett and just make the music he wants to make until he dies (I know that Bennett isn't dead, but at 86 he's a good example of someone who just keeps on doing what he pleases for the joy of it).

Then you're missing out if you like McCartney records and good songwriting. He has done some of his best solo work since Flaming Pie. "Law of Diminishing Returns" is bullshit for creators. If they have inspiration and talent, it doesn't matter how long they keep going if they continue to make a good product. Chaos and Creation in the Backyard and Electric Arguments are two of Paul's best records. I think you're avoiding good music.

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5 December 2012
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Zig said
He should not stop until I've had a chance to see him in concert. Then he can do whatever he wants. No selfishness there, eh?

paulsbass said

Too bad you missed "Chaos and creation", his best solo album EVER.

I bought it and was very, very disappointed. I almost fell asleep. Please don't jump down my throat, it's just my opinion. Our tastes must vary.

For my money (again, just Zig's opinion here) the favorite solo effort is Flaming Pie. As far as anything he did with (or as) Wings, the favorite is Band On The Run.

I thought this on my first few listens, but then it turned out to be one of my favorites. I don't know, but it grew on me and made a lasting impression.

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5 December 2012
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Since I'm hearing some love for Paul's last decade here, can anybody throw out a suggested list of some of the best songs on each album starting with, say, 'Run Devil Run'?

 

They don't have to be singles or anything.  Just cuts that you feel are among the better ones on each album. 

E is for 'Ergent'.
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SatanHimself said
Since I'm hearing some love for Paul's last decade here, can anybody throw out a suggested list of some of the best songs on each album starting with, say, 'Run Devil Run'?

 

They don't have to be singles or anything.  Just cuts that you feel are among the better ones on each album. 

CACAITBY works best as an album.

5 December 2012
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SatanHimself said
Since I'm hearing some love for Paul's last decade here, can anybody throw out a suggested list of some of the best songs on each album starting with, say, 'Run Devil Run'?

They don't have to be singles or anything.  Just cuts that you feel are among the better ones on each album. 

Havent listened to RDR in a long while but No Other Baby has a great vocal, guitar solo and feel to the song and Brown Eyed Handsome Man really swings. I still think Buddy Holly did the ultimate version of that track but Pauls is really good. Its no wonder these were the tracks pulled for the single.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
5 December 2012
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The best songs of the new albums imo

Best songs on Run Devil RUn: Haven't listened to it yet, as it's rock'n'roll which I don't really like (except john's album with this name, which is great)

Bst songs on driving rain: freedom, your loving flame, lonely road, from a lover to a friend and driving rain live version (I don't like the studio one very much)

Best songs on chaos and creation: Fine Line, jenny wren and friends to go

Best songs on memory almost full: Dance Tonight and Only Mama Knows

Bst songs on electric arguments: Have never listened to the whole album but I love highway and sing the changes from good evening new york city with sing the changes being one of my favourite ever paul songs

Best songs on kisses on the bottom: I'm Gonna sit right down and write myself a letter and baby's request if that counts

 

I really like all of the albums (with driving rain possibly being my favourite) except the two I don't know fully

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5 December 2012
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GeorgeTSimpson said

Best songs on chaos and creation: Fine Line, jenny wren and friends to go

I would add Too Much Rain and Promise To You Girl.

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5 December 2012
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Thanks for the recommendations.  It'll give me some things to check out during my long evening shift in the airport fire hall tonight.

E is for 'Ergent'.
5 December 2012
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Ben Ramon said

GeorgeTSimpson said

Best songs on chaos and creation: Fine Line, jenny wren and friends to go

I would add Too Much Rain and Promise To You Girl.

I agree, awesome songs

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5 December 2012
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wth, my whole post got just deleted, just the quote remained…

5 December 2012
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Ok, so very quickly another try:

RDR:

Best songs She said yeah, Run devil run, Movie Magg (classic Carl Perkins), Brown eyed handsome man (best track on the album), What it is (another great original song),

No other baby is kind of interesting but among the weakest tracks on the album

 

Driving rain:

Best songs: She given up talking, I do, Tiny bubble (perfect pop), Your way (nice acoustic feeling), Heather (as soon as you get over the fact its for Heather its a nice half-instrumental), Your loving flame, Driving rain (as long as you get over the dreadfully redundant intro lyrics…)

Sorry GTS, but Freedom, From a lover to a friend and Lonely road are among the weakest tracks, imo.

 

Chaos and creation:

Fantastic from start to finish, seriously.

Only "A certain softness" may be a little TOO sweet and soft.

Favourites are "How kind of you", "At the mercy", "Too much rain", "Anyway". "Jenny Wren" is also fantastic.

Must have album.

 

Memory almost full

Also excellent, but not as good as Chaos, imo.

I like all the songs except for Only Mama knows (too distorted for my taste) and Gratitude, which I find totally unlistenable.

Favourites "Ever present past", "Vintage clothes", "That was me", "Feet in the clouds", "House of wax" (guitar solo by Paul!). the last songs work as a medley, so it makes sense to listen to them as a medley.

I thought "Dance tonight" was one of his most boring and generic songs ever, but the nice arrangement makes it more attractive.

 

Kisses on the bottom

Obviously "My valentine" is the stand out track (fantastic video/s) along with the other original "Only our hearts". the rest is ok (favourite "Ac-Cen-Tchu-Ate the positive")

Interestingly "Babys request" had a better jazzy feeling in the original than this version!

 

Forgot "Electric arguments"

No doubt another must have album.

The first 7 songs are maybe the strongest 7 songs he ever put after another.

The second part are mostly ambient style songs, so you have to like that a bit, then it's great.

Favourites: Light of your lighthouse (hands down, along with Monkberry Moon Delight his most entertaining song EVER!), Sing the changes (although the live version is better), Travelling light, Two magpies, sun is shining, Nothing too much just out of sight (heavy, heavy!)

5 December 2012
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Inner Light said

paulsbass said

robert said

In my opinion they have earned the right to exit the stage with grace and they ought to. And I love Paul – don't get me wrong. I know this post will drop me off  a lot of Christmas lists. I just don't want him to conclude his career with reviewers saying "why does he keep on going when his voice is so clearly gone" If not this year, it will be next year.

Agreed to everything you said. Saw him in 2002 – EXCELLENT performance! Saw some youtube clips from 2006 on – voice gone.

And I seriously don't understand why he still tries to sing "Maybe I'm amazed" which was impossible for him to do as soon as the 70s were over.

 

But I guess he just NEEDS the thrill of rocking a stadium with tens of thousands of people, and he can't just quit it, seeing the popular demand is still huge. People like him, being in the spotlight all their live can't just quit.

The only thing to REALLY stop him would be if he would do some REALLY serious damage to his vocal chords without being able to sing at all.

Listening to him it can't take much more time until that happens…

 

If he could stick to smaller venues with a more quiet repertoire it would suit him much better.

I wish him all the best and that he manages to find a way that satisfies his own needs of performing (being a performer myself I know about the kick you get – it's like a drug) without ruining his health and credibility.a-hard-days-night-paul-7

My point exactly. The question is why does he need the thrill of people screaming at him and adoring him. I will never understand adulation. He lives for attention which is one of the main reasons I love Harrison. He was never into the attention part of his fame but stayed humble throughout his career.

I agree with what all of you have said 100%. Paul needs attention on and off the stage. Here's my reasoning:

1 Paul was always the most enthusiastic Beatle when reporters wanted an interview or photo

2 His relationship with Jane Asher didn't work because she put her career before Paul (good for her!)

3 Wives #2 and #3

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thewordislove94 said

I agree with what all of you have said 100%. Paul needs attention on and off the stage. Here's my reasoning:
1 Paul was always the most enthusiastic Beatle when reporters wanted an interview or photo

2 His relationship with Jane Asher didn't work because she put her career before Paul (good for her!)

3 Wives #2 and #3

 

1) Can you please try and quote in a more readable way.

2) Can all of you please stop using my quote as a vehicle for calling Paul an attention seeking freak??

He loves being celebrated for his music – wow, shocking!

After a whole life in the spotlight he's used to it – wow, shocking!

He's a creative person and loves to share the results with other people – wow, shocking!

Sure, there are people even more humble than him who take less interest in publicity.

I'm still glad we have this huge superstar who always stayed true to his artistic beliefs, who always stayed true to his message of love, who always stayed true to his engagement for animal and human rights, who always stayed true to his family, who always stayed true to his fans.

Are you performers yourself? Then you KNOW about the kick you need from playing live and how you miss it.

Are you not? Then why do you judge Paul?

3) To call your reasoning "thin" would be THE understatement of the still young century.

5 December 2012
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Btw, Im wondering what you think about Pauls vocals on this, is it good/bad:

 

Imo, his singing is fantastic here.

5 December 2012
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paulsbass said

thewordislove94 said

I agree with what all of you have said 100%. Paul needs attention on and off the stage. Here's my reasoning:
1 Paul was always the most enthusiastic Beatle when reporters wanted an interview or photo

2 His relationship with Jane Asher didn't work because she put her career before Paul (good for her!)

3 Wives #2 and #3

 

1) Can you please try and quote in a more readable way.

2) Can all of you please stop using my quote as a vehicle for calling Paul an attention seeking freak??

He loves being celebrated for his music – wow, shocking!

After a whole life in the spotlight he's used to it – wow, shocking!

He's a creative person and loves to share the results with other people – wow, shocking!

Sure, there are people even more humble than him who take less interest in publicity.

I'm still glad we have this huge superstar who always stayed true to his artistic beliefs, who always stayed true to his message of love, who always stayed true to his engagement for animal and human rights, who always stayed true to his family, who always stayed true to his fans.

Are you performers yourself? Then you KNOW about the kick you need from playing live and how you miss it.

Are you not? Then why do you judge Paul?

3) To call your reasoning "thin" would be THE understatement of the still young century.

All right. I will put a stop to this. We all know that McCartney can't sing as well as he did when he was young. As far as him quitting making music, that is entirely up to him. I am also a musician that performs live practically every week and I hope I will be able to sing as well as him when I am 70. I am turning 60 next week.

As far as him seeking attention, we our all different. I personal don't like artists and entertainers that get on ego trips but to each his own. We need to look at ourselves and be true to who we are. The fact is that Paul is and has always been an incredible singer/songwriter/musician and entertainer which is what makes him who he is. Keep in mind that without his personality in the Beatles, they would never have been as success as they were. Each of them brought their own creative talents to the group and that is why they were so special.

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paulsbass said

thewordislove94 said

I agree with what all of you have said 100%. Paul needs attention on and off the stage. Here's my reasoning:
1 Paul was always the most enthusiastic Beatle when reporters wanted an interview or photo

2 His relationship with Jane Asher didn't work because she put her career before Paul (good for her!)

3 Wives #2 and #3

 

1) Can you please try and quote in a more readable way.

2) Can all of you please stop using my quote as a vehicle for calling Paul an attention seeking freak??

He loves being celebrated for his music – wow, shocking!

After a whole life in the spotlight he's used to it – wow, shocking!

He's a creative person and loves to share the results with other people – wow, shocking!

Sure, there are people even more humble than him who take less interest in publicity.

I'm still glad we have this huge superstar who always stayed true to his artistic beliefs, who always stayed true to his message of love, who always stayed true to his engagement for animal and human rights, who always stayed true to his family, who always stayed true to his fans.

Are you performers yourself? Then you KNOW about the kick you need from playing live and how you miss it.

Are you not? Then why do you judge Paul?

3) To call your reasoning "thin" would be THE understatement of the still young century.

I don't think thewordislove94 was even criticising Paul. It's quite obvious that Macca is the kind of guy who loves attention and publicity and I don't think that needs to be read as a negative facet of his personality; it's served him extremely well over the course of his career. Why jump down someone's throat just because they stated the facts?

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5 December 2012
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SatanHimself said
Thanks for the recommendations.  It'll give me some things to check out during my long evening shift in the airport fire hall tonight.

Also listen to the full Fireman album and the song Mr. Bellamy from Memory Almost Full.

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tkj said
 

What do you think? Should he stop? 

 

No…Why?

He's a musician and composer…That's who he is, and he should continue as long as he is able.

'Some people say' or 'critics'?

Critics are a low form of life who suck the blood of artists, as they cannot create anything life giving on their own.

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