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Ranking Paul's Studio Albums
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24 March 2014
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I was pretty big on 12" Singles in the 80's, remember those?  I actually used to own the 12" Single of 'No More Lonely Nights', which featured two versions of the song ('Extended' & 'Mellow' versions) in addition to 'Silly Love Songs', that's one piece of vinyl that I don't regret parting with.  I'll "defend" 'Give My Regards To Broad Street' on one score, and that's that I believe that the film makes the album seem worse than it really is.  Without the film, would it have been trashed to the extent that it was?  Wouldn't it have been just another lacklustre McCartney collection where people would've looked to the bright spots, such as 'No More Lonely Nights', and justified it because of it?  Is it really worse than 'Press To Play'?...:-)

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Von Bontee said
I'm probably misremembering, but it seemed to me at the time that many reviewers disregarded the film entirely and chose instead to criticize Paul for those re-recordings on the soundtrack.

 

I just feel as though the film shone a brighter spotlight on its shortcomings, not much different than 'Let It Be' really.  One of the highly publicized reviews of the 'Let It Be' album called it a "Cheapstake Epitaph" or a "sad ending to a musical fusion which wiped clean and drew again the face of popular music" which always sounded to me as if the reviewer was remarking on the "sad" state of the film instead of the album.  Beatles' classics such as 'Across The Universe', 'Let It Be', 'The Long And Winding Road' & 'Get Back' a "sad ending"?!  'Abbey Road' was a great "ending" while 'Let It Be' was a great "encore", but the film "cheapened" it or shone a brighter light on its rough spots I felt.  While 'Give My Regards To Broad Street' severely lacks the gems found on the 'Let It Be' record, the spectacle of the film brings out the downfalls of the music more, in my opinion.  There's atleast 4 or 5 other McCartney albums that are just as bad but don't get ridiculed like this one always does...:-)

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Paulbass--

Hey, I'm a huge Paul fan.  

Proof:  I love Silly Love Songs.  More proof:  I think purely from the standpoint of its melody, that "No More Lonely Nights" is as lovely as any song by the Beatles either during the Beatles or during their post-Beatles career.  Gorgeous.  Even more proof: When I was a kid back in the 70s, I knew Wings before I knew the Beatles--I came to the Beatles via Wings.  I'm a huge Paul fan.  (Okay...I'm a huge fan of all things Beatles, frankly.) 

I'd say a couple of things to you.  I mostly read the forums.  I've contributed only a few times.  But I find these forums very entertaining and very informative.  And it'd be a shame, frankly, if you were to drop out.  Every position needs its advocates.  And the pro-Paul position needs its advocate, too.  You contribute a lot.  I see that.  But Joe is right.  The pro-Paul position needs advocates but not because "Paul" needs advocates.  Good grief, the man is the single most successful musician in history.  He's had a huge post-Beatles career.  He ranks among the most successful musicians even without the Beatles.  And if you look at the top 50 Beatles iTunes songs and the 50 most listened to Last.fm Beatles songs, Paul's songs easily outpace John's in contemporary popularity--and what is the best sign of greatness but sustained appreciation over time?  People adore Paul. Musicians adore Paul.  His career is huge.  Not just huge.  The biggest.  

But people are entitled to disagree.  They're entitled to think that he sucks.  They're even entitled to think that Sir Paul is evil incarnate.  That's just how it works in open forums.  That's how it SHOULD work.  And the strong advocates of opposing positions makes these forums worth reading (even if I don't contribute all that often). 

So my advice:  Come back.  Even the silent readers such as myself appreciate your opinion.  But I'd also encourage you to accept the reality that informed and well-meaning people disagree.  It's nothing personal.   

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Michael B said
Paulbass--

Hey, I'm a huge Paul fan.  

Proof:  I love Silly Love Songs.  More proof:  I think purely from the standpoint of its melody, that "No More Lonely Nights" is as lovely as any song by the Beatles either during the Beatles or during their post-Beatles career.  Gorgeous.  Even more proof: When I was a kid back in the 70s, I knew Wings before I knew the Beatles--I came to the Beatles via Wings.  I'm a huge Paul fan.  (Okay...I'm a huge fan of all things Beatles, frankly.) 

I'd say a couple of things to you.  I mostly read the forums.  I've contributed only a few times.  But I find these forums very entertaining and very informative.  And it'd be a shame, frankly, if you were to drop out.  Every position needs its advocates.  And the pro-Paul position needs its advocate, too.  You contribute a lot.  I see that.  But Joe is right.  The pro-Paul position needs advocates but not because "Paul" needs advocates.  Good grief, the man is the single most successful musician in history.  He's had a huge post-Beatles career.  He ranks among the most successful musicians even without the Beatles.  And if you look at the top 50 Beatles iTunes songs and the 50 most listened to Last.fm Beatles songs, Paul's songs easily outpace John's in contemporary popularity--and what is the best sign of greatness but sustained appreciation over time?  People adore Paul. Musicians adore Paul.  His career is huge.  Not just huge.  The biggest.  

But people are entitled to disagree.  They're entitled to think that he sucks.  They're even entitled to think that Sir Paul is evil incarnate.  That's just how it works in open forums.  That's how it SHOULD work.  And the strong advocates of opposing positions makes these forums worth reading (even if I don't contribute all that often). 

So my advice:  Come back.  Even the silent readers such as myself appreciate your opinion.  But I'd also encourage you to accept the reality that informed and well-meaning people disagree.  It's nothing personal.   

Hey @Michael B  I completely agree. But everyone is singling out @paulsbass . People were ranking Pauls albums and there was a comment saying all his stuff sucks and isn't even worth rankings. When the thread is asking to rank the albums, most people were ranking there favorites and happen to be fans usually if there taking time to rank. Also multiple people left comments saying they thought the negative comment was a strong choice of words well because this is pro Paul thread for the most part. They are entitled to opinion just strong wording was provocative Also paulbass wasn't defending Paul he was defending his opinion. Anyway yeah it got out of hand, but thread kind of got derailed by the comment which didn't even meet thread criteria by not ranking. I try to comment on the topics I enjoy, not provoke disagreements. If not I just don't comment. All I am saying is that we should all be courteous to each other. But there were some subtle and snide remarks by other user.  I am only trying to mediate the situation and would hate for a member of the community to leave because they felt bullied by more than one user or ganged up on. So lets in Pauls words Let it Be and get thread back on track. Forgive and forget were all fans with different opinions and likes. Maybe we should at a debate topic or section for debates? 

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