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Paul's "Out There" tour (contains spoilers)
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No love lost for anyone on my part through this conversation. Peace and love to all, and to all a good night.

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"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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LongHairedLady said

Looks like we were throwing pixels around at one another. Glad it all worked out in the end. We didn't even bring out the pitchforks and bonfires.

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Could people please calm down.

There is a legitimate argument that the video is not in the best of taste.

There is a legitimate argument that it's a sense of humour.

In most circumstances I would delete an empty post, however as it was not originally an empty post, but a post that was responded to, I am minded to leave it there.

If it was offensive, I would have removed it. If it was opinion, which others could legitimately disagree with, I would have left it in place.

Make your arguments, Beatle people. Be prepared to offend others unintentionally. Never set out to offend. Never leave a blank post because you question the content because of the response.

Live with your mistakes, if you consider them such.

And I speak as one who has made them, and has tools to cover them up.

I big boo-booed in a thread a few weeks ago, and after I had realised I had, and had access to mod tools where I could have have gone in and cleaned the thread to leave no trace. Instead I left it alone for Joe to come in and give me a public spanking.

If you are offensive we will remove it, and offer PM advice. If you are posing a legitimate challenge, no bad - whatever the response.

Please do not edit comments to blank spaces.

And if you do, expect them to be left in place. Other mods, Joe, please do not delete post 332.

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31 October 2013
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LongHairedLady said
In my OPINION, if people did take any offence, they are being overly sensitive.  That's my opinion.  I am entitled to that, and I not?  It's an open forum, is it not?

Here's the thing - you're entitled to an opinion that Paul did nothing wrong. You're not entitled to tell people they're being overly sensitive. Or if you do, accept that people won't respond well.

I don't do things like make fun of peoples weight or how they look.  I don't do silly things like call people "retarded"… 

That's not even up for debate. My point was that the times you felt like you were getting piled on - like the John/maybe not John photo in the unseen photos thread - people were respectful in return and let you know it was nothing personal. It would have only been made worse if someone had said, "you're being overly sensitive, LHL." When has that ever been helpful? So why turn around and do that to someone?

but seriously, people are offended by everything these days.  It gets on my nerves. 

Like that. If you can't understand where someone's coming from, listen to them. How can you decide already people have nothing to get offended by if you haven't even read the reasons?

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The problem i have is that its getting to the point where its getting difficult for anyone to say anything without some offense being taken or some cultural connotation being unpicked, or stitched together, from the fabric. And normally those who we think are being offended, and therefore need to take a stand for, fail to see what the heck the furore is all about and are getting on, or trying to get on with their lives.

Same point as above. It's not that people can't say anything, it's that people are empowered to say when something bothers or disturbs them. That's a good thing. That's a great thing. No one's taking away your right to your words, they're making you accountable for them. We're adults, we should be able to handle that.

LHL, if you're genuinely confused why someone would take offense to Paul's words, I'll take another look at the video and explain my perspective. If you have already decided I don't have a point to make, I won't bother. I won't go so far to say the video upset me, per se, but it wasn't a good look on Paul and I'd rather not relive it if that'll be a waste of time.

Either way, peace to you all.

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Check out my fan video for Paul's song "Appreciate" at YouTube and Vimeo.

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mja6758 said
Could people please calm down.

There is a legitimate argument that the video is not in the best of taste.

There is a legitimate argument that it's a sense of humour.

In most circumstances I would delete an empty post, however as it was not originally an empty post, but a post that was responded to, I am minded to leave it there.

If it was offensive, I would have removed it. If it was opinion, which others could legitimately disagree with, I would have left it in place.

Make your arguments, Beatle people. Be prepared to offend others unintentionally. Never set out to offend. Never leave a blank post because you question the content because of the response.

Live with your mistakes, if you consider them such.

And I speak as one who has made them, and has tools to cover them up.

I big boo-booed in a thread a few weeks ago, and after I had realised I had, and had access to mod tools where I could have have gone in and cleaned the thread to leave no trace. Instead I left it alone for Joe to come in and give me a public spanking.

If you are offensive we will remove it, and offer PM advice. If you are posing a legitimate challenge, no bad - whatever the response.

Please do not edit comments to blank spaces.

And if you do, expect them to be left in place. Other mods, Joe, please do not delete post 332.

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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parlance said

LongHairedLady said
In my OPINION, if people did take any offence, they are being overly sensitive.  That's my opinion.  I am entitled to that, and I not?  It's an open forum, is it not?

Here's the thing - you're entitled to an opinion that Paul did nothing wrong. You're not entitled to tell people they're being overly sensitive. Or if you do, accept that people won't respond well.

I don't do things like make fun of peoples weight or how they look.  I don't do silly things like call people "retarded"… 

That's not even up for debate. My point was that the times you felt like you were getting piled on - like the John/maybe not John photo in the unseen photos thread - people were respectful in return and let you know it was nothing personal. It would have only been made worse if someone had said, "you're being overly sensitive, LHL." When has that ever been helpful? So why turn around and do that to someone?

but seriously, people are offended by everything these days.  It gets on my nerves. 

Like that. If you can't understand where someone's coming from, listen to them. How can you decide already people have nothing to get offended by if you haven't even read the reasons?

meanmistermustard said
The problem i have is that its getting to the point where its getting difficult for anyone to say anything without some offense being taken or some cultural connotation being unpicked, or stitched together, from the fabric. And normally those who we think are being offended, and therefore need to take a stand for, fail to see what the heck the furore is all about and are getting on, or trying to get on with their lives.

Same point as above. It's not that people can't say anything, it's that people are empowered to say when something bothers or disturbs them. That's a good thing. That's a great thing. No one's taking away your right to your words, they're making you accountable for them. We're adults, we should be able to handle that.

LHL, if you're genuinely confused why someone would take offense to Paul's words, I'll take another look at the video and explain my perspective. If you have already decided I don't have a point to make, I won't bother. I won't go so far to say the video upset me, per se, but it wasn't a good look on Paul and I'd rather not relive it if that'll be a waste of time.

Either way, peace to you all.

parlance

To clarify, it's not that I don't know what it was that offended people, I get that.  To me, it's not offensive, I just don't read it that way.  I don't think it was a bad look on Paul or any of that.  

Next time I will try to use more tact when I say things.  I admit, not my strongest point.  

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

31 October 2013
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The problem is that people are getting offended on behalf of others who they think are being offended yet it turns out couldnt give a toss over the issue in the first place and when, if asked don't see why anyone got in suck a spin over it in the first place. I remember the whole Wintermass issue in Birmingham where bigwigs changed the name Christmas as they felt the Muslims were offended, when consulted the Muslim community failed to see what the heck it was all about. 

Another is the Roy Hodgson leaked dressing room joke from the England Poland game a few weeks back. Blown up out of all proportion - not that anyone can say that as otherwise we are being dismissive to all racism under the sun - which is absolute bullshit. Far too eager to claim foul which only weakens the cause in the end.

 

All my own opinion and not directed to anyone about - a very general statement.

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I think another example (correct me if I'm not completely on target) is when some people in the USA got mad at the French for not following us into some war and started calling French fries Freedom fries. The French couldn't care a lick about what American's call pomme frites.

Freedom fries. Yeah, we really stuck it to the French with that one.

1 November 2013
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I don't think the French example really applies. But I'd be curious how, MMM, you're basing your opinion that others are getting offended for others who don't give a toss when you don't know our racial or ethnic makeup and, in the case of the examples brought up, you couldn't possibly have polled everyone on their opinion.  It sounds like another excuse for people to keep being offensive to me.

Personally, I'm glad when others actually recognize that something is offensive and are willing to speak up. There's so much anti-"PC" (hate that term) backlash that, to my eyes and ears, it's rare that someone's actually willing to speak up. It shouldn't be left to the targeted parties to speak up all the time. It's exhausting enough to deal with the offenses in the first place without everyone waiting for them to say something about it. It's called being an ally.

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Mja, I'm seeing post 332 as blank? I take it it wasn't first posted that way, because this whole argument that's gone up doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I think we should change the subject now. There's no point in sticking in this rut. Peace, people, peace.

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fabfouremily said
Mja, I'm seeing post 332 as blank? I take it it wasn't first posted that way, because this whole argument that's gone up doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Sorry Emily, that was my fault.  I said something along the lines of "What the hell is everyone so offended for?  Jesus Christ."  That, the way I said it, didn't go over well with Parlance, as you can see from the post right after it.  I just deleted it right away because I am impatient that way.  (I'll just go change it back because it doesn't really make a difference now anyways.)  

Then Mja lectured me about deleting stuff after I post it: 

mja6758 said

Please do not edit comments to blank spaces.

And if you do, expect them to be left in place. Other mods, Joe, please do not delete post 332.

So there you go, I am now being used as an example.  Kinda nostalgic really, takes me back to my grade school days.  a-hard-days-night-john-2

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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^ I can see what you mean, but if you post something then I don't think it's right to delete it if it causes a problem. If everyone did that, they'd be loads of blank posts all over the place and arguments that don't make an awful lot of sense. You had different opinions on something, I see. That's what a forum is all about.

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Wogblog today posts

It seems that Paul McCartney will be bringing his Out There tour to the UK in 2014. According to this website, you can participate in an auction to meet and greet with Sir Paul, as well as attend a concert when his tour reaches the UK.
Usually, whenever he tours the UK, he will also visit a few other European countries. Meanwhile, the tour hits Japan on November 11th, the release date of the new Beatles album. He will play six concerts in Japan, ending in Tokyo on November 21st.

 

Anyone got a spare 7 grand so i can meet Paul?

The site wogblog links to (gavelandgrand.com) writes in their article

...After the concert you will then go backstage to meet this living legend in person and get a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to ask a member of The Beatles about his journey and experiences on the road.

 

Don't forget to ask about the ahhh's.

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^^ Too late, mmm. Bidding closed half an hour ago.

I'm feeling a bit excited. If they've organized this meet and greet, then he must be touring here :D

''We're just knocked out. We heard about the sell out. You gotta get an album out, you owe it to the people. We're so happy we can hardly count.''

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fabfouremily said
^^ Too late, mmm. Bidding closed half an hour ago.

I'm feeling a bit excited. If they've organized this meet and greet, then he must be touring here :D

Oh. Well that sucks.

Still. Anyone want to give me seven grand anyway? 

He told us not to get overwhelmed by grief and whatever thoughts we have... to keep them happy, because any thoughts we have of him will travel to him wherever he is. (John Lennon - 27/8/67)
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The Czech is in the mail...

To the fountain of perpetual mirth, Let it roll for all its worth.

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Just PM me your bank details and i'll help myself.

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Wow, it's already time - Paul's in Japan. Which means we'll soon be seeing photos of this robot, which is all I care about. Okay, well, the setlist too, but whatever. Giant Stage Destroying Tourbot!

 

 

A look back at the 1966 arrival:

 

 

Edit: mja posted pics from the Daily Mail at the news thread.

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Some more, via Maccaboard, about Paul's tour in Japan:

Arrival at the airport.

Article at Japan Today, which mentions, among other tour-related events, that Paul's Osaka concert will be streamed live (if I can find a link that'll play outside Japan, I will post).

And an enterprising company has created a temporary Beatles-themed cafes in Tokyo and Osaka.

[x-posted to the news thread]

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