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Paul's "Out There" tour (contains spoilers)
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^^ Too late, mmm. Bidding closed half an hour ago.

I'm feeling a bit excited. If they've organized this meet and greet, then he must be touring here :D

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fabfouremily said
^^ Too late, mmm. Bidding closed half an hour ago.

I'm feeling a bit excited. If they've organized this meet and greet, then he must be touring here :D

Oh. Well that sucks.

Still. Anyone want to give me seven grand anyway? 

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The Czech is in the mail…

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Just PM me your bank details and i'll help myself.

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9 November 2013
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Wow, it's already time – Paul's in Japan. Which means we'll soon be seeing photos of this robot, which is all I care about. Okay, well, the setlist too, but whatever. Giant Stage Destroying Tourbot!

 

 

A look back at the 1966 arrival:

 

 

Edit: mja posted pics from the Daily Mail at the news thread.

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9 November 2013
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Some more, via Maccaboard, about Paul's tour in Japan:

Arrival at the airport.

Article at Japan Today, which mentions, among other tour-related events, that Paul's Osaka concert will be streamed live (if I can find a link that'll play outside Japan, I will post).

And an enterprising company has created a temporary Beatles-themed cafes in Tokyo and Osaka.

[x-posted to the news thread]

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9 November 2013
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So far as the Beatles-themed cafes go, I'm sure Paul would be offended by, and have huge problems with, people creating pop-up venues based on his visit that sell meat.

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10 November 2013
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I thought that was weird too. At least they're not calling a Paul-themed cafe. Maybe they'll observe meat-free Mondays. :-|

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10 November 2013
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Reminds me of years ago, probably back in the '90s, Morrissey was playing a gig in Scotland – I think it was Glasgow, and every ticket had an offer for a free Big Mac printed on the back. Mr. "Meat-Is-Murder" was not happy.

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10 November 2013
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Reminds me of years ago, probably back in the '90s, Morrissey was playing a gig in Scotland – I think it was Glasgow, and every ticket had an offer for a free Big Mac printed on the back. Mr. "Meat-Is-Murder" was not happy.

I am kind of a bias opinion with this stuff because I am a vegetarian.  I know Morrissey is pretty in-your-face about it, but I wouldn't blame the guy for being pissed off about that, I would be.

It's the same with Paul not wanting meat on his tour.  Is it that big of a deal for people not to eat it for a while?  If they don't like it, they don't have to work for Paul McCartney.  

It is a personal choice to be a vegetarian and I don't push it on people….  but really, it's not the worst thing in the world.  

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I agree with you, in a way. I can see Paul being mad about meat being sold on a stall ''dedicated'' to him, but ''banning'' it anywhere near him altogether is a bit much, I think. No, it's not hard to be veggie for a while, but isn't it nice to be able to have your own choice? You're not going to turn a job offer down on the basis you're hungry and you like meat, as wrong as I think it is, but I don't think it's entirely fair.

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10 November 2013
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fabfouremily said
I agree with you, in a way. I can see Paul being mad about meat being sold on a stall ''dedicated'' to him, but ''banning'' it anywhere near him altogether is a bit much, I think. No, it's not hard to be veggie for a while, but isn't it nice to be able to have your own choice? You're not going to turn a job offer down on the basis you're hungry and you like meat, as wrong as I think it is, but I don't think it's entirely fair.

Would people actually turn down a job offer to work for Paul McCartney because they couldn't eat meat?  I just can't understand that.  Seems like a small price to pay… if you even want to call it that.  Again, I am a bias opinion…  I mean, the meat-free thing isn't even just a moral thing anymore, a lot of people do it strictly for health reasons.  Really, he's doing his staff a favour.  But for people like Paul and myself who have done if for years, it's not a big deal because it's a way of life…  and once you do it for a while, you wonder why you ever needed meat in the first place.

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Doctors, even in the field of alternative medicine including naturopathy, sometimes recommend that certain patients add red meat to their diet because they have special problems that cannot be addressed with a vegetarian diet.  Certainly, someone like that could find another job if they were offered the opportunity to work for Paul's organization.  But that doesn't make Paul's position on this right.

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Funny Paper said
Doctors, even in the field of alternative medicine including naturopathy, sometimes recommend that certain patients add red meat to their diet because they have special problems that cannot be addressed with a vegetarian diet.  Certainly, someone like that could find another job if they were offered the opportunity to work for Paul's organization.  But that doesn't make Paul's position on this right.

I don't think that's a common thing…  but I'm sure it does happen.  What is it that someone would need from red meat?  I take B12 and Iron supplements…  and protein comes from MANY sources.  What is it this red meat would provide?  Not trying to argue, I'm just curious.

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I have no problem with Paul providing only a vegetarian menu for the backstage catering. If he's paying to feed them, it's his right to have what he wants on his shopping list. Where I think he takes it too far is his complete prohibition of them eating any meat whatsoever while working for him. If you pop into the local burger joint and buy yourself a burger with your own money, and eat it on the way to the venue, you should not face the sack for that. Whatever way you turn it, it is discrimination. And were he practicing any other form of discrimination, for instance refusing to employ any women as part of his roadcrew, I'm sure he'd be getting a lot of criticism from those who defend his right to discriminate against meat-eaters. It is the totality of his ruling that disturbs me.

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10 November 2013
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I don't know how we got on this topic here, since it we were discussing a Beatles cafe that serves meat, and not how Paul feeds his crew.

Nevertheless, based on the discussion at the questions you'd ask Paul thread, it doesn't sound like Paul is that totalitarian about people not eating meat if his own drummer can write openly about eating gourmet burgers. It's rather that, as you say, mja, if Paul is footing the bill, the choices are going to be vegetarian. Which I think is fair.

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mja6758 said
I have no problem with Paul providing only a vegetarian menu for the backstage catering. If he's paying to feed them, it's his right to have what he wants on his shopping list. Where I think he takes it too far is his complete prohibition of them eating any meat whatsoever while working for him. If you pop into the local burger joint and buy yourself a burger with your own money, and eat it on the way to the venue, you should not face the sack for that. Whatever way you turn it, it is discrimination. And were he practicing any other form of discrimination, for instance refusing to employ any women as part of his roadcrew, I'm sure he'd be getting a lot of criticism from those who defend his right to discriminate against meat-eaters. It is the totality of his ruling that disturbs me.

I can see that point.  People should be able to eat what they want on their own time for sure.

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parlance said
I don't know how we got on this topic here, since it we were discussing a Beatles cafe that serves meat, and not how Paul feeds his crew.

Nevertheless, based on the discussion at the questions you'd ask Paul thread, it doesn't sound like Paul is that totalitarian about people not eating meat if his own drummer can write openly about eating gourmet burgers. It's rather that, as you say, mja, if Paul is footing the bill, the choices are going to be vegetarian. Which I think is fair.

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The topic is "Paul's Out There Tour"… so it's not like we're going off topic, it's just where the conversation headed.  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

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parlance said
I don't know how we got on this topic here, since it we were discussing a Beatles cafe that serves meat, and not how Paul feeds his crew.

Nevertheless, based on the discussion at the questions you'd ask Paul thread, it doesn't sound like Paul is that totalitarian about people not eating meat if his own drummer can write openly about eating gourmet burgers. It's rather that, as you say, mja, if Paul is footing the bill, the choices are going to be vegetarian. Which I think is fair.

parlance

The topic is "Paul's Out There Tour"… so it's not like we're going off topic, it's just where the conversation headed.  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

 

I didn't say it was off topic. It headed that way because you made a connection between Morrissey not being happy with the cross-signals of selling meat with the message "Meat is Murder" with Paul not wanting meat served on his tour:

 

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mja6758 said
Reminds me of years ago, probably back in the '90s, Morrissey was playing a gig in Scotland – I think it was Glasgow, and every ticket had an offer for a free Big Mac printed on the back. Mr. "Meat-Is-Murder" was not happy.

I am kind of a bias opinion with this stuff because I am a vegetarian.  I know Morrissey is pretty in-your-face about it, but I wouldn't blame the guy for being pissed off about that, I would be.

It's the same with Paul not wanting meat on his tour.  Is it that big of a deal for people not to eat it for a while?  If they don't like it, they don't have to work for Paul McCartney.  

It is a personal choice to be a vegetarian and I don't push it on people….  but really, it's not the worst thing in the world.  

 

But no one was arguing against Paul's right to be a vegetarian or to serve his crew what he wants on his bill. Mja was pointing out that Paul wouldn't be happy with the Beatles cafe serving meat, and I agreed.

I'm pretty sure you and I are arguing the same thing, LHL, so… no argument here. :-)

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^  Duly noted.

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