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13 October 2013
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acmac said

LongHairedLady said
I like to think that Linda and Paul spent all their time together because they genuinely enjoyed each other that much.  They seemed so great together.  Jane seemed like a nice girl and all, but she seemed kinda dull too (no offence to anyone that is a fan, I have been chastised on this forum before for making stabs at Jane...  but it's just my opinion).  Linda and Paul were on the same level.  They toked together, they were in a band together, they became vegetarians, they had their family.

Absolutely! They were obviously in love and great friends. And I agree Linda was a better match for him -- she balanced him out, helped him relax, told him "it's allowed," encouraged him to get in touch with nature and live simply and be a dirty hippy minstrel, which seems to have been really good for him. Whereas I think Jane probably reinforced his compulsive/overachiever/perfectionist anxiety-loop side.

 

I certainly agree with you two about Linda, but I don't feel like I've ever known enough about Jane to have any kind of opinion of her or her relationship with Paul. I do have an affection for the bit in Many Years from Now of Paul's life with the Ashers though. I find it extraordinary that one of the world's most famous rockstars essentially lived in an attic with this eccentric family. Besides providing intellectual stimulation for Paul, it seems Jane and her folks provided a much-needed stability.

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parlance said

acmac said

LongHairedLady said
I like to think that Linda and Paul spent all their time together because they genuinely enjoyed each other that much.  They seemed so great together.  Jane seemed like a nice girl and all, but she seemed kinda dull too (no offence to anyone that is a fan, I have been chastised on this forum before for making stabs at Jane...  but it's just my opinion).  Linda and Paul were on the same level.  They toked together, they were in a band together, they became vegetarians, they had their family.

Absolutely! They were obviously in love and great friends. And I agree Linda was a better match for him -- she balanced him out, helped him relax, told him "it's allowed," encouraged him to get in touch with nature and live simply and be a dirty hippy minstrel, which seems to have been really good for him. Whereas I think Jane probably reinforced his compulsive/overachiever/perfectionist anxiety-loop side.

 

I certainly agree with you two about Linda, but I don't feel like I've ever known enough about Jane to have any kind of opinion of her or her relationship with Paul. I do have an affection for the bit in Many Years from Now of Paul's life with her family though. I find it extraordinary that one of the world's most famous rockstars essentially lived in an attic with this eccentric family. Besides providing intellectual stimulation for Paul, it seems Jane and her family provided a much-needed stability.

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True enough.  For me, it's the constant cheating that taints their relationship.  I've always been very faithful and very solid in the belief that if you are truly happy with someone, you don't cheat on them.  I'm sure he cared about Jane, but he didn't act like he did by cheating on her so much.    

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13 October 2013
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I'm sure he cared about Jane, but he didn't act like he did by cheating on her so much.    

I agree.

And your post at the Beatles news thread just reminded me I should x-post this:

 

* Guardian article/interview with Paul. A few items of note are the intro:

Sir Paul McCartney continues to be worshipped abroad, while we too often treat him as an embarrassing uncle. Now an exciting new album has brought him back home. He invites Miranda Sawyer round to his studio for a chat about the Liverpool that shaped him – and how he fell in love with Nancy

And the story of how he met Nancy:

They met in a surf shop in Long Island: McCartney was on holiday, cycling around, looking for sun cream. The reason they both had tears in their eyes was that Nancy had known Linda, Paul's first wife.

"Out Of The Blue, I met this girl and we started talking and she happened to say, 'I knew Linda.' So that was emotional. I wouldn't meet, typically, many people who knew Linda, and who knew her during her cancer treatment – and Nancy did. She's a cancer survivor herself. So it got very deep, very quickly, and it was like, 'What the hell was that?' And then I ran into her a couple of more times on the holiday, and we got to know each other and started dating. So the song is about that, about this depth of emotion, of feeling – but totally being scared to say or do anything about it. Like a tongue-tied teenager."

And a bit about his relatives:

He tells me a sad story about his uncle Harry, who, with his brother, had to go to the Bluecoat School, a live-in school for orphans, because his mum could only afford to keep her daughter. "So Harry and his brother never saw their mother except on a Sunday, where she came to the church service, and they weren't officially allowed to turn around and look at her. Though they did." Harry learnt Shakespeare at Bluecoats, and used to recite it to Paul.

"I get quite emotional about that, because I have met Thatchers and Blairs and Obamas and Clintons… and each of them has got some kind of greatness. But to me, I respect these old Liverpool people. My dad, my uncle Harry, who loved Shakespeare. Bert, my cousin, became a crossword compiler because my dad taught him to love crosswords."

 

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Regarding this whole "It's allowed" comment that he mentions in the Stern interview:

I’m harkening back to a post in the "Questions you'd ask Paul" thread. I am going to assume the role of Paul’s psychological counselor because sometimes people need to be challenged.

---BEGINNING OF COUNSELING SESSION---

Paul, you talk about Linda being so good for you because she kept telling you, “It’s allowed.” Shoot, you had been telling yourself that for years. Seeing John when your dad didn’t want you to. Nailing a condom to a wall and setting it on fire. The sheer number of women you had sex with (including cheating on Jane because you said that it was o.k because you two weren’t married). Taking LSD. Calling a woman and entire group because of her weight. Pushing the sound engineers to new heights because of the sound you were looking for. Pushing the other Beatles into trying to remain a viable group your way (did you do that because you were afraid of losing John?). I could go on, but do you catch my drift?

Perhaps you really needed someone to tell you to grow up. If someone had, they might have saved you from that disaster in Japan that left your band mates and fans so angry at you.

Are you giving out revisionist history because “It’s allowed”?

Enlighten me.

----END OF COUNSELING SESSION---

I’m glad I’m not his counselor because I would rather just snuggle up with him on a couch with some cups of hot chocolate and a can of silly string and let one thing lead to another.images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgI0d8ArB4ak6OaqnlXzPVoy2e0R8KaQXLXxVVjZlSXGtdc6mP1wImage Enlarger

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