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Our "cute Beatle" not really so cute in Vancouver.
13 January 2014
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Ron Nasty
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Definitely Empire Stadium, Vancouver, 22 August 1964. The recording of the Vancouver concert is well known.

This is Empire Stadium, 22 August 1964:

This is The Hollywood Bowl, 23 August 1964:

 

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13 January 2014
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What a train wreck and a hoot at the same time that Vancouver performance was!

13 January 2014
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
I far prefer the story of McCartney's first Vancouver concert.

If you can get hold of the recording, 18 or 19 minutes into the concert, McCartney seems to intentionally hit a wrong note on "If I Fell," and he and John then crack up as the song chugs along.

I know a guy that saw that concert!  

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

13 January 2014
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mja6758 said
Definitely Empire Stadium, Vancouver, 22 August 1964. The recording of the Vancouver concert is well known.

This is Empire Stadium, 22 August 1964:

This is The Hollywood Bowl, 23 August 1964:

 

 

Seems that they had a difficult time keeping a straight face no matter where they played 'If I Fell'...:-)

13 January 2014
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Thanks mja6758. Now I see why "If I Fell" isn't on their "Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl" record. But the Vancouver performance is still the worst.

In fact, I venture to guess that if someone were to start a "Worst Beatle performance" thread, the Vancouver "If I Fell" would win.

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13 January 2014
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Ahhh Girl said

IveJustSeenAFaceo said

That island must really love the Beatles, considering there are 3 (at least) on just this one forum. And here I am, all the way on the other side of the continent in Northeast USA.

Anyway, I was watching Chaos and Creation at Abbey Road on YouTube, and as I looked through the comments, guess who showed up?

http://i0.wp.com/i.imgur.com/tTZjGkv.png?w=200

Guess that concert really made a bad impression and kind of ruined Paul for him

WOW! That dude just can leave it alone, can he!

On a happier note, isn't that video AMAZING!!!! Paul is so freakingly talented!!!!

Yeah, the video's awesome, especially the end where he builds a totally new song from the ground up. 

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Thanks mja6758. Now I see why "If I Fell" isn't on their "Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl" record. But the Vancouver performance is still the worst.

In fact, I venture to guess that if someone were to start a "Worst Beatle performance" thread, the Vancouver "If I Fell" would win.

Perhaps they were in that "nobody is listening to us anyway" mode, so they were just messing around.

25 January 2014
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said 
I venture to guess that if someone were to start a "Worst Beatle performance" thread, the Vancouver "If I Fell" would win.

 

I'm not so sure about that, despite them cracking up in laughter, their harmonies are pretty much on and it's an enjoyable recording.  The Tokyo 1966 version of 'Paperback Writer' is probably their "worst performance", all three of their voices are uncharacteristically off on that performance and they can't use the "we couldn't hear ourselves" excuse on that show for the audience was very polite (I don't think that the Budokan audience was even allowed to stand and shout, or risk discipline by the Military Guards).  People forget about the fact that there was a lot of controversy surrounding The Beatles using the Budokan venue for it was seen as more of a shrine for war heroes and a sacred Judo Arena, the iconic 'Beatles Go Home' banner shown frequently during documentaries covering the 'Far East Tour 1966' is actually from the streets of Tokyo where Military Students were protesting The Beatles use of the Budokan, but it's often used for documenting the horrors of Manilla instead.  Perhaps hearing themselves while performing was what actually threw them off in Tokyo for they weren't used to it and were listening to themselves more, rather than feeling it.  One of the performances (can't remember if it's the Afternoon or Evening performance) even sees one of the guitars clearly out of tune as well, you can hear an attempt to fix the string during the opening tune-up before the show begins but its clearly still not right throughout the entire performance, this particular version of 'Paperback Writer' makes Vancouver 1964's 'If I Fell' sound like Ed Sullivan 1964's 'All My Loving'...:-) 

25 January 2014
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Billy Rhythm said

Into the Sky with Diamonds said 
I venture to guess that if someone were to start a "Worst Beatle performance" thread, the Vancouver "If I Fell" would win.

 

I'm not so sure about that, despite them cracking up in laughter, their harmonies are pretty much on and it's an enjoyable recording.  The Tokyo 1966 version of 'Paperback Writer' is probably their "worst performance", all three of their voices are uncharacteristically off on that performance and they can't use the "we couldn't hear ourselves" excuse on that show for the audience was very polite (I don't think that the Budokan audience was even allowed to stand and shout, or risk discipline by the Military Guards).  People forget about the fact that there was a lot of controversy surrounding The Beatles using the Budokan venue for it was seen as more of a shrine for war heroes and a sacred Judo Arena, the iconic 'Beatles Go Home' banner shown frequently during documentaries covering the 'Far East Tour 1966' is actually from the streets of Tokyo where Military Students were protesting The Beatles use of the Budokan, but it's often used for documenting the horrors of Manilla instead.  Perhaps hearing themselves while performing was what actually threw them off in Tokyo for they weren't used to it and were listening to themselves more, rather than feeling it.  One of the performances (can't remember if it's the Afternoon or Evening performance) even sees one of the guitars clearly out of tune as well, you can hear an attempt to fix the string during the opening tune-up before the show begins but its clearly still not right throughout the entire performance, this particular version of 'Paperback Writer' makes Vancouver 1964's 'If I Fell' sound like Ed Sullivan 1964's 'All My Loving'...:-) 

Have you heard "If I Needed Someone" from that show or any show from their '66 tour? George is making no effort to sound good on that song at all. Come to think of it, the only song from that tour that sounded even remotely passable was "Baby's In Black."

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25 January 2014
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wetsroosa said

 

Have you heard "If I Needed Someone" from that show or any show from their '66 tour? George is making no effort to sound good on that song at all. Come to think of it, the only song from that tour that sounded even remotely passable was "Baby's In Black."

 

Yeah, pretty much the whole Tokyo Show, especially the performance where one of the guitars is clearly out of tune, is second-rate by Beatles' standards.  I have heard a couple of good versions of 'If I Needed Someone' though, the San Francisco show has a pretty good performance (closer to the speed of 'Rubber Soul' as the Tokyo version is lagging in tempo), although Paul's voice is a little too high in the mix for my liking.  I also remember another good version of the song, but I can't remember which show it was from, it was from one of the shows that proceeded Tokyo in either Hamburg or Munich.

 

'Baby's In Black' was certainly one of their better live songs during that tour, but others were consistently solid as well, notably 'Nowhere Man' & 'I Feel Fine'.  If you can find a copy of the San Francisco show it's pretty good all around, even 'Paperback Writer' makes the grade, 'Day Tripper' is the best I've heard it live as well.  It's big drawback is that the audio isn't the greatest (I've heard worse though) and as I've said, it sounds like Tony Barrow's handheld tape recorder was situated closest to Paul's amplifier for his voice is noticeably louder than the others (Paul fans should love that!)...:-)

25 January 2014
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Never one to miss an opportunity to post this, here is the evening concert performance of  I'm Down from Circus-Krone-Bau, Munich, Germany on the 24th June 1966. A brilliant mess of a performance made even better by John(!) telling Paul what the words are and yet Paul still gets them totally wrong.

The first night in Japan is easily the nadir of Beatles shows that we have been able to hear over the years, it is horrendous. And Apple in all their wisdom sanctioned its official release, alongside the second concert they gave, in Japan. They don't give us Shea but Japan, here you go.

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31 January 2014
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I know somebody who went to the airport and got his autograph and talked to him. In Chile he gave free vegan pizza to the people who were outside his hotel. And I know people who likes to go to Paul's concerts over the world and they go to the same hotel and Paul is polite and signs them autographs.

 

A friend went to his concert since the morning and Paul have him a VIP ticket just because he went really early. Also the security during the concert let you get closer and don't tell you anything.

 

I think that if you hate Macca then you're gonna make a big deal of everything. That he wanted to change Lennon/McCartney to McCartney/Lennon to some songs, so what? Yesterday is his baby and lots of stupid people think it's Lennon's, that's why he tried. Then the thing that he sued the Beatles, he did it to protect their money. It's not like George Harrison that sued because he wanted money. He NEVER said something against his bandmates and Lennon and Harrison were acting like cunts, telling to the press all they could against Macca.

 

I just can't understand why some people hate him.

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