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Incredibly Expensive CD's
9 February 2014
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I am interested in extending my collection of Paul Mccartney CD. The main ones I would like are Red Rose Speedway, Back To The Egg and Pipes Of Peace. But on amazon the cheapest price for a new Red Rose Speedway CD is £120.00!!! Back To The Egg isn't Much better at £52.00. However Pipes Of Peace is a more reasonable £14.00. 

Does anyone know why this is.

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9 February 2014
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Same as the books; out of print and so some folk see a chance of making a fortune selling them on. Why anyone would pay £120 for a new cd when you can get it second hand for a few quid is beyond me. But then why buy a cd second hand for a tenner as is being charge in the amazon market.

Flippin' heck one dealer is selling a second hand copy and asking £49.99 for it!

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9 February 2014
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I just saw a used Red Rose Speedway for $14.98 on Amazon.com. Seeing as how you used £, I guess you are in the UK. I wonder if it would be cheaper to buy that copy from Amazon.com and have it shipped to you?

Just a thought to check into.

EDIT: Good news. That seller does ship to the Europe. The shipping cost is $3.99.

9 February 2014
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No such luck for Back to the Egg as I had for Red Rose Speedway.

$152.96

or how about this one

$1,010.00

Ridiculous.

 

9 February 2014
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Ahhh Girl said
No such luck for Back to the Egg as I had for Red Rose Speedway.

$152.96

or how about this one

$1,010.00

Ridiculous.

 

My word. A grand for a cd! Unless it comes with Paul himself its a little overpriced.

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9 February 2014
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I noticed this too.  I went on Amazon looking to purchase some of Paul's back catalogue on CD and was shocked to find they were out of print.  I would have thought that Paul's stuff would have been a steady seller.  There are plenty of Paul's contemporaries who are nothing like as commercially popular as Paul and yet their entire catalogue is available no problem.

I went to Paul's official site and, as far as I can see, the back catalogue is only available on iTunes, which I find annoying.  Not all of us wish to use iTunes.  Also, I don't like the way Apple Computers are starting to monopolise parts of the music industry. 

It annoys me the way that the music business are always going on about the evils of piracy and downloading off bittorrents and yet you find the works of a major artist are officially unavailable on CD.

If the music is officially available only through downloads then you should be able to do this direct from Paul's site.  You shouldn't have to go through iTunes.  Also, you should be able to download in flac.  For those who don't know, flac is what is called a lossless format.  It offers the highest sound quality and also enables you to transcode into another format of your choice with minimal loss of sound quality.

The Rolling Stones offer flac downloads direct from their official site.  I'd like to see Paul's site do the same.

9 February 2014
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tulane and mmm (and any others who care to join in) can meet up for an Irn Bru and a "when will Paul release more remasters" conversation. :-) I'll be a fly on the wall listening.

9 February 2014
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The cd's were available up until the beginning of the Archive collection when they were taken out, probably to stop folks buying those cheap instead of the new ones coming out.

However the Archive series is currently competing with Apple in the "who can take the longest to drag out releases to far beyond the point where anyone stopped giving a flying fadoodie" contest and so those who want to buy the albums either

  • go without,
  • download from iTunes at a cost and be sucked into itunes,
  • pay above the odds for copies from other sellers
  • hunt for a used copy
  • get a copy from a friend
  • go on a torrent site and get it from there for free, in about 5 seconds, and without being sucked into itunes. 
  • go to the nearest library, borrow a copy (order if neccessary) and burn to your computer.

Some of these options may be completely wrong and illegal.

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9 February 2014
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Amazon has mp3s also for these albums. I know it isn't the same as having a physical copy, but if you don't like iTunes, this could be one way to go until the albums are re-released or an existing less expensive copy comes up for sale.

9 February 2014
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Ahhh Girl said
Amazon has mp3s also for these albums. I know it isn't the same as having a physical copy, but if you don't like iTunes, this could be one way to go until the albums are re-released or an existing less expensive copy comes up for sale.

Never thought of amazon. 

Surely there are other legal places you can download from that aren't amazon, itunes or from the bands own website. I can't think of one of the top of my head. Some of the music stores maybe?

 

Edit: There are a number of price checkers for download sites that source numerous sites, one of them has Red Rose Speedway's lowest download price at £6:49 (from amazon or tesco downloads).

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9 February 2014
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Ahhh Girl said
I just saw a used Red Rose Speedway for $14.98 on Amazon.com. Seeing as how you used £, I guess you are in the UK. I wonder if it would be cheaper to buy that copy from Amazon.com and have it shipped to you?

Are you able to use Pound Sterling on Amazon USA?

meanmistermustard said

The cd's were available up until the beginning of the Archive collection when they were taken out, probably to stop folks buying those cheap instead of the new ones coming out.

Is this possibly why I was able to get Tug Of War, Flowers In The Dirt and London Town cheaply a few years ago. After checking today even these seem quite expensive.

 

 

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9 February 2014
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Thanks for the info mmm.

The issue of illegality is an interesting one.

The objection that the entertainment industry has always had to piracy is that the person would have paid for the item but have gotten it for free so the artist has been robbed.

However, if I am unable to go out and purchase a legitimate copy of a CD because it is out of print then if I buy a pirated CD the artist is not losing any money or, if they are, it is because the record company will not reissue the CD officially, so, if anything, it is the record company's fault the artist is losing money, not mine.

A couple more things worth noting.

1) Many people do not have a computer or do not know how to use a computer but enjoy listening to CDs.  Why should they have to spend hundreds of pounds on a computer, spend six months learning how to use the damn thing, then have to pay £x a month for a broadband connection etc just so they can listen to a piece of music?

2) If you buy from iTunes, you have to create an Apple account.  This is a privacy issue.  If I go into a record store in the high street and purchase a CD in cash, there is no trace, as it were.  If you go online that is not the case.  Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now know the extent to which we are all getting spied on by our own governments and can be in no doubt that big brother is watching us. We know that governments have subpoenaed supposedly confidential information off Apple, Google etc.

How do we feel about the prospect of the secret services labelling us as subversive extremists because we have Imagine, Happy Xmas War is Over, Revolution and Give Peace a Chance in our online music collections?  It's like the McCarthy era all over again - if you listen to Back In The USSR you must be a communist.  I'm not joking - I wish I was.  If you like Public Enemy or Rage against the Machine you've got no chance!

Not to mention the issue of identity theft which is a multibillion dollar industry now.  Phishing attacks, getting your bank account cleaned out.  The risks of computer viruses and malware etc.  People shouldn't be forced into all that.  They should still be able to buy a CD in the high street.

9 February 2014
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Ahhh Girl said
I just saw a used Red Rose Speedway for $14.98 on Amazon.com. Seeing as how you used £, I guess you are in the UK. I wonder if it would be cheaper to buy that copy from Amazon.com and have it shipped to you?

Are you able to use Pound Sterling on Amazon USA?

 

 

I've bought things from Amazon.de for family in Germany. Amazon did the money conversion thing for me somehow. Perhaps that will work for you. I'm going to PM you about this.

EDIT: that RRS seems to be gone now.?.? I know I've bought cds via the Amazon MarketPlace that came to me from the UK and the shipping was only $3.99.

Double EDIT: Now that I think about it more, when I bought those cds that came from the UK, I was using amazon.com not .co.uk. The UK seller had them listed on Amazon USA. So, now I'm unsure about the shipping cost to you from the U.S. My mind is a tangled beretta.

9 February 2014
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I had the exact same problem several months ago and my solution was amazon mp3. I'm sure the archive releases will come with extras so I'll just buy them again.

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23 March 2014
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How about this (found on Amazon - us version) - $229 usd (and the other resellers were charging the same price):

The exquisitely crafted, apple-shaped USB drive is loaded with the critically acclaimed re-mastered audio for The Beatles' 14 stereo titles, as well as all of the re-mastered CDs visual elements, including 13 mini-documentary films about the studio albums, replicated original UK album art, rare photos and expanded liner notes. A specially designed Flash interface has been installed, and the 16MB USB's audio and visual contents will be provided in FLAC 44.1 Khz 24 bit and MP3 320 Kbps formats, fully compatible with PC and Mac.

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23 March 2014
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Matt Busby said
How about this (found on Amazon - us version) - $229 usd (and the other resellers were charging the same price):

The exquisitely crafted, apple-shaped USB drive is loaded with the critically acclaimed re-mastered audio for The Beatles' 14 stereo titles, as well as all of the re-mastered CDs visual elements, including 13 mini-documentary films about the studio albums, replicated original UK album art, rare photos and expanded liner notes. A specially designed Flash interface has been installed, and the 16MB USB's audio and visual contents will be provided in FLAC 44.1 Khz 24 bit and MP3 320 Kbps formats, fully compatible with PC and Mac.

That's worth it. It's got all the albums, as well as liner notes/artwork and mini documentaries. FLAC and 420 kbps, which is great. And if I remember correctly, not that many were made. I've got no problem with $229 for the whole thing. 

Side note-this isn't Paul or a CD

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23 March 2014
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The audio on the Apple USB is said to be superior to the 2009 cd remasters (Amazon reviews), this thread from another forum doesn't think the difference is that noticeable. If you have a few days spare there is a thread that really gets into the comparison of cd v usb, only 145 pagesa-hard-days-night-john-6.

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23 March 2014
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I just got Venus And Mars (remastered) and the Deluxe Edition of Ram (mastered for iTunes) for a combined total of about $19 from the iTunes Store, then burned them to CD. So if you don't care about all the liner notes and artwork and such, you can do that (and iTunes lets you print out jewel case artwork inserts, so even that works out. And Ram came with digital liner notes) So that works out.

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23 March 2014
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You can also get the album artwork for CDs that you have uploaded to your itunes through itunes. ON Mac you can do this by going to file>library, get artwork. I love having there whole discography on iphone. I am actually trying to get all there albums on vinyl. Just got this sweet to suit cause stye record player. Folds up and has speaks built into the side. I am a little upset though, the Revolver version I purchased doesnt have Doctor Robert, And Your Bird Can Sing or I am Only Sleeping. Think its the US addition, : /. 

23 March 2014
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Yeah I already know about the artwork being supplied digitally. I was saying you can print out the supplied artwork if you want a CD of something you bought from the iTunes store.

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