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Best post-Beatles McCartney songs
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Oh, god, I think the 80's might have been Paul's worst decade. McCartney 2, Pipes, Press, and limited touring. (Although, Tug Of War is excellent.) Pipes is okay, the title track great, The Jackson duets I love (because Paul lets me tolerate MJ - not an easy feat), but the rest is rubbish. Well, Side two is… don't remember Side 1 all to well.

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One of the reasons why Pauls career was hit heavily by GMRTBS was that there was the film, album and the game and Paul plugged the film and album heavily with the film premier in Liverpool, plus Ringo was in it so there is another Beatle to stoke the fire. One of the most difficult things to understand is how the majority of the GMRTB project is awful yet include No More Lonely Nights which is a classic Paul song, and both the ballad and dance versions are so different. 

Tug Of War is a stong album however Ebony and Ivory has dated badly as has Say Say Say from Pipes Of Peace which is a very inconsistant album. To then be followed by GMRTBS and PTP which were commercial disasters would have been really difficult for anyone to recover from (according to Wikipedia PTP got high praise from the critics so a lot of damage must have been caused by Broad Street for it not to have sold). Thankfully Paul found Elvis Costello as a successful, albeit brief, writing partner and together they wrote material that is strong,  many of which feature on Flowers In The Dirt or Off The Ground. And without doubt The Beatles Anthology heavily inspired and rejuvenated Paul not just in his attitude to the studio (Flaming Pie being one of Pauls best solo albums) but also his standing in the public's eye.

 

There is also the arguement that not touring was a contributor to Pauls mid-80's dip, not just being in the public eye but also the buzz of performing in front of an audience.

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ITSWD, it will never be time to reconsider GMRTBS. The Beatles covers are cringingly embarrassing as are the macca solo songs that were re-covered and the other 2 new songs, No Values and Not Such A Bad Boy, are dreadful. The only reason for owning this is for the mixes of NMLN if you are a collector.

And you're right, even in the beatles Paul has been branded as writing fluff and "granny shit" and being the soft lovey one as John put it whilst John was the hard writing, insightful, deep, meaningful one (which is complete bollocks) and that unfairly extends into his solo career. Tho Paul didnt help himself by writing Silly Love Songs to answer his accusers, a song that is so dated its ridiculous. Unfortunately there was a period when Paul was slated for writing love songs and basically being Paul but if he dared step out and do something, anything else he was equally criticised for daring to not be what people wanted or expected him to be.

 

Ive never understood why We All Stand Together is endlessly slated. The song is excellent, George Martin's score is beautiful, and the film Rupert and The Frog Song, from which it is featured, is a brilliant cartoon (if you havent seen its on youtube and well worth a viewing) plus it reached #3 in the UK charts. Is it because it features the word 'bum' a lot of times and the press are being puerile? Maybe its going back to the Yellow Submarine scenario?

 

And to go into a different area, the amount of times ive seen idiots write that the best 2 beatles died first and we're 'left' with Paul and Ringo? Seriously?! How sick and incredibly stupid can some people be? Yes John and George died way too young and both were huge losses in totally different ways but that totally pisses me off and infuriates and saddens me.

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Another one to add the list is One of These Days from McCartney II.

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meanmistermustard said
Another one to add the list is One of These Days from
McCartney II.

I LOVE that song. I think it is the most beautiful song on McCartney II. You might think I'm silly for thinking this, but I always see it as a dialogue to John because of the line, "when you've got time to please yourself." Around this time, Paul had been quoted as saying he thought John was not making music because he was just trying to be himself for once, instead of being what everyone wanted him to be. Of course, John responded that Paul didn't know anything about him anymore...only to then go on and say basically the same thing. It's hilarious to read all the different ways John contradicted himself in magazines, often in the same interview. What's even more amazing is that no one ever called him on it, and he is still thought of as being the most honest Beatle. Anyway, his little contradictions make him all the more lovable, if not infuriating.

Or, I could be reading more into it than is needed, which I frequently do...

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She's My Baby is a fabulous song when played immediately before Beware My Love (which has a great Macca vocal). For some reason those two work amazingly well together and arent as good when on their own.

 

Always willing to repeat that Wings At The Speed Of Sound is a superb album, one of the best Paul albums when played the whole way thru. Tho as individual songs it does lose some of its greatness.

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Lately I seem to be playing "Friends to Go" a lot. Something about it really gets me.

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I'll third the love for Winedark Open Sea, and second the love for The Lovers that Never Were. Ever heard the demo version?

http://youtu.be/6hD8S49UpLQ

That's apparently the version that blew Elvis Costello off his feet.

I find that there is some really underrate songs on Driving Rain. Most people overlook it because it comes right before the smashing Chaos and Creation. I love She's Given Up Talking, Magic, About You, Tiny Bubble, Spinning on an Axis, Lonely Road, From a Lover to a Friend, Riding to Jaipur, and Your Way. It does feature the dismal Driving Rain and the much maligned Freedom, though.

Also, from around this time is the unreleased India:

God, I love Paul!paul-mccartney

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When I first heard Ram, I thought it was quite "meh."  But for reasons I cannot pinpoint, the more I've heard it the more it has grown on me.   I think George and John both put out terrific post-Beatles work, and I don't think their work ought to be viewed as a competitive sport.  That being said, I think Ram is simply stunningly good in its diversity, its free-spiritedness and its inventiveness.  It's right up there as one of the best post-Beatles albums, and I'd say it's as good as several Beatles albums.  It may be lacking a straight-forward flat-out masterpiece, but I venture to say it may be the best album ever made without a masterpiece song.  If I were forced to nominate a masterpiece from Ram, I'd choose "Back Seat of My Car."   Again, the same story.  The first time I heard it struck me as meandering and tough to follow and plagued with odd chord segues.   But now I think it's simply gorgeous, for simple beauty among the best stuff in rock.  

Here's a question.  What's so terrible about Silly Love Songs?  The lyrics are no better than average, admittedly, but he has three catchy melodies, and he joins them quite creatively.  Now there's no doubt I like Paul (and the other Beatles as well) far more than the average rock fan, but I don't give any of them, including Paul, an absolute free ride.  I personally think Wonderful Christmas Time ranks among the worst pop pieces ever written.  Indeed, Paul's written perhaps a half-dozen post-Beatles songs that are beyond cringe-worthy.  (I even quite dislike "Dear Friend," which is quite inconceivable for some.) But given the hundreds of songs he's written, that's not so surprising.  But back to my question, can someone explain what makes Silly Love Songs subject a giant target of derision?  Is it simply the subject matter?  The lyrics?  Surely it's not the music. 

Other favorite post-Beatles McCartney songs:

That Would Be Something

Maybe I'm Amazed

Most everything on Ram

My Love (brings back good memories of hearing it on am radio as a kid)

Hi Hi Hi (pure fun)

Band On The Run

1985

Let Me Roll It

Jet

You Gave Me the Answer (very underrated song)

 Baby's Request (Okay, so I have a weakness for his Dance Hall music, the music that John derided.)

Coming Up

Wanderlust  (one of the prettiest melodies he wrote)

 

Okay...so I'll end here and return to finish on another post. 

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