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2.16pm
26 March 2012
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I've been having a big Ram phase recently (well, I always am but as of late it's been ridiculous) and I find it difficult to choose which songs I like most and least, they're all so great.
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey and Back Seat of My Car seem the obvious candidates for best, beautiful and eccentric "pocket symphonies" in the Brian Wilson vein. But there's also Too Many People, Dear Boy, Monkberry Moon Delight, Long Haired Lady, Smile Away… I used to feel the weakest was Eat at Home but since then I've changed my opinion drastically and now I'm unsure.
Thoughts?
4.32pm
1 May 2010
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Can I make a suggestion?
Instead of asking which song is the best or worst from each Beatle and Beatle solo album, why don't talk in general about it? Because honestly it looks like the forum is becoming Rolling Stones with their best of lists.
Just a comment.
8.20pm
4 December 2010
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I agree with Mith, I'm not a big fan of all these threads saying what the best and worst songs on each album are, or ranking them all.
Still, here are my opinions.
Best: Monkberry Moon Delight, Paul is on fire. Sure, the lyrics are meaningless, but who cares when you sing them with that passion? Great tune. Second place would be Too Many People, the only song with any real meaning on the album- "too many people preaching praaaactises!"
Worst: Long Haired Lady. If this was half the length then it might be tolerable, but that outro drags and drags and drags. It doesn't help that the lyric is "love is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong". Always gets skipped. Second worst: The Back Seat Of My Car, faux-sentimentality overdrive. It's sloppy and all over the place, it can't decide whether it wants to be a poor attempt at The Long And Winding Road or a poor attempt at Monkberry Moon Delight. The lyrics make me cringe. Still, it is listenable.
10.17pm
1 December 2009
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Best: Smile Away – I just love when Paul's in "boogie mode" (Hi Hi Hi, Helen Wheels, etc.)
Worst: Long-Haired Lady – Can't stand Linda's petulant singing on this.
1.11am
1 May 2011
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I far prefer the mono mix so am thoroughly pissed off that i would have to pay a fortune to get it - a fortune i neither have or would be willing to spend.
I think for most people this was a grower lp in that the more you listened to it the better it got, and was slated by many reviewers at the time who have since changed their stance.
And the John fued continued with Too Many People.
Anyway best song either Uncle Albert or Two Many People.
2.39am
5 November 2011
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Best: Monkberry Moon Delight – I just love everything about this song, and Paul's vocals on it are amazing. Heart Of The Country comes in second. I don't know why I like this song so much, it's just really cute I guess.
Worst: Long Haired Lady – Sometimes I absolutely love this song, but other times it just really annoys me.
1.15pm
26 March 2012
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mithveaen said
Can I make a suggestion?
Instead of asking which song is the best or worst from each Beatle and Beatle solo album, why don't talk in general about it? Because honestly it looks like the forum is becoming Rolling Stones with their best of lists.
Just a comment.
I never said anything about making lists. The idea of the thread was to discuss in general which were the stronger and weaker songs on the record. It's a pretty open topic of discussion, and could go in far more directions than if I'd asked people to rank songs, or made a poll.
1.17pm
26 March 2012
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mithveaen said
Can I make a suggestion?Instead of asking which song is the best or worst from each Beatle and Beatle solo album, why don't talk in general about it? Because honestly it looks like the forum is becoming Rolling Stones with their best of lists.
Just a comment.
I never said anything about making lists. The idea of the thread was to discuss in general which were the stronger and weaker songs on the record. It's a pretty open topic of discussion, and could go in far more directions than if I'd asked people to rank songs, or made a poll. Also the thread title says "best and worst songs" rather than "best and worst song" so you have the option to talk about as many songs as you like rather than just putting one best and one worst.
12.20am
12 April 2012
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Ram is definitely one of my favourite McCartney albums. I decided to do a poll
What is your favourite song on RAM?
- Too Many People
- 3 Legs
- Ram On
- Dear Boy
- Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
- Smile Away
- Heart Of The Country
- Monkberry Moon Delight
- Eat At Home
- Long Haired Lady
- Ram On (the second version)
- The Back Seat Of My Car
1.26am
9 May 2012
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I love "Too many people", "Back seat of my car" and "Uncle Albert". Not so sure about the weaker songs, I think I will have to re-listen to album tomorrow.
4.32am
19 September 2010
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George – can we please stop making polls every single time a thread comes up? Polls reduce things to black and white, and these threads and this forum are a place of debate, and debates of black and white issues tend to end with anger, and we aren't here for that. Can we keep polls out of these threads?
Edit: My objection to polls isn't absolute, nor fierce. It is however, constant. Why do we need to reduce everything to anonymous data? Here's what I mean. I love Back Seat of The Car. The Walrus has described it as faux-sentimentality overdrive. It's sloppy and all over the place, it can't decide whether it wants to be a poor attempt at The Long And Winding Road or a poor attempt at Monkberry Moon Delight. The lyrics make me cringe. Still, it is listenable.
5.59am
1 May 2010
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My point is that it becomes repetitive watching topics named "Best and worst of" or "what's your favorite…?"
But do as you please. I think everybody has the freedom to create topics and the freedom to discuss on it or not. In my case, I'd rather not talk about my "favorite" things because I have no favorite with the Beatles. As simple as that. And it's kind of restraining trying to "categorize" "best" and "worst". That was my point.
So carry on. 
11.19am
12 April 2012
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mr. Sun King, you're right, of course I understand this
1.40pm
26 March 2012
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As much as I appreciate the attempt to further the discussion, I made this thread without a poll for a reason. As I said before:
Ben Ramon said
I never said anything about making lists. The idea of the thread was to discuss in general which were the stronger and weaker songs on the record. It's a pretty open topic of discussion, and could go in far more directions than if I'd asked people to rank songs, or made a poll. Also the thread title says "best and worst songs" rather than "best and worst song" so you have the option to talk about as many songs as you like rather than just putting one best and one worst.
6.45am
3 October 2012
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Favorites: 'Dear Boy', 'Uncle Albert'. 'Too Many People'
Least Favorite: 'Long Haired Lady'
It's amazing that critics ripped this one, especially in comparison to Lennon's first two, as this album is quite adventurous in comparison…Maybe Paul should have pulled out his prick on the cover…That would have really made it 'experimental' and 'deep'.
1.21pm
26 March 2012
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frankdialogue said
Favorites: 'Dear Boy', 'Uncle Albert'. 'Too Many People'
Least Favorite: 'Long Haired Lady'
It's amazing that critics ripped this one, especially in comparison to Lennon's first two, as this album is quite adventurous in comparison…Maybe Paul should have pulled out his prick on the cover…That would have really made it 'experimental' and 'deep'.
Ouch!
I wouldn't say Ram is any more adventurous than Plastic Ono Band. It's certainly more florid and elaborate in terms of melody and production, but John's concept of stripping everything back to a bare minimum musically was pretty groundbreaking. And while I have no problem with any of the lyrics on Ram, and frequently find myself bamboozled by how little merit contemporary critics found in the record, you've got to admit that "I was the dreamweaver, but now I'm reborn, I was the walrus, but now I'm John, and so dear friends, you'll just have to carry on: the dream is over" is more adventurous on a large scale than "Admiral Halsey notified me, he had to have a bath or he couldn't get to sleep, I had another look and I had a cup of tea and a butter pie."
5.16pm
3 October 2012
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Ben Ramon said:
Ouch!
I wouldn't say Ram is any more adventurous than Plastic Ono Band. It's certainly more florid and elaborate in terms of melody and production, but John's concept of stripping everything back to a bare minimum musically was pretty groundbreaking. And while I have no problem with any of the lyrics on Ram, and frequently find myself bamboozled by how little merit contemporary critics found in the record, you've got to admit that "I was the dreamweaver, but now I'm reborn, I was the walrus, but now I'm John, and so dear friends, you'll just have to carry on: the dream is over" is more adventurous on a large scale than "Admiral Halsey notified me, he had to have a bath or he couldn't get to sleep, I had another look and I had a cup of tea and a butter pie."
Well, I liked the 'Plastic Ono Band', and it certainly had some good lyrics, but I was primarily commenting on the critics…'POB' certainly was more direct, and perhaps shocking, if you go for that sort of thing…But many of the lyrics were rather juvenile, especially 'Working Class Hero', which I always thought was a rather miserable tune, and loaded with hypocrisy at that, as John was the most middle class of all the Beatles in upbringing…But, if an artist falls into the trap of trying to make 'big statements', then you will get things like that.
'Ram' is a record that needs repeated listenings to fully appreciate, and Paul had a few messages in there too, just more subtle…And the music is certainly more interesting….John was certainly listening, as a number of tracks on 'Imagine' illustrate…But, then again, these are two different writers, and with the collaboration ended, you get a bit more extreme version of each ones writing style, some good stuff, some not so good stuff.
1.31am
1 November 2012
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vonbontee said
Worst: Long-Haired Lady – Can't stand Linda's petulant singing on this.
I think Linda's voice was cute in a girlish sort of way. (also cf. "I Am Your Singer" from the Wild Life)
1.33am
1 November 2012
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GeorgeTSimpson said
Ram is definitely one of my favourite McCartney albums. I decided to do a poll
What is your favourite song on RAM?
- Too Many People
- 3 Legs
- Ram On
- Dear Boy
- Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
- Smile Away
- Heart Of The Country
- Monkberry Moon Delight
- Eat At Home
- Long Haired Lady
- Ram On (the second version)
- The Back Seat Of My Car
Total Voters: 11
"Uncle Albert" being the winner does not surprise me (I voted for that too); but "Dear Boy" coming in second did.
1.38am
1 November 2012
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For those decrying lists and polls, I say: "Pish posh!"
Here's my ranking of the Ram songs (#1 is best, etc.)
1. Uncle Albert
2. 3 Legs
3. Too Many People
4. Heart of the Country
5. Ram On
6. Monkberry Moon Delight
7. Back Seat of My Car
8. Dear Boy
9. Smile Away
10. Longhaired Lady
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