The Beatles Bible - Topic: A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/ Simple:Press Version 5.2.6 vonbontee on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p56030 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p56030

Ben Ramon said

vonbontee said
OK, I'm sorry, Paulsbass - it's just that when you quote somebody's post like that, I usually assume you're arguing with them! I misunderstood you. Apologies.

Like I say, I look forward to hearing "Tug of War" (followed by "Flaming Pie" and "Back to the Egg" and after that, who knows?) in the indefinite future!

I'd give Back to the Egg a miss personally, it has some gems (and it's better than London Town- yuck!) but I agree with some people that it's the moment where Paul fell to dinosaurism and became somewhat less relevant.

Maybe so ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:48:05 +0100 vonbontee on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p56025 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p56025

Ben Ramon said

meanmistermustard said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 It is a very, how shall we say, erm soft album; apart from Morse Moose there is little that gets it going. I adore With A Little Luck and a few others are pleasant enough but the more its played the less most of it appeals. Its no way as bad as GMRTB or Driving Rain, man those 2 suck majorly, but it would be at the lower depths of Pauls catalogue pile of must hears.

I like the song itself- the melody, lyrics, etc. But the production is really horrible, the synths ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:21:14 +0100 GeorgeTSimpson on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p56001 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p56001 Also I think that John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, John's songs on Double Fantasy and all things must pass are better than the first four beatles albums but again that's only my opinion if someone says the first four beatles albums are his favourite beatles album, I understand that

]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:04:27 +0100 paulsbass on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55999 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55999

Into the Sky with Diamonds said
I'm not as down as you guys are on London Town.

There's no awesome song, but plenty are enjoyable.

The first five songs go down easy like a melon appetizer that's got some flavor but nothing great. "London Town" is indeed on the weak side, but I've noticed that a number of otherwise excellent McC albums start off with a song that's just fair.

I really have always liked "Deliver Your Children" - the guitar, the harmonies, the pace. To me it's another "I've Just Seen a Face"

And yes, "Don't Let it Bring You Down" gets ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:32:03 +0100 paulsbass on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55997 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55997

GeorgeTSimpson said
Paulsbass, I don't like the early beatles rock'n'roll songs so I prefer many of paul's solo songs, but, definitely not all (sorry for writing that). I actually love help!, I don't know why I wrote five albums, I meant four

Now we're talking!

And I feel excactly the way you do, except for the love for "Help", I never warmed up to it much.

]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:19:43 +0100 meanmistermustard on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55996 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55996 Well ive nearly liked Dont Let It Be Bring You Downa-hard-days-night-ringo-6. Its so slow and doesnt do anything apart from keep going (4 1/2 minutes and nothing happens), the vocals are so bland i find, the lyrics are decent but the way its sung - blah, like a very milky cup of tea or a rice cake, there is nothing there for taste. Summers Day Song has a beautiful melody and is so at peace and can take me away DLIBYD irritates me in its dullness.

 

I like Girlfriend, its one of the few i have time ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:08:00 +0100 Into the Sky with Diamonds on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55979 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55979 I'm not as down as you guys are on London Town.

There's no awesome song, but plenty are enjoyable.

The first five songs go down easy like a melon appetizer that's got some flavor but nothing great. "London Town" is indeed on the weak side, but I've noticed that a number of otherwise excellent McC albums start off with a song that's just fair.

I really have always liked "Deliver Your Children" - the guitar, the harmonies, the pace. To me it's another "I've Just Seen a Face"

And yes, "Don't Let it Bring You Down" gets a thumbs up; it has a calm, ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 03:50:51 +0100 Ben Ramon on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55973 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55973

meanmistermustard said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 It is a very, how shall we say, erm soft album; apart from Morse Moose there is little that gets it going. I adore With A Little Luck and a few others are pleasant enough but the more its played the less most of it appeals. Its no way as bad as GMRTB or Driving Rain, man those 2 suck majorly, but it would be at the lower depths of Pauls catalogue pile of must hears.

I like the song itself- the melody, lyrics, etc. But the production is really horrible, the synths just suck all ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:41:43 +0100 meanmistermustard on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55965 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-4/#p55965 a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 It is a very, how shall we say, erm soft album; apart from Morse Moose there is little that gets it going. I adore With A Little Luck and a few others are pleasant enough but the more its played the less most of it appeals. Its no way as bad as GMRTB or Driving Rain, man those 2 suck majorly, but it would be at the lower depths of Pauls catalogue pile of must hears.

Im of the opinion that by the late 70's Wings were coming to the end of their shelf life, the Concert for Kampuchea being the ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:21:10 +0100 Ben Ramon on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55960 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55960

meanmistermustard said
Back To The Egg hasnt aged well in my opinion, sounding a little outdated (it might sound better when we get the remaster in 2034 since Pauls project is taking decades to be completed) - i havent played complete for a long time. London Town has some good parts but the opening few tracks kill the album, they are up there with the crappest Macca works, the song London Town is such a bore with dreadful lyrics.

I really can't bear London Town, it's just so bland and insipid, really lacking in good songs, and after the crackle which Jimmy McCulloch and ...]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:03:21 +0100 meanmistermustard on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55958 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55958 Back To The Egg hasnt aged well in my opinion, sounding a little outdated (it might sound better when we get the remaster in 2034 since Pauls project is taking decades to be completed) - i havent played complete for a long time. London Town has some good parts but the opening few tracks kill the album, they are up there with the crappest Macca works, the song London Town is such a bore with dreadful lyrics.

]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:56:01 +0100 Ben Ramon on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55953 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55953

vonbontee said
OK, I'm sorry, Paulsbass - it's just that when you quote somebody's post like that, I usually assume you're arguing with them! I misunderstood you. Apologies.

Like I say, I look forward to hearing "Tug of War" (followed by "Flaming Pie" and "Back to the Egg" and after that, who knows?) in the indefinite future!

I'd give Back to the Egg a miss personally, it has some gems (and it's better than London Town- yuck!) but I agree with some people that it's the moment where Paul fell to dinosaurism and became somewhat less relevant.

]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:32:35 +0100 vonbontee on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55946 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55946 OK, I'm sorry, Paulsbass - it's just that when you quote somebody's post like that, I usually assume you're arguing with them! I misunderstood you. Apologies.

Like I say, I look forward to hearing "Tug of War" (followed by "Flaming Pie" and "Back to the Egg" and after that, who knows?) in the indefinite future!

]]> Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:05:29 +0100 paulsbass on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55943 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55943

vonbontee said
So he produced 3 McCartney tracks throughout the entirety of the 1970s, big deal. We were referring to ALL of the Beatles' solo careers. And if "Teaming up with Martin was the key to the success of..." etc., aren't you kind of illustrating my point?

"Ram" and "Band on the Run" are excellent productions indeed. But maybe George Martin might've taken Paul aside while recording "Wild Life" and "Red Rose Speedway" to inform that the material was generally subpar.

(I still haven't heard "Tug of War", but I look forward to doing so someday!)

Who said I wanted or tried ...]]> Thu, 16 Aug 2012 23:51:26 +0100 vonbontee on A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55932 Paul McCartney http://www.beatlesbible.com/forum/paul-mccartney/a-case-for-reevaluating-pauls-and-the-rest-of-the-beatles-post-beatles-careers/page-3/#p55932 True, if you can get past "Hold Me Tight" !

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