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A case for reevaluating Paul's (and the rest of The Beatles') post-Beatles careers
17 August 2012
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 It is a very, how shall we say, erm soft album; apart from Morse Moose there is little that gets it going. I adore With A Little Luck and a few others are pleasant enough but the more its played the less most of it appeals. Its no way as bad as GMRTB or Driving Rain, man those 2 suck majorly, but it would be at the lower depths of Pauls catalogue pile of must hears.

Im of the opinion that by the late 70's Wings were coming to the end of their shelf life, the Concert for Kampuchea being the perfect closure.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
17 August 2012
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meanmistermustard said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 It is a very, how shall we say, erm soft album; apart from Morse Moose there is little that gets it going. I adore With A Little Luck and a few others are pleasant enough but the more its played the less most of it appeals. Its no way as bad as GMRTB or Driving Rain, man those 2 suck majorly, but it would be at the lower depths of Pauls catalogue pile of must hears.

I like the song itself- the melody, lyrics, etc. But the production is really horrible, the synths just suck all the life out of it and even when Paul does his gritty vocal it sounds flat. It's one of his worst '70s singles in my book. I do also like "Backwards Traveller/Cuff Link."

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17 August 2012
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I'm not as down as you guys are on London Town.

There's no awesome song, but plenty are enjoyable.

The first five songs go down easy like a melon appetizer that's got some flavor but nothing great. "London Town" is indeed on the weak side, but I've noticed that a number of otherwise excellent McC albums start off with a song that's just fair.

I really have always liked "Deliver Your Children" – the guitar, the harmonies, the pace. To me it's another "I've Just Seen a Face"

And yes, "Don't Let it Bring You Down" gets a thumbs up; it has a calm, spiritual side that really works, as in "Summer's Day Song" on McC II

Ironically, "With a Little Luck" is one of the songs I really don't care for. To my ears it's maudlin, trite, thin…;  the production is very unappealing (rare for a McCartney track)

"Girlfriend" is an example of how McCartney fans can disagree: I hate that high castrato voice. Perhaps I'd like it in a different key.

Yet Michael Jackson chose THAT particular McCartney song to cover on one of his early albums!

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17 August 2012
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Well ive nearly liked Dont Let It Be Bring You Downa-hard-days-night-ringo-6. Its so slow and doesnt do anything apart from keep going (4 1/2 minutes and nothing happens), the vocals are so bland i find, the lyrics are decent but the way its sung – blah, like a very milky cup of tea or a rice cake, there is nothing there for taste. Summers Day Song has a beautiful melody and is so at peace and can take me away DLIBYD irritates me in its dullness.

 

I like Girlfriend, its one of the few i have time for. If i had to skim my macca collection down to only the ones i really liked from London Town i would be left with: Children, Children; Girlfriend; Deliver You're Children; Im Carrying; Morse Moose and the Grey Goose; With A Little Luck.  I suppose 5 isnt bad from any album but the rest could happily be dunked in a vat of acid – and thats 9 songs.

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17 August 2012
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GeorgeTSimpson said
Paulsbass, I don't like the early beatles rock'n'roll songs so I prefer many of paul's solo songs, but, definitely not all (sorry for writing that). I actually love help!, I don't know why I wrote five albums, I meant four

Now we're talking!

And I feel excactly the way you do, except for the love for "Help", I never warmed up to it much.

17 August 2012
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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
I'm not as down as you guys are on London Town.

There's no awesome song, but plenty are enjoyable.

The first five songs go down easy like a melon appetizer that's got some flavor but nothing great. "London Town" is indeed on the weak side, but I've noticed that a number of otherwise excellent McC albums start off with a song that's just fair.

I really have always liked "Deliver Your Children" – the guitar, the harmonies, the pace. To me it's another "I've Just Seen a Face"

And yes, "Don't Let it Bring You Down" gets a thumbs up; it has a calm, spiritual side that really works, as in "Summer's Day Song" on McC II

Ironically, "With a Little Luck" is one of the songs I really don't care for. To my ears it's maudlin, trite, thin…;  the production is very unappealing (rare for a McCartney track)

"Girlfriend" is an example of how McCartney fans can disagree: I hate that high castrato voice. Perhaps I'd like it in a different key.

Yet Michael Jackson chose THAT particular McCartney song to cover on one of his early albums!

I'm in for some more appreciation!

While it's far from being a masterpiece I checked it out recently and was surprised how I listened to song after song without feeling the need to skip anything.

London Town – yes it drags a bit, but the chorus is still catchy.

Cafe on the left bank – Cool guitar work, nice vocals.

I'm carrying – Even George Harrison was very impressed with this. Just beautiful. I love how it builts up until finally the low double bass sets in.

Backwards traveller – Short enough to not get too annyoing.

Cuff link – I like it, really cool instrumental.

Children, children – Not my favourite, but nice acoustic touch.

Girlfriend – He actually wrote that with Michael Jackson in mind, so it's not that surprising he covered it, back then, when Paul was still the bigger star…

I've had enough – nice rough song

With a little luck – at least two minutes too long, but just a nice little piece.

Famous groupies – A little fun song

Deliver your children – Good Denny Laine song, nice change of pace.

Name and adress – Paul going Elvis or Carl Perkins, not long enough to get really annoying.

Don't let it bring you down – A real gem, my second favourite song on the album.

Mr. Morse Moose – My favourite!! I like his experimental, mostly instrumental, fun songs.

 

So what's not to like?!

17 August 2012
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Also I think that John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, John's songs on Double Fantasy and all things must pass are better than the first four beatles albums but again that's only my opinion if someone says the first four beatles albums are his favourite beatles album, I understand that

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17 August 2012
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Ben Ramon said

meanmistermustard said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 It is a very, how shall we say, erm soft album; apart from Morse Moose there is little that gets it going. I adore With A Little Luck and a few others are pleasant enough but the more its played the less most of it appeals. Its no way as bad as GMRTB or Driving Rain, man those 2 suck majorly, but it would be at the lower depths of Pauls catalogue pile of must hears.

I like the song itself- the melody, lyrics, etc. But the production is really horrible, the synths just suck all the life out of it

Indeed. There was a point in the late 70s where, after a decade of creative usage, artists started using synthesizers as mere glorified string sections. Boring! And it didn't help that the synth part on the bridge sounded exactly like "For No One" recycled.

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17 August 2012
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Ben Ramon said

vonbontee said
OK, I'm sorry, Paulsbass – it's just that when you quote somebody's post like that, I usually assume you're arguing with them! I misunderstood you. Apologies.

Like I say, I look forward to hearing "Tug of War" (followed by "Flaming Pie" and "Back to the Egg" and after that, who knows?) in the indefinite future!

I'd give Back to the Egg a miss personally, it has some gems (and it's better than London Town- yuck!) but I agree with some people that it's the moment where Paul fell to dinosaurism and became somewhat less relevant.

Maybe so but I'll still have to hear it for myself first. It's really incredible that after all this time (31 years after buying "Wings' Greatest" for 4 bucks, new!), I've still only heard like 2/3 of the man's '70s output.

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