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18 May 2011
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I prefer the Anthology 3 version, but a great song.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

18 May 2011
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18 May 2011
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DoctorRobert
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Yeah, the Anthology version has a much nicer ambience to it. Something about the song makes me incredibly emotional though. A certain je ne sais quoi.

You all will have read that Dave Dee is no longer with us. But Mickey and Titch and I would like to carry on the good work that's always gone down in number two.
23 May 2011
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10 July 2012
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I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

9 February 2014
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Agree that junk is a beautiful melody.

They should have put it on the White Album IMHO.

8 September 2014
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Funny Paper
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Interesting, three BBers (not to be confused with Biebers) above said they liked the Anthology 3 version of "Junk" better -- but I could not disagree more.  I think some people like the feel of human messiness and spontaneity (which the Anthology 3 version has) more than the slick perfectionism of music refined in a studio after numerous rehearsals and re-recordings (and we know Paul was infamous for being preoccupied by that process). 

When one compares the two versions, one sees (or hears) the process Paul must have gone through, where the Anthology 3 version shows him still diddling and experimenting with his "la da da" scat singing parts and acoustic guitar noodling; while apparently by the time of the McCartney version, he had got that down pat and had the best form of it in his mind to record as the final.  I happen to be a musician who appreciates that perfectionism that Paul was concerned with (similarly shared by other musicians I like -- Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon).  Also, the final version has perfected a mood of utter sedate calm, almost zen-like, almost like being at a remove from a living memory through the medium of an old black-and-white photograph, which I think is essential for that song and its vague ambiance.

Another thing about "Junk", while I've got you on the line, is that the "la da da" scat part he does (twice I think) on the McCartney final version is quite musically inspired and almost reminds me of a Mozart melody.

Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...
8 September 2014
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Yes, the acoustic guitar playing is excellent in Junk; it's one of too few songs where Paul showed off his finger-picking ability (Blackbird, Mother Nature's Son, Heart Of The Country, 3 Legs; I can't think of any others offhand...).

The sound of the guitar in Junk to me sounds like he didn't record until the strings were broken in and sounded "used" -- unlike his later uses of acoustic guitar in later albums, where it always sounds brand new and crisp.  I prefer the "used" sound, myself.

Faded flowers, wait in a jar, till the evening is complete... complete... complete... complete...
9 September 2014
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Funny Paper said 
The sound of the guitar in Junk to me sounds like he didn't record until the strings were broken in and sounded "used" -- unlike his later uses of acoustic guitar in later albums, where it always sounds brand new and crisp.  I prefer the "used" sound, myself.

Yes I agree.  He also often tunes down (like on Yesterday) so you can hear the slapping and buzzing of the looser strings.  I love the sound he gets.

I wonder if anyone else can confirm this- If you tune up from his solo bottom E on the intro to Mother Natures Son, it's clear he has it just slightly lower than standard tuning but the top E appears to be flatter in comparison to the others.  I don't know if this top E thing is my ears or my guitar!  Needless to say it sounds fab :-)  

9 September 2014
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Funny Paper
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Sugarplum fairy said

Funny Paper said 
The sound of the guitar in Junk to me sounds like he didn't record until the strings were broken in and sounded "used" -- unlike his later uses of acoustic guitar in later albums, where it always sounds brand new and crisp.  I prefer the "used" sound, myself.

Yes I agree.  He also often tunes down (like on Yesterday) so you can hear the slapping and buzzing of the looser strings.  I love the sound he gets.

I wonder if anyone else can confirm this- If you tune up from his solo bottom E on the intro to Mother Natures Son, it's clear he has it just slightly lower than standard tuning but the top E appears to be flatter in comparison to the others.  I don't know if this top E thing is my ears or my guitar!  Needless to say it sounds fab :-)  

I'm a little confused by your description: your "but" implies a difference, but isn't "lower" the same as "flatter"?  If they are, that means you're saying Paul might be tuning both the bass E string and the high E string slightly looser/lower.  Also, since the song is mainly in D, I'm pretty sure he tunes his bass E string all the way down to sound a D note (but that could be further flatted slightly if you're right).  Not sure why Paul would do that, other than to get a slightly "sour" effect.

On another song -- "Only One More Kiss" (from Red Rose Speedway) -- that has what seems to be four guitars: 

him fingerpicking an electric guitar to sound like an acoustic guitar (sort of country style)

a second electric guitar layered over also picking stuff

a third electric guitar strumming

an acoustic guitar strumming (I could be wrong about the inclusion of this fourth guitar)

It sounds to me like all the guitars are ever so slightly out of tune with each other, and yet it couldn't possibly be that Paul just was sloppy and didn't have his instruments tuned; so I conclude that he did this on purpose -- and the point is, it works!

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9 September 2014
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9 September 2014
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Haha, you're all a bunch of freaks!  The song is exactly what the name implies:  JUNK!  At best it's, "on par" with 'I Will' (the low point of the 'White Album', in my opinion), but it's still JUNK! 

Funny Paper said 

The sound of the guitar in Junk to me sounds like he didn't record until the strings were broken in and sounded "used" -- unlike his later uses of acoustic guitar in later albums, where it always sounds brand new and crisp.  I prefer the "used" sound, myself.

Don't discount the evolution of microphones during these times, the "later albums" utilized microphones with considerable expanded frequency ranges ('Early Days' would be an "extreme" example) which account for the bulk of the "brand new and crisp" fidelity (not to mention that the 'McCartney' version utilizes modest gear, on a Studer 4-Track I believe).  I agree on preferring the "broken in" sound, but much of the credit has to go to the evolving technology of the input devices.  Paul's playing hasn't really changed that much on the "later albums", but merely "sounds like it".  Apologies for expressing my personal opinion here on a public Beatles' forum, but thank God that this wasn't included on the 'White Album', it's one of those many McCartney tunes that sound, to my ears anyway, that Paul spent a minimal amount of time (9 minutes perhaps to keep John off his back?) while performing the 'Morning Ritual' (Talking to God on the Porcelain Phone, although perhaps not the case in Rishikesh!) because he wanted to take the rest of the day off.  Including this on the 'White Album' would've been like sandwiching 'World Without Love' between timeless classics such as 'No Reply' & 'I'm A Loser' on the great 'Beatles For Sale' LP for the sake of "Quantity over Quality", 'Junk' belongs alongside the other scraps found on the 'McCartney' album, absolutely the right call to leave it off the 'White Album'...:-)

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