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4 May 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together
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Actually, and I love The album, but I absolutely hate Here Today.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

4 May 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

Actually, and I love The album, but I absolutely hate Here Today.

I agree with you on this song. I feel that he sings it with very little emotion. I am not moved to tears after hearing it. 

I did like the Citi Field Live version where his voice cracks due to him get very emotional. He needs to do that more often.

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4 May 2014
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A threat that has half of the original content - yippee.a-hard-days-night-paul-3

Just finished listening to this as my ride thru solo Paul continues.

Overall the strengths rescue the album from the weaknesses and make it damn fine.

The Negatives

  • Some of the backing vocals distract from the songs: Tug Of WarTake It Away, I'll Give You A Ring (B-side of the Take It Away single). There is a monitor mix of Take It Away and without that horrible "in his hands"and "down, down" crap its a much better song.
  • Everything on What's That You're Doing except for the main vocals are dreadful; sounds like a crappy home demo on a cheap keyboard has been layered with vocals to try disguise the fact yet doesn't.
  • Ebony And Ivory is so damn cheesy and incredibly dated. It may have been a number one but it has not aged well. The b-side Rainclouds is a fine track and deserves more than being forgotten or overlooked.

The Positives

  • Here Today, Somebody Who Cares, Ballroom Dancing, The Pound Is Sinking and Wanderlust are excellent tracks, some of the highlights of Pauls catalogue, certainly his 80's period.
  • The lead vocals on Take It Away and Tug Of War are really strong making the songs very listenable. A bit of time spent on remixing them to omit the previously mentioned issues and they would be really good instead of just good. What's That You're Doing? also has great lead vocals by Paul and Stevie Wonder, someone should extract those and add them to a much better instrumental track as it would be well worth the effort.
  • Get It is a fun track that passes quickly as is Dress Me Up As A Robber, any longer and they would begin to grate on me. Be What You See passes so quickly that before you begin wondering why the hell its on the album its gone.

And it should be mentioned that Take It Away and Tug Of War on Wingspan differ slightly from the album cuts as they are the single mixes that omit a fade-in (the former) and opening sound effects (the latter).

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4 May 2014
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This is definitely in my top five Paul albums (including wings)

Tug Of War: really like the string work on this. crying out for a live performance starting with Paul alone with his acoustic guitar then the band comes in at the middle.

Take It Away: a forgotten gem from Pauls career no one really remembers. The end backing vocals remind me of 10CC's 'I'm Not In Love'

Somebody Who Cares: beautiful song and great guitar work (actually played by paul)

What's That Your Doing: weakest one on the album for me. It's a decent (mostly Stevie Wonder) song but its rather overstretched, like a lot of Pauls other material. 

Here Today: contrary to whats been said up-thread, i think the vocals are very good and emotive

Ballroom Dancing: silly lyrics but great music. Only Issues is the sequencing, coming right after Here Today it somewhat spoils the vibe (by i understand on vinyl this wouldn't have been an issue since its on the other side)

The Pound Is Sinking: probably my favorite from the album. Amazing vocals on the 'Hear Me Love' section 

Wanderlust: some obscure lyrics but otherwise another brilliant song

Get It: nice duet with the legend Carl Perkins. One of my Grandads favorites when he heard this album

Be What You See: this is only meant as a link between songs and i think it functions effectively

Dress Me Up As A Robber: again obscure lyrics but brilliant music. on side note i heard Paul performed this live just one for some charity event, Is there any video of this.

Ebony And Ivory: he could have chosen a better closer but a decent song what can get tiring sometimes. 

"We can do what we want, we can live as we choose"

10 July 2014
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In thinking about my line for the Lyric Last Letter Game, I thought about these lines from Bluebird

Fly away through the midnight air
As we head across the sea
And at last we will be free

And that made me break out singing Wanderlust.

Light out wanderlust
Head us out to sea

Take us from the dark
Out where we can see

Light out wanderlust
Help us to be free

Now my mind just went here.

"Turned Out"

I took a trip into the ocean
High emotion filled me with desire
I had to see what I was fighting
That kept inviting me to take it higher
Well looking back it didn't hurt me
It did something for my soul

I wonder why Paul thinks about going out into a large body of water to discover things and be set free?

EDIT: I put this in the NEW thread also.

10 July 2014
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Yip, especially if its as peaceful and entrancing as the song. 

Folk castigate the Off The Ground album but it has some of my favourite Paul songs ever. .

 but this is the wrong thread so i'll shut up.

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It's difficult to put into words, but it just all sounds a lot more clear. If I compare Here Today to the remixed version, the vocals stand out more, you can here the nuances better. Yet, at the same time, the instruments all sound more pronounced too. I can't put my finger on it, but the difference is very much audible. It's like everything went from 2D to 3D, if you get what I mean. 

 

Oh, and I seem to have read somewhere, I think it was something someone from MPL said on Facebook, that some of the vocals have been replaced. I don't know if that's true and in which songs, though.

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