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OK, I thought I'd start this after the discussion on the 'best-sounding albums' thread about who performed the solo on Lady Madonna (it was Eric Clapton in While My Guitar Gently Weeps).
Later in the year I'm going to put together a feature on Love, and I'd like to detail as many of the sources in each song as possible. I presume George 'n' Giles have never put together a definitive list – does anyone know of anything else out there?
If not, can we have a go here? I'll start at the start:
Because:
- Nature sounds from Across The Universe (WWF/Past Masters version) or Blackbird? I'm not even sure the sounds were originally on a Beatles song, though they're likely to have come from an Abbey Road effects tape.
- Vocals from Because.
- At the end comes the final piano chord from A Day In The Life, played backwards.
Anyone fancy picking up the baton? It might be useful to go through the album in sequence, rather than just firing out suggestions randomly, but I don't mind all that much.
1.53pm
13 November 2009
OfflineI found a website once that had comments by George and Giles Martin on all the songs although it didn't give much away. I can't seem to find it again right now.
I seem to remember that the bird sounds are from Across The Universe plus new bird sounds they taped just for Love to make the song sound "more British". I can't remember what the bird was, it might have been a blue jay.
Wikipedia gives information about the songs although not sure how reliable it is. The references it gives may be better as sources of information.
Thanks for that. Here's the source for the wood pigeon quote: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1562172,00.html
I just had a look at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…..les_album) – about a secret code in the album. That's quite intriguing. Maybe we can crack it here!
Wikipedia on the songs:
- "Because" – An interview in Entertainment Weekly revealed that the opening track includes the bird sounds used in the World Wildlife Fund version of "Across the Universe". In addition, a new recording of a Wood Pigeon was implemented "to make it more British," according to George Martin.
- "Get Back" – As reported, the track utilizes the opening guitar from "A Hard Day's Night", the drum and guitar solos from "The End", percussion from "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)", and the orchestral swell from "A Day in the Life".
- "I Want to Hold Your Hand" – An interview with George and Giles Martin stated that elements from both the studio recording and the Hollywood Bowl live performance were mixed to create this version.
- "Drive My Car"/"The Word"/"What You're Doing" – As reported, the medley features the guitar solo from "Taxman" and the horns section from "Savoy Truffle".
- "Gnik Nus" – As suggested in its title, the track contains the vocal arrangement of "Sun King" played in reverse.
- "Something" (with "Blue Jay Way" transition) – The track contains vocal elements from "Nowhere Man".
- "Strawberry Fields Forever" – A review of the album noted that this version builds from an acoustic demo. It includes the orchestral section from "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", the solo piano from "In My Life", the brass included in "Penny Lane", the cello and harpsichord arrangement from "Piggies" and the coda of "Hello, Goodbye".
- "Within You Without You"/"Tomorrow Never Knows" – This track combines the vocals from "Within You Without You" with the bass and drums from "Tomorrow Never Knows."
- "Octopus's Garden" – According to USA Today and PopMatters, this track contains the string arrangement from "Good Night", sound effects used in "Yellow Submarine" and elements from "Lovely Rita" and "Helter Skelter".
- "Lady Madonna" – The song includes the guitar riff from "Hey Bulldog", Eric Clapton's guitar solo from "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" and Billy Preston's organ solo from "I Want You (She's So Heavy)".
- "Here Comes the Sun" (with "The Inner Light" transition) – As mentioned by Giles Martin, the track includes backing vocals from "Oh! Darling" and a bass line from "I Want You (She's So Heavy)".
- "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" – A BBC article reported that George Martin chose to use an early version of the recording for the album and wrote a new orchestral backing for the track. This was also stated in the fifth chapter of The Beatles 'LOVE' Podcast.
2.10pm
13 November 2009
OfflineWood pigeon – that was it!
Even within those songs, I'm sure there are more hidden parts to them than mentioned. Octopus' Garden contained vocals from Yellow Submarine as well as sound effects. I've read multiple times that the end of Because is A Day In The Life orchestral stuff but I'm sure it's the chord played backwards – I played it backwards once and I thought "Hey! That's in Love!"
I'll do some research on the album and report back when I've got a substantial amount.
Get Back:
- Opening chord from A Hard Day's Night
- Drums from The End
- Crowd noise (?) mixed in with the orchestra from A Day In The Life
- Guitar chords from Get Back
- Guitar solo from The End
- Ends with orchestral climax from ADITL.
Have I missed anything? There's something odd going on behind McCartney's vocals. It sounds like crowd noise but I can't be sure.
2.25pm
13 November 2009
OfflineI don't think you missed anything besides the song Get Back itself. Plus it was shortened. Some of the crowd noises might be from Sgt. Pepper's.
Some links:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1562172,00.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ent…..159426.stm
http://www.norwegianwood.org/b…..ve2006.htm
The third one is the site I found a while back – it's a fan site, I'm not sure where they got the info from. The site has short info on all the Beatles songs.
I know what the code is, although I cheated and looked it up on the internet a while ago.
3.57pm
14 October 2009
Offline"I Want To Hold Your Hand" has always confused me as it was stated that it was the studio version overlaid onto the live Hollywood Bowl version, but how could it be as what we hear is, without question, the studio version (truncated). So my guess is they've just used the screaming kids in the background. Anyone else have ideas on this?
BTW – great thread to start Joe. I know I'm going to love this one (excuse the pun) as I have stated elsewhere that I think this album is terrific and the more I keep learning about it the better.
4.00pm
14 October 2009
OfflineJoe said:
Get Back:
- Opening chord from A Hard Day's Night
- Drums from The End
- Crowd noise (?) mixed in with the orchestra from A Day In The Life
- Guitar chords from Get Back
- Guitar solo from The End
- Ends with orchestral climax from ADITL.
Have I missed anything? There's something odd going on behind McCartney's vocals. It sounds like crowd noise but I can't be sure.
I can hear crowd noises too. Very discreet mind you…..
10.50pm
12 March 2010
OfflineI did a whole summary once but didn't save it, so here I go again from memory.
Only stuff not mentioned on Wiki (I identified Clapton without them, btw):
Glass onion
intro guitar chord from „Things we said today“
trumpet from Penny Lane
brass from “Magical Mystery Tour”
vocals from "Hello, goodbye"
BLue Jay way
sounds from "Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite"
Lucy in the sky with diamonds
in the chorus parts of that strange sound from “Baby you’re a rich man”
brass from "Sgt. Pepper's"
Octopus’s garden
“Vocals” from “Polythene Pam” (“great!”)
Lady Madonna
drums from “Why don’t we do it in the road”
Here comes the sun
sitar from “Within you without you” at the beginning
end of Come together/Dear Prudence
vocals from “Cry baby cry” (Paul’s bit at the end) with piano from “A day in the life”
between that and “Revolution” strings from Eleanor Rigby mixed with bass drum from
Revolution
All you
need is love
guitar
from “Ticket to ride”
vocals
from “Rain”
vocals
from “Sgt. Pepper’s”
I’m sure I missed something here, though…
10.52pm
12 March 2010
OfflineMcLerristarr said:
I've read multiple times that the end of Because is A Day In The Life orchestral stuff but I'm sure it's the chord played backwards – I played it backwards once and I thought "Hey! That's in Love!"
Well, Giles MArtin himself states in the liner notes that he thought: "That chord was a great way of ending Sgt. Peppers, let'S turn it around as a great beginning of Love!"
11.34pm
13 November 2009
Offlinepaulsbass said:
Well, Giles MArtin himself states in the liner notes that he thought: "That chord was a great way of ending Sgt. Peppers, let'S turn it around as a great beginning of Love!"
Well that clears it up then! I've never read the liner notes so I didn't realise. How much info does it give?
12.23am
13 November 2009
OfflineGlass Onion:
- Glass Onion (obviously) but with extended intro (more "Oh yeah's", "Hello, hello" from Hello Goodbye, "nothing is real" from Glass Onion) and only the second chorus (not sure how to break it up) plus longer ending strings
- Guitar from Things We Said Today (heard at the start and end of Things We Said Today)
- Brass (paulsbass reckons its Penny Lane and Magical Mystery Tour)
- Freaky echoey voices at the end (not sure where from – any ideas?)
Can't find any good lists on the internet. Although I did find out that they used Sibelius 4 to plan it so there you go…
Anyone else want to pick it up at Eleanor Rigby/Julia (Transition)?
12.53am
13 November 2009
OfflineMcLerristarr said:
Well that clears it up then! I've never read the liner notes so I didn't realise. How much info does it give?
Not a lot more. Giles Martin does mention that the AHDN chord was used to cover up the cut from The End's drum solo. Which is interesting.
mjb said:
"I Want To Hold Your Hand" has always confused me as it was stated that it was the studio version overlaid onto the live Hollywood Bowl version, but how could it be as what we hear is, without question, the studio version (truncated). So my guess is they've just used the screaming kids in the background. Anyone else have ideas on this?
Actually, that's what Sir George said they did in the liner. He wanted to make an allusion to Beatlemania and add a sizzling sound.
3.40am
13 November 2009
OfflineOk, it took me an hour, but I thought it would be a good idea to have a universal list to keep track of our findings. I've added some relevant quotes from the Martins and I have tried to credit the observations of forum members (plus a few of my own).
- Because – An interview in Entertainment Weekly revealed that the opening track includes the bird sounds used in the
World Wildlife Fund version of "Across the Universe". In addition, a new recording of a Wood Pigeon was implemented "to make it more British," according to George Martin.- Vocals from Because.
- At the end comes the final piano chord from A Day In The Life, played backwards. (Joe)
- Get Back – As reported, the track utilizes the opening guitar from "A Hard Day's Night", the drum and guitar solos from "The End", percussion from "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)", and the orchestral swell from "A Day in the
Life".- Opening chord from A Hard Day's Night
- Drums from The End
- Crowd noise (?) mixed in with the orchestra from A Day In The Life
- Guitar chords from Get Back
- Guitar solo from The End
- Ends with orchestral climax from ADITL. (Joe)
- Glass Onion
- Glass Onion (obviously) but with extended intro (more "Oh yeah's", "Hello, hello" from Hello Goodbye, "nothing is real" from Glass Onion) and only the second chorus (not sure how to break it up) plus longer ending strings
- Guitar from Things We Said Today (heard at the start and end of Things We Said Today)
- Brass (paulsbass reckons its Penny Lane and Magical Mystery Tour)
- Freaky echoey voices at the end (not sure where from – any ideas?) (McLerristarr)
- In Eleanor Rigby, the intro and bridge is "Ah, look at all the lonely
people". The "Ah" is what is drawn out in various places in Love. (McLerristarr/ paulbass)
- In Eleanor Rigby, the intro and bridge is "Ah, look at all the lonely
- Eleanor Rigby/Julia
- I Am the Walrus
- I Want to Hold Your Hand – An interview with George and Giles Martin stated that elements from both the studio recording and the Hollywood Bowl live performance were mixed to create this version.
- SIR GEORGE: "Actually, the front speakers [in the 5.1 mix] have the studio recording, and the rear speakers have the band performing at the Hollywood Bowl. They're in tune with each other, and we found a way to match them. We wanted to put across Beatlemania at some point. The crowd is like white noise… like something frying." a
- Drive My Car/ The Word/ What You're Doing – As reported, the medley features the guitar solo from "Taxman" and the horns section from "Savoy Truffle".
- Gnik Nus – As suggested in its title, the track contains the vocal arrangement of "Sun King" played in reverse.
- Something/Blue Jay Way – The track contains vocal elements from "Nowhere Man".
- SIR GEORGE: "''Something'' is a good example: Sometimes if you change just one thing, people really start listening in a new way. The guitars are taken off the front, and it really makes you hear the whole thing differently. These are not definitive versions, of course. But if we were taking anything off, we were careful to not remove any of the soul of what's there." a
- Paul McCartney’s bass line in “Something” emerges, with the rhythm guitar track removed, as a true counter-melody. d
- sounds from "Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite" (paulbass)
- Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! I Want You (She's So Heavy)/ Helter Skelter
- Help!
- Blackbird/ Yesterday
- Strawberry Fields Forever – A review of the album noted that this version builds from an acoustic demo. It includes the orchestral section from "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", the solo piano from "In My Life", the brass included in "Penny Lane", the cello and harpsichord arrangement from "Piggies" and the coda of "Hello, Goodbye".
- Within You Without You/ Tomorrow Never Knows – This track combines the vocals from "Within You Without You" with the bass and drums from "Tomorrow Never Knows."
- Also the sitar (and possibly other instruments) from Within You Without
You. It starts with the start of Tomorrow Never Knows and also uses
those weird noises from that song. It's also shorter than the original
Within You Without You. It ends with all sorts of weird stuff and
transitions into Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds. (McLerristarr)
- Also the sitar (and possibly other instruments) from Within You Without
- Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
- in the chorus parts of that strange sound from “Baby you’re a rich man” brass from "Sgt. Pepper's" (paulbass)
- Octopus's Garden/ Sun King – According to USA Today and PopMatters, this track contains the string arrangement from "Good Night", sound effects used in "Yellow Submarine" and elements from "Lovely Rita" and "Helter Skelter".
- (Giles) "A good example is “Octopus’s Garden,” which initially I’d tried with Ringo’s voice and the strings from “Glass
Onion.” It was great, but it sounded creepy. It sounded like he was about to murder someone." b - Vocals from “Polythene Pam” (“great!”) (paulbass)
- (Giles) "A good example is “Octopus’s Garden,” which initially I’d tried with Ringo’s voice and the strings from “Glass
- Lady Madonna – The song includes the guitar riff from "Hey Bulldog", Eric Clapton's guitar solo from "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" and Billy Preston's organ solo from "I Want You (She's So Heavy)".
- (Giles) "We wanted a dance number for the show and I put in “Lady Madonna.” We did that." c
- drums from “Why don’t we do it in the road” (paulbass)
- Here Comes the Sun/ The Inner Light –
As mentioned by Giles Martin, the track includes backing vocals from "Oh! Darling" and a bass line from I Want You (She's So Heavy). - Come Together/ Dear Prudence/ Cry Baby Cry
- (Giles) "I always keep the main vocal in the center of the speaker, and on occasions, background vocals round the back, like on “Come Together” I did that. In the main, it’s like 5.1 should be seeing a band you love, or hearing
the music you love, with reflections going on that envelope you, not being a novelty thing." c - vocals from “Cry baby cry” (Paul’s bit at the end)
- piano from “A day in the life” (paulbass)
- (Giles) "I always keep the main vocal in the center of the speaker, and on occasions, background vocals round the back, like on “Come Together” I did that. In the main, it’s like 5.1 should be seeing a band you love, or hearing
- Back in the U.S.S.R.
- Revolution
- While My
- Guitar Gently Weeps – A BBC article reported that George Martin chose to use an early version of the recording for the album and wrote a new orchestral backing for the track. This was also stated in the fifth chapter of The Beatles 'LOVE' Podcast.
- It wasn't his idea according to Giles
- (Giles) "It was amazing how he weaves around a song that changes tempo dramatically. You may not notice it. He speeds up and slows down. Just him and the guitar." c
- A Day in the Life
- Hey Jude
- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (reprise)
-
All You Need Is Love
- guitar from “Ticket to ride”
- vocals from “Rain”
- vocals from “Sgt. Pepper’s” (paulbass)
- vocals from their 1st Christmas program
- orchestra part of Good Night (skye)
Outside Sources
a.)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0…..72,00.html
b.)
http://magazine.wsj.com/hunter…..es-martin/
c.)
http://www.waves.com/Content.a…..px?id=3568
d.)
8.20am
13 November 2009
Offline8.28am
12 March 2010
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- Here Comes the Sun/ The Inner Light –
As mentioned by Giles Martin, the track includes backing vocals from "Oh! Darling" and a bass line from I Want You (She's So Heavy).
This song features the Indian rhythm track and on sitar line of "Within you , without you" ("We were talking") at the beginning.
Well done, btw!
8.34am
13 November 2009
Offlineskye said:
- Within You Without You/ Tomorrow Never Knows – This track combines the vocals from "Within You Without You" with the bass and drums from "Tomorrow Never Knows."
Also the sitar (and possibly other instruments) from Within You Without You. It starts with the start of Tomorrow Never Knows and also uses those weird noises from that song. It's also shorter than the original Within You Without You. It ends with all sorts of weird stuff and transitions into Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds.
8.37am
13 November 2009
Offlinepaulsbass said:
McLerristarr said:
OK, cool, thanks. Although I'm quite sure it's "ah" not "I".
Hihi, break down the "I" (means say it veeeeery slowly) and you'll notice it sounds as if starting with "a"!
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I suppose but I still thinks its "Ah" and not "I" said slowly. Lyrics sites agree with me as does my
(dad's) book of the complete Beatles lyrics.
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