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31 May 2011
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Have always been of the impression that LIBN was a Paul ego trip. Ringo, Olivia and Yoko wouldnt have put up too much hinderence as they knew it wasnt a big deal project, more a 'keep Paul happy' dealy.

 

I did prefer some of the tracks on LIBN before the 2009 remasters but now only really Across The Universe is the standout. The Spector version has John singing way too slow, sunding like he's half stoned/bored. Truth be told the best version is a bootleg mix, supposedly Glynn Johns with it being almost only John and guitar.

 

Get Back sounds absolutely idiotic without the coda and since it was on the original all Beatle approved version what was the point of cutting it?

Two of Us, For You Blue and Dig A Pony suffer from the missing random chatter. I love Maggie May and Dig It.

Dont Let Me Down is a pointless edit. I prefer it when John messes up as that was John when singing live, he nearly always messed up part of the song.

 

Overall too many pointless edits and overdubs defeat the original point. The best TLAWR is on Anthology 3, Paul should have left it there or gave us one of the original versions not some new concoction which only adds to the confusion.

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31 May 2011
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meanmistermustard said:

Get Back sounds absolutely idiotic without the coda and since it was on the original all Beatle approved version what was the point of cutting it?

Spector didn't have the coda either. LIBN has a few great versions, but Let It Be is still superior.

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1 June 2011
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The coda on the single was spliced on from a different take recorded on a different day. LIBN is actually the more authentic version, if you don't mind the rewriting of history.

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1 June 2011
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Joe said:

I used to prefer the fidelity of ...Naked, as the sound quality was much better. But since the remasters came out I'm not so sure. I generally dislike the tinkering that was done - it seems unnecessary, like McCartney was trying to win a 30-year-old grudge match. It also reminds me a little of how George Lucas can't resist messing around with the original Star Wars trilogy, not realising that people simply like it for what it is.

Personally, I'd have issued the warts-and-all Glyn Johns recordings, but not called it Let It Be... Naked, which was a rubbish title. Call it Get Back, have the "with Let It Be and 11 other songs" message on the cover, and use the photo that eventually appeared on the Blue 67-70 compilation. That would have done nicely, thanks.

As for The Long And Boring Song, it was odd of Spector to select that recording, as it's full of mistakes. Lennon's bass guitar, in particular, is all over the place. The Beatles recorded it loads of times in January 1969, and he could surely have found a better version. Isn't the theory that he plastered it with strings to mask the shortcomings of the backing track?

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1 June 2011
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Every time this thread's revived I've got something new to add! Although I still stand by Spector's orchestrations for the most part, I've got to take issue with some of his decisions, specifically the stuff he mixed out, like a certain Billy Preston keyboard part and the acoustic guitar in "For You Blue" - even though I never noticed it missing until Elsewhere Man pointed it out.

Also, regarding meanMr.m's opinion on "Don't Let Me Down": I'd have actually preferred to hear an alternate edit with BOTH of John's lyrical mistakes left intact!.

Actually, now that I think of it, I wish there was a deliberately erratic 2-record version of Let It Be / Get Back arranged around a rough conceptual template:

- One side documenting the bulk of the rooftop show, with the five complete songs represented in their superior takes (except maybe that sabotaged "Don't Let Me Down") and maybe the aborted "God Save The Queen" and the best of the ad-libs.)

- One side consisting of the Apple Studio Performance plus "For You Blue", "I Me Mine" and the studio "Get Back"/"Don't Let Me Down" single.

- One side with "The Ballad of John & Yoko/Old Brown Shoe" (even though it's not from the sessions), "Maggie Mae" and the best of whatever other covers they did.

- And one "controversial" side consisting of the full-length "Dig It" and that extended feedback/Yoko freakout

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Von Bontee said:

- And one "controversial" side consisting of the full-length "Dig It" and that extended feedback/Yoko freakout

*pukes at the thought*

*pukes more*

*screams*

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mr. Sun king coming together said:

Von Bontee said:

- And one "controversial" side consisting of the full-length "Dig It" and that extended feedback/Yoko freakout

*pukes at the thought*

*pukes more*

*screams*

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*9*

You know, Sun king, that's going to be included in the "controversial" side.... 

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2 June 2011
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Yeah, that would certainly most people's reaction (not me tho! You KNOW I'd dig it!), but I can't help it, I just love this band, and the IDEA that they'd even consider attempting something like still makes me shake my head in admiration. And I'm thinking that the documentary aspect of the album would justify its inclusion, however unpleasant a listening experience, in the same way that the bad-vibes tension-filled scenes in the movie were justified, if not downright necessary. Or something like that...

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2 June 2011
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I actually wouldn't mind. I just played on my "avant Garde A clue," reputation.

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3 June 2011
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Von bontee. What's the difference between you and vonbontee????

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3 June 2011
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I personally much prefer every song on the original Let It Be to any of the ones on LIBN. I like the more rawness of the original and how the sound quality isn't perfect but you can hear slightly what's going on in the background. One reason I love the Anthology versions is because you can hear them talking and conversing about the songs, which kind of happens in the original album. And I don't really enjoy the unSpectorized version of The Long And Winding Road. In actuality it was a pain for me to listen to. The stripped version feels like it has no emotion, all the passion and what I felt power of the song left in that version. So I think I'm just going to stick to the original and never listen to the LIBN versions again. And the album just felt like one big ego trip of Paul for me. I really hate when he does that, so it wasn't very enjoyable.

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3 June 2011
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McLennonson said:

Von Bontee. What's the difference between you and vonbontee?

Easy. Von Bontee's signature is "You won't see me nowhere, man, I'm looking through you!" and his avatar is wearing a T-shirt on an olive background, while vonbontee's signature is "Sleeps in a hole in the road in Blackburn, Lancashire where the rain gets in" and his avatar is wearing a shirt-n-tie and a jacket on a blue background. 

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3 June 2011
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vonbontee is cool, if I had a daughter she could bring him home. Von Bontee, on the other hand, is an insufferable fool.

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4 June 2011
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Actually both are the same person.. aren't they?

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I prefer Let It Be...Naked, but that's probably because that's the version I'm used to hearing.

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mithveaen said:

Actually both are the same person.. aren't they?

Yes, I was just joking.

I prefer the "Naked" mixes of The Long And Winding Road, Let It Be and I Me Mine. I also prefer Don't Let Me Down to Dig It and Maggie Mae. I don't mind either ATU version, and I can't tell much difference between the others.

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15 July 2011
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we need polls on our forums ;p

 

its gotta be the naked version though. simply for dont let me down... a-hard-days-night-paul-1

16 July 2011
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Ph.D. said:

I prefer Let It Be...Naked, but that's probably because that's the version I'm used to hearing.

I loaded the 'Let It Be' Album on my mp3, but it wouldn't show up, so I prefer Naked.apple01george-martin

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The original "Spectorized" LET IT BE was the second record album I ever bought, wayyyy back in 1970 when I was a teen, so I've always been pretty fond of it, despite the shellacking it's gotten from most critics (it came with a great big thick glossy book of photos and conversation transcriptions from the movie too, which I still look at from time to time).   And I still think it's a pretty good sounding record.   When I bought LET IT BE..NAKED, I found myself missing the little bits of chat that were sandwiched in between the cuts on the original.  All of these elements were hived off and put on a separate disk, the "Fly on the Wall" disk, which, let's face it, most of us won't listen to more than once or twice a decade — kind of like the "Apple Jam" on George's ALL THINGS MUST PASS.   

I also prefer Spector's song order, with the album starting off with John's "I dig a pygmy" ad-lib, followed by one of McCartney's great songs, "Two of Us".   As for "Across The Universe", I actually like Spector's orchestral touch on this track, although the tempo is better on NAKED.  And I definitely prefer the Spectorized version of "I Me Mine".   On both albums, the song was edited to lengthen it out, but Spector's edit works better, and the swirling orchestration really fits in well with the mood of the song.   

Spector's best touch is at the end of the album, when he dubs the sounds of the Beatles tuning up for "Get Back", including John's hilarious "Sweet Loretta Fart" ad-lib, onto the beginning of the song itself, making it sound like a rooftop performance (even though it wasn't).   And I prefer George's guitar solo on the title song, "Let It Be", on the Spector version. 

True, Spector went overboard on "The Long & Winding Road" (which is a pretty syrupy song anyway), but then so did George Martin on "Good Night" (on "The White Album").    

NAKED's finest moments are probably on "The One After 909" and "For You Blue", where the playing is really crisp sounding, and with the addition of "Don't Let Me Down".  I've never understood why that song wasn't on the original LET IT BE — perhaps because of Allen Klein's deal with Capitol Records, which had the song on their Hey Jude compilation released around the same time. 

So, overall, while NAKED is worth owning, I still think "Spector" is the better version.   

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Joe said:

The coda on the single was spliced on from a different take recorded on a different day. LIBN is actually the more authentic version, if you don't mind the rewriting of history.

But Get Back was always recorded with the coda as being the end of the song, throughout the Get Back/Let It Be sessions, even tho Mr Spector decided to lop it off, adding Johns comment instead. LIBN has enough edits (Dig A Pony, I Me Mine, Let It Be, Don't Let Me Down) to justify it, even if they had included the full coda with the reprise to make it slightly different.

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