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Get Back, Let It Be or Let It Be... Naked
12 June 2012
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Which of the three albums do you prefer (with get back i mean the glyn johns mixes (his four compilations, Anthology 3)
I prefer Let It Be… Naked because it sounds the most professionell and it's not overproduced
The others are the same in my ranking because i like Anthology 3 very much. One thing i never understood about spectors mixes. The ballads sound professionell with orchestra and errors corected…. and the rock songs are still with spoken words and so to keep the live sound. Either professionell (naked) or the live sound (get back) but one half professionell and the other half live doesn't work for me, that's the one thing i hate most about spector's let it be production (more than the overproducing)

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12 June 2012
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Let It Be has never struck me as being anything but another beatles album, i dont get the negative gloomy feel that others do when listening to it so Spector should be praised but he loses it for his production overkill on Across The Universe and The Long And Winding Road. Its probably because im so used to it and got used to it having no idea how it was put together. I like the odd random chat and the weird cuts a lot (Dig It & Maggie Mae) & Two of Us sounds wrong without the intro, i dont play the Naked remix.

 

As for the Johns albums they are all pretty much the same to me, i played the 3rd a lot for a while but havent played any of them recently. Nowadays i find it to be a bit too rough and unkept.

 

All i would do to get my definitive version would replace Spector's Across The Universe with Glyn Johns remix, substitute The Long And Winding Road for the basic track released on Anthology 3 and add Dont Let Me Down. With the 2009 remastering i dont play LIBN often, no need.

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12 June 2012
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I've never heard any Glyn Johns mixes, apart from any on Anthology 3.

I like the rooftop concert recordings and I have no issue with Spector's ATU, but I prefer the LITN versions of Let It Be and TLAWR, as well as stripped down versions of I Me Mine.

This is my favourite version ("official" version unless stated):

Get Back (single)
One After 909
Alll Things Must Pass (anthology)
Across The Universe
I've Got A Feeling
Old Brown Shoe (anthology)
Two Of Us (anthology)
I Me Mine (anthology)
Medley: Rip It Up /Shake Rattle and Roll /Blue Suede Shoes
Octopus's Garden (anthology)
Not Guilty (anthology)
Let It Be (Naked)
Dig A Pony
The Long And Winding Road (naked)

Octopus' Garden included so Ringo had a song, Not Guilty included because it was better than half the tripe worked on in that period, Junk excluded because it is so obviously unfinished.

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13 June 2012
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My favorite versions are these:
Get Back (single)
Dig A Pony (Naked)
For You Blue (Naked)
The Long And Winding Road (naked)
Two of Us (official: Anthology 3, bootleg: get back)
I've Got A Feeling (naked)
One After 909 (Anthology 1)
Don't Let Me Down (single and naked are equally good)
I Me Mine (Anthology 3)
Across The Universe (Anthology 2)
Let It Be (single)

Edit: My real favourite let it be version is my (the George T. Simpson Mix) on youtube

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19 January 2013
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I like the entire Naked album better.  Although, I do miss the "chatter" between songs..

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19 January 2013
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I haven't heard Get Back in its entirety. Although I prefer Let It Be Naked over the one mixed by Spector. Likewise I miss the chatter in between tracks.

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19 April 2013
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I prefer Spector's "Let it Be."  I don't understand why people like the Glyn Johns version. I have a friend who is obsessed with Get Back and I don't know why.  "Let it Be…Naked" just seems too sterile without all the funny comments in between.  And I do like the Spector string arrangements.

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19 April 2013
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I prefer Get Back better than the rest. But what I would prefer is a nice sloppy album with a bunch of the the stuff that wasn't realeased on any of these albums.

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15 May 2013
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I just noticed that "Let it Be" has a strong John/George presence on the first 5 tracks, and Let It Be…Naked has more Paul.  I bet it's because Paul wanted to hear more Paul.

…and I just noticed that he deleted Maggie Mae and Dig It, two John tracks (and all of John's witty comments).  It should be called "Let it Be…Paul."

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16 May 2013
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^

Ghehehe.

 

Yeah I like Spector string arrangements too. I never really understood what was wrong with them.

16 May 2013
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Linde said
^

Ghehehe.

 

Yeah I like Spector string arrangements too. I never really understood what was wrong with them.

I like the string arrangements, too. There is nothing wrong with them, it's just the fact that the goal of Let It Be was to have a raw, no overdubs, album like Please Please Me. But Phil Spector changed that.

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16 May 2013
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Not only do I dislike his over the top string and choral arrangements and overdubs, what ruins it for me completely are the cutesy effects he adds, like the echo on Ringo's hi-hat and toms on the album version of Let it Be. Awful!a-hard-days-night-ringo-14yoko-ono_01

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16 May 2013
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The point of LIBN was to make the album that they originally intended to make. No overdubs, no string arrangements, certainly no choirs.. That's why it was made, not because there was anything wrong with LIB. I don't think Paul was trying to make himself more predominant on it at all. I know you really love John, ExText, but do you really think that that's fair?

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16 May 2013
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fabfouremily said
The point of LIBN was to make the album that they originally intended to make. No overdubs, no string arrangements, certainly no choirs.. That's why it was made, not because there was anything wrong with LIB. I don't think Paul was trying to make himself more predominant on it at all. I know you really love John, ExText, but do you really think that that's fair?

Paul didn't want to make himself more prominent…he wanted to strip all the bullshit that Phil Spector added to LIB away! However, the fact that they grafted multiple tracks together to make several of the tracks means that, while I like LIBN, I still can't love it. I prefer to either listen to the non-Spector produced Get Back and Let it Be singles and the original album, or bootlegs of the Get Back sessions and Glyn Johns' Get Back (album) acetates.

 

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16 May 2013
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fabfouremily said
The point of LIBN was to make the album that they originally intended to make. No overdubs, no string arrangements, certainly no choirs.. That's why it was made, not because there was anything wrong with LIB. I don't think Paul was trying to make himself more predominant on it at all. I know you really love John, ExText, but do you really think that that's fair?

I think the track order of Let It Be probably shows Spector's preference (and mine) for John and George over Paul.  Spector went on to produce albums for John and George, but not Paul. The majority of Paul tracks are on side B of Let it Be.  On Let It Be Naked, Paul put most of his tracks on the first half, and he also gave himself the album opener and closer.

This is consistent with his behavior in the later Beatles period of giving himself the A side and John the B side of singles.  Also, while John left the Beatles first, Paul had to be the first one to announce to the media that he left, which also shows his preference for the limelight and being first.  And in the Let it Be film, you can kind of see how Paul is enjoying being the center of attention and John is just like "Yeah, whatever."

It has nothing to do with my preference for John, although my preference for John explains why I prefer the track order on Let it Be.

I also enjoy Paul's music and have recently acquired many of his albums.

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17 May 2013
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You've got a LOT to read and learn about the inner workings of the band during that period. John was not blameless by any stretch and what you're reciting is right out of the John disciples handbook (I'm a huge John fan although I'm a bigger Paul fan but I just get irked when people buy into all of the cliches without getting at the actual truth behind it). Paul wasn't blameless but he was not the evil twat he's been made out to be in that whole period. 

 

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17 May 2013
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I think the track order of Let It Be probably shows Spector's preference (and mine) for John and George over Paul.  Spector went on to produce albums for John and George, but not Paul. The majority of Paul tracks are on side B of Let it Be.  On Let It Be Naked, Paul put most of his tracks on the first half, and he also gave himself the album opener and closer.

Both John and George soured on Phil quickly (by '72 or so) and regretted working with him. 

This is consistent with his behavior in the later Beatles period of giving himself the A side and John the B side of singles.  

Paul didn't "give" John the B-sides. Truth is John wasn't writing very much during that period and what he was writing was overall quite weak. He was more into Yoko and heroin than the band. Paul, George, and Ringo all vetoed much of his work at this time(all three HATED Revolution 9, What's The New Mary Jane, and Cold Turkey when he wanted to release it as a Beatles single). John was also quite complimentary for Paul helping him with songs like Ballad of John and Yoko, Don't Let Me Down, etc. 

Also, while John left the Beatles first, Paul had to be the first one to announce to the media that he left, which also shows his preference for the limelight and being first.  

John admitted he was too much of a wimp to do it first…he was scared of the public reaction. And Paul kind of got duped into it by Peter Brown…that questionnaire was meant for press people only, who duly leaked it into the papers. He's regretted it ever since. 

And in the Let it Be film, you can kind of see how Paul is enjoying being the center of attention and John is just like "Yeah, whatever."

Again, he was strung out on heroin and obsessing over Yoko. George, who HATED Paul during this period, was so angry at John for being disinterested that they had a huge argument and it contributed to him walking out. 

It has nothing to do with my preference for John, although my preference for John explains why I prefer the track order on Let it Be.

Sure, and Ringo was the best songwriter in the band, too!

 

this isn't an attack post but I get really irritated when people go by the Cliff's Notes version of Beatles history. These are all FACTS that are readily available if you look for them. 

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17 May 2013
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But one thing you have to accept, DrBeatle, is that three Beatles believed that Spector saved the tapes, and only one thought he sabotaged them. There is lots to pull all the main protagonists up on during that period for how they were dealing with each other, but you cannot ignore the fact that three of the four were happy enough with the album, and the fourth was appalled, and that when he led a reconstruction of the album (Naked), he stripped away lots of the spirit of the original and ended up with an album that was more McCartney weighted than the original. I would have more respect for Paul had he gone back to a combination of Glyn Johns' two versions, and allowed the release of the film. I love Paul, but I think Paul has lots of issues around the Get Back sessions, and how he looks during them.

EDIT: This is a reply to the first of DrBeatle's posts above. I will probably take on his second, but will need to think on it to give it the considered response it deserves. I was typing the above while he was typing his.

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Dr. Beatle,

I believe it was later than '72, during the Rock and Roll Sessions, when Spector's behavior became erratic and violent and he stole the tapes.  But he went on to work with Yoko after John's death, I believe in 1986, on two posthumous John Lennon albums.

Also, not all of the John b-sides are weak.  I Am The Walrus, Revolution and Rain are all John b-sides with a Paul a-side.  Of course, Paul didn't get every a-side, and I'm not really counting, but I do think it was a trend.

But, as you say, I have a lot more to read about The Beatles.

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17 May 2013
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mja6758 said
But one thing you have to accept, DrBeatle, is that three Beatles believed that Spector saved the tapes, and only one thought he sabotaged them. There is lots to pull all the main protagonists up on during that period for how they were dealing with each other, but you cannot ignore the fact that three of the four were happy enough with the album, and the fourth was appalled, and that when he led a reconstruction of the album (Naked), he stripped away lots of the spirit of the original and ended up with an album that was more McCartney weighted than the original. I would have more respect for Paul had he gone back to a combination of Glyn Johns' two versions, and allowed the release of the film. I love Paul, but I think Paul has lots of issues around the Get Back sessions, and how he looks during them.

Agree, if they hadn't been satisfied with it, it wouldn't have been released the way it is. It's not like Spector ruined a perfect album and everyone hated it.

About the Let it be film: You can't deny it's very much centered around Paul. Doesn't matter for what reason, but it IS very Paulcentric. John was very disinterested in anything that was happening to the Beatles (and in general) at the time. There are plenty of interviews in which he said he wanted to leave the band much earlier.

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